2019 Offseason Thread

[Shanemansj13]

When was the last time the Spurs missed the playoffs? GS has a good chance at the 8th seed only. The reason I don't see them making the playoffs is Curry and Draymond are burnt out from playing in 5 consecutive finals.

I'm glad you can predict the future...ohh wait we already know you can't.

KAWHI BACK TO TORONTO ON A 2 YEAR DEAL!!! I HAVE CLOSE SAUCES!!!

 

[Heatles84]

A serious question for anyone who thinks he'd refuse to go to Cleveland (or at least would not want to go).....why would Detroit be OK but not Cleveland?

Because Detroit at least is a playoff team.

 

[Wamu]

Never?

What if the NBA still exists in the year 4837?

They'll be playing hoops on Mars by then. Because the human race will completely fuck this planet up well before then.

 

[Black Adam]

Are you really comparing the Cavs franchise to Lakers, and seeing more hope, in the future with the Cavs?

You literally are a great troll or insane.

I'M going with the latter ...

CLEARLY the hatred and jealousy the insipid little tripe is feeling is causing blood vessels to pop in his point head...

#rubberroomready

 

[Wamu]

Because Detroit at least is a playoff team.

 

[Wamu]

I'm glad you can predict the future...ohh wait we already know you can't.

KAWHI BACK TO TORONTO ON A 2 YEAR DEAL!!! I HAVE CLOSE SAUCES!!!

close sauces

 

[dtgold88]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap...rs-2018/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ffbfd89b386b

The Top 100 players for
the 2018-19 NBA season



Comments

Post national NBA writer Tim Bontemps surveyed the NBA and ranked his top 100 players according to their overall talent level heading into the new season. Though it’s a new season, players aren’t starting from scratch. We’ve included a trend line to denote whether a player is on the upswing of his career, having jumped five or more spots from last season, starting to decline, having dropped five or more spots from last season, or expected to stay relatively consistent to previous performance by remaining within five spots of where they were last season. See how they stack up.


So. Westbrook 8, Butler 13, Richardson 76.

Yep. Terrible job by Riley if this happens.


S.I. had them Butler 10, Westbrook 7, Richardson 71.

Am I missing something? Westbrook not a member of Heat as of now and Richardson is gone. I get you said if, but can every team play that game ("if they get (pick elite player)"

 

[tlance]

how much you want to bet the Clippers win more titles in the next 10 years than the Lakers?

Dr. Buss aint coming back there slugger. You are left with Jeanie who thinks having Linda Rambis heavily involved is a good idea, and thinks Pelinka knows what he is doing.

Good ownership/management is crucial in the NBA. The Cavs are certainly not the Spurs---- but THANK GOD they are certainly not the Lakers either.

Actually, that is probably less true than ever before.

Based on what is happening in LA and the fact that KD agreed to sign in Brooklyn without ever talking to team officials, I would say ownership is less important than it has ever been before, at least if have a big market.

But then there is Dolan.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

Am I missing something? Westbrook not a member of Heat as of now and Richardson is gone. I get you said if, but can every team play that game ("if they get (pick elite player)"

Ummm,
Yes I did say IF, as far as Westbrook, and Richardson was part of Butler trade which is completed.

Do you just look to start drama for no reason? Everyday?

 

[Black Adam]

What's the cut-off age for being old these days? My sons call me old man all the time. Shit I'm only in my mid 40's. I'll tell ya I don't know where my boys picked that kinda sarcasm up from.

ain't 95 the new 20, or some BS like that...?

 

[tlance]

A serious question for anyone who thinks he'd refuse to go to Cleveland (or at least would not want to go).....why would Detroit be OK but not Cleveland?

1) Blake >>>>> Kevin Love
2) Drummond
3) Detroit is one of the top 10 markets in terms of size, Cleveland is on the smaller side
4) Detroit has a better team

 

[WiggyRuss]

A. use your brain. In 1992 when Shaq left Orlando, Orlando could not even afford to pay Shaq the contract he got. Now that is not even an issue. The CBA, salary cap, national TV, has totally transformed the league (not surprised this is over your head).

