2018 NBA offseason

[trojanfan12]

Ball, Kuzma, Deng's corpse so salaries match, and a future 1st rounder

Love Dame...but I hate including Kuzma.

Probably have to do it though.

Better him than Ingram.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Got my 2nd camshaft sensor replaced on my Merc in the last 3 weeks. Let''s hope that fixes it.

Going To Jeff's Place this weekend...

 

[LAD]

Not when you don't trust the team you play for and the relationship is irreparably broken it isn't.

The Spurs have done this to themselves.



I believe that there was a point where he was healthy enough and under normal circumstances, he would have returned. However, the Spurs had already thrown him under the bus and he was already done with them by the time he reached that point.

Yea maybe so, but unfortunately for him he signed a contract that apparently doesn't allow him to "sit out" if he is upset with the FO, his coach or his teammates.

Is it really worth ruining your rep within the league & possibly affecting your future deals? I just find it hard to believe that a franchise doctor would risk the overall health of a player they planned a future with. It's even harder to believe that franchise would be SA.

 

[LAD]

Ball, Kuzma, Deng's corpse so salaries match, and a future 1st rounder

That's a pretty nice deal for Portland if true...they might want to pull the trigger on that one there.

 

[trojanfan12]

Yea maybe so, but unfortunately for him he signed a contract that apparently doesn't allow him to "sit out" if he is upset with the FO, his coach or his teammates.

Is it really worth ruining your rep within the league & possibly affecting your future deals? I just find it hard to believe that a franchise doctor would risk the overall health of a player they planned a future with. It's even harder to believe that franchise would be SA.

I think both sides have damaged their reputations.

I don't find it hard to believe that a franchise doctor would risk the overall health of a player at all.

The team doctor works for the team. It's in the best interests of the team to get him back on the court asap.

His own doctors are the one's that are going to be most concerned about his overall health.

There were 2 sets of doctors operating at cross purposes. That's why I think he likely could have returned at some point (remember the speculation that he would play in the playoffs?).

But by that time, the relationship was already broken because of the Spurs shitting on him publicly.

 

[DJ Fieri]

That's a pretty nice deal for Portland if true...they might want to pull the trigger on that one there.

They get a PG and SF/PF.....Deng's corpse is just to make salaries match but he might actually play some for them.

 

[DJ Fieri]

I think both sides have damaged their reputations.

I don't find it hard to believe that a franchise doctor would risk the overall health of a player at all.

The team doctor works for the team. It's in the best interests of the team to get him back on the court asap.

His own doctors are the one's that are going to be most concerned about his overall health.

There were 2 sets of doctors operating at cross purposes. That's why I think he likely could have returned at some point (remember the speculation that he would play in the playoffs?).

But by that time, the relationship was already broken because of the Spurs shitting on him publicly.

IT says hi & hold my beer.

His career may never be the same.

 

[LAD]

I think both sides have damaged their reputations.

I don't find it hard to believe that a franchise doctor would risk the overall health of a player at all.

The team doctor works for the team. It's in the best interests of the team to get him back on the court asap.

His own doctors are the one's that are going to be most concerned about his overall health.

There were 2 sets of doctors operating at cross purposes. That's why I think he likely could have returned at some point (remember the speculation that he would play in the playoffs?).

But by that time, the relationship was already broken because of the Spurs shitting on him publicly.

What you're saying all makes sense. But I just don't believe that a franchise would risk his health knowing they are planning/hoping to keep him long into the future. Why would they ruin their own investment?

 

[LAD]

They get a PG and SF/PF.....Deng's corpse is just to make salaries match but he might actually play some for them.

Of course - I don't know that any team would be itching to trade for deng lol

but I think both Ball & Kuzma would be good fits in Portland.

 

[trojanfan12]

What you're saying all makes sense. But I just don't believe that a franchise would risk his health knowing they are planning/hoping to keep him long into the future. Why would they ruin their own investment?

Because sports is a "right now" business. Especially when you are in the Spurs position and have a team that can contend right now.

They know there are no guarantees. If they don't get a player back asap, they could miss a window for a potential title.

What if the player suffers a career altering injury the following season? Or leaves via FA? Then they've missed a title opportunity.

This goes for any team, any player, any age.

The Lakers let Ingram and Ball sit out a combined 53 games last year. They could get away with it because last season was about development, not winning.

But you can bet, if the Lakers somehow found themselves in the playoff hunt, they'd have missed fewer games.

 

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[shopson67]

Shamet was a 1st rd pick.
Shake was a 2nd rd pick.

Shake isn't even part of the 17....he would be #18 (not signed yet).

 

[shopson67]

tahts what i was going to say

expiring contracts mean nothing unless you want to take on salry and it sure seems like they want to preserve their salary cap space

though- if its not Kawhi - which it may be- who is it?

i highly doubt its irving or butler. maybe klay if he leaves?

One rumored guy is Dame. AD is none too happy to lose Boogie and Rondo either. Continued losing (or winning only to a point) will always shake some unhappy players into wanting out (not that Dame wants out yet, but Portland has definitely plateaued).

 

[shopson67]

IT says hi & hold my beer.

His career may never be the same.

IT's problems go beyond his injury. The Celtics weren't going to max him out regardless of that injury; it just helped them save face (and Kyrie's tantrum gave them an easy out). You can't spend that much cap space on a miniature scorer that is an absolutely awful defender. No matter how good offensively he may be, he will always be a wash altogether at best.

Just like Boogie, his injury wasn't the only issue at hand when trying to get a contract.