B. The Lakers and Knicks sucked balls and have not won anything for years. The two biggest markets in the league, 2 of its "marquis" franchises, have done nothing. The Lakers- like plenty of other franchises, bottomed out for years and are now rising again. This is opposed to the rest of their history.

C. The ownership/management thing is absolutely true. The Buss children, like many products of nepotism, really have shown that they are clueless thus far.

D. I mean was your brain deprived of oxygen as a child for a long period of time? At one point if you lived in Dallas, you likely wouldnt even see ONE Pistons game on national TV the entire year. Now you can see every single game of every single team. the Cavs had the most national tv games for a while. That NEVER EVER would have happened in the early history of the NBA.

E. Marketing speaks for itself obviously. When Cleveland and Orlando- two of the smaller markets in the NBA have the 2 biggest marketers in the game, it is not your father's NBA anymore. You can be in ANY city and be huge now- when that simply was not the case years ago.

F. Revenue sharing. Bird Rights. Designated player extensions that can only be given to players you draft. Hard cap for sign and trades. Draft pick trade restrictions. All of these things, in tandem have altered the competitive balance from being more of a free market- to more restrictive.

G. The NBA used to be a business where families owned most of the teams- and those families businesses were the teams. Whether that was the Miller's in Utah or the Pollin's in Washington or Buss' in Los Angeles. The wealth of the owners was in the team that they owned. Now teams are owned by guys that were super-successful in other businesses and buy their team is an expensive toy/plaything- like a Ballmer or Arison or DeVos or Allen or Gilbert or Gore or Lacob, etc.. These guys own BILLION dollar franchises--- and that billion dollar franchise does not even represent 20% of their net worth. Basketball expenditures are no longer limited by a team's revenues. They are limited to how competitive an owner wants to be (with some common sense restrictions of course).



all of that adds up to how the Lakers and Knicks can suck for years on end, and the league still thrives. The advantages those teams once enjoyed have been thoroughly mitigated.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Actually, that is probably less true than ever before.

Based on what is happening in LA and the fact that KD agreed to sign in Brooklyn without ever talking to team officials, I would say ownership is less important than it has ever been before, at least if have a big market.

But then there is Dolan.

if you really think that Durant didnt talk to management before hand i dont know what to tell you other than you have finally gone full retard.

I bet the Nets and Jordan/Kyrie/Durant negotiated the fact that they would each take less than the max to allow Jordan to sign in less than 5 minutes. That makes sense. lol....holy shit man are you that naive or just being an idiot?

 

[bksballer89]

 

[dtgold88]

It's also absurd to bid against yourself.

You guys keep talking Whiteside contract, but the Heat HAD to make a quick decision there because numerous teams had or would have offered a max.

Right now, what's the hurry?

who said anything about a hurry? Just said if you really want RW and OKC says Herro or no deal then silly not to include Herro.

 

[Wamu]

ain't 95 the new 20, or some BS like that...?

Not sure. It seems like the cut-off age for being old is changing all the time. All I know is I'm much happier closer to 50 than I was in my 20's or 30's.

 

[dtgold88]

Yet Wiggy thinks they could have him in second if they offered Sexton as part of a package. LOL.

Why is it assumed Detroit is in the mix then? You thinking RW has asked to go there?

 

[bksballer89]

Why is it assumed Detroit is in the mix then? You thinking RW has asked to go there?

star power

 

[Bart]

Spurs could be better.

Twolves haven't proved anything.
Kings need to make that next step.
Thunder out.
Mavs are still very young and also need to make that next step.

Worst case the Warriors struggle and get a #8 unless a team emerges like the Kings or Mavs.

You make one mistake as a newbie on this board and you never hear the end of it...sheesh

 

[dtgold88]

Yeah it's totally different overpay guys to get a 5-8 seed then overpaying guys bc you are way over the cap in title contention. Lose TT and you probably don't win a ship tbh...but you lose him for nothing so you overpay him.
Whiteside wasn't needed. Even if he became a beast at 20 and 10 you aren't a title contender with that current roster they couldn't add to...unless a significant trade like they just made.

Exactly! And being over the cap if they don't sign TT or JR they cannot get anyone close to their talent....and would have been ripped for letting them go.