2018-2019 NBA Regular Season Thread

[DJ Fieri]

The Wiz are 6-4 in their last 10....things settling down there?

 

[DJ Fieri]

2021. They have their own first round pick the next 2 seasons which is good especially if they're bad enough to get a top 10 pick in both years.

And by 2021 that pick probably won't be as valuable as it looks right now. A lot can change between now and then as Wiggy knows with his Cavs last season and this.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Lol @ ignoring Luke's plays.

But, no surprise here.

He is essentially a coach on the floor.

He has earned the right to have a longer leash.

I mean- the people that thought the Lakers were going to run a Golden State style system and LeBron was going to play off the ball were crazy.

Its LeBron. He is going to have the ball in his hands at the top of the key and direct traffic and call the plays and do what he wants to do. Thats what it means to have LeBron James on your team. 98% of it is positive but there are also certain things you have to live with- one of them being is that it LeBron's show.

 

[trojanfan12]

QB- the Browns had Kizor, Hogan and Kessler- AWFUL- not even 1 win among all 3 of them- all are terrible

Hey...you watch your dirty whore mouth about Kessler...lol

Seriously though, I liked Kessler at USC, but knew he was never going to be anything but a decent backup in the NFL. If he has to do anything more than the occasional spot start...you're in trouble at that position.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Hey...you watch your dirty whore mouth about Kessler...lol

Seriously though, I liked Kessler at USC, but knew he was never going to be anything but a decent backup in the NFL. If he has to do anything more than the occasional spot start...you're in trouble at that position.

you guys are probably begging for the days of Kessler and Darnold....

USC at least hung in there vs. ND the other day.....i was hoping they might pull off the upset to help my Buckeyes reach the playoff- but not to be

what do you thin kthe issue is there?

I still think USC has the biggest name/biggest draw west of the Rockies in College football....esep. with the demise of Oregon.

Though STanford has been solid off and on as well.

USC shouldnt be a bad team.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

I mean- the people that thought the Lakers were going to run a Golden State style system and LeBron was going to play off the ball were crazy.

Its LeBron. He is going to have the ball in his hands at the top of the key and direct traffic and call the plays and do what he wants to do. Thats what it means to have LeBron James on your team. 98% of it is positive but there are also certain things you have to live with- one of them being is that it LeBron's show.

He will always revert back to the familiar, especially in the more trying times.

LeBron running the show isn't the problem.

It's the guys around him that aren't knocking down shots.

Last night was a bad game, that kinda Shit happens.

Lose by 1, or lose by 30....

It still only counts as one loss.

Ps. I and others believe that Denver is better than the Lakers.

So, the result isn't a shock.

It's the margin of victory that's eyebrow raising.

 

[WiggyRuss]

He will always revert back to the familiar, especially in the more trying times.

LeBron running the show isn't the problem.

It's the guys around him that aren't knocking down shots.

Last night was a bad game, that kinda Shit happens.

Lose by 1, or lose by 30....

It still only counts as one loss.

Ps. I and others believe that Denver is better than the Lakers.

So, the result isn't a shock.

It's the margin of victory that's eyebrow raising.

I remember LeBron preaching patience when he came back to the Cavs....he tried to be patient, let Kyrie have the reigns......and then Kyrie was just not ready and the Cavs were struggling.

LeBron took over- took the reigns and control.

Its not in LeBron's nature to be patient and sit by while they lose games. He takes control- and he should. LeBron isnt going to play off the ball and run around the court off of picks, etc....its just not gonna happen while he is still at or near the top of his game.

Ill tell ya- Hart has been the guy that has impressed me the most on the Lakers. His 3pt shooting and defense are fucking EXACTLY what the Lakers need.

Id EASILY give up Ball before I gave up Hart if i was the Lakers.....shit- id probably give up Ingram before I gave up Hart.

 

[bksballer89]

Pretty shitty schedule for a Wednesday

 

[trojanfan12]

you guys are probably begging for the days of Kessler and Darnold....

USC at least hung in there vs. ND the other day.....i was hoping they might pull off the upset to help my Buckeyes reach the playoff- but not to be

what do you thin kthe issue is there?

I still think USC has the biggest name/biggest draw west of the Rockies in College football....esep. with the demise of Oregon.

Though STanford has been solid off and on as well.

USC shouldnt be a bad team.

I really wish Darnold would have stayed one more year. I thought he could use 1 more year to develop. But, as Matt Leinart and Matt Barkley showed, when you are projected as high as Darnold was...you have to go.

I think the problem was that Helton was too loyal to assistants who weren't getting the job done. When he became the permanent HC, he retained most of the guys from the staff and hired his brother and a family friend.

Based on the carnage of the last couple of days (4 or 5 assistants fired including the OC), it looks like he may have learned his lesson. Hopefully, he will hire the best possible guys and hold them accountable. If he does, USC will be fine and this season will be forgotten.

If he doesn't, he'll be gone after next season.

I was proud of how they played against Notre Dame. They actually fought back from some adversity rather than fold like they had been doing. But the same issues that have hurt them all season, cost them the upset. Untimely penalties and turnovers...

 

[WiggyRuss]

Pretty shitty schedule for a Wednesday

SAS Minne is kind of interesting

Cavs will prob get spanked by the Thunder but ill enjoy watching Sexton paly against RW....


Thursday should be great

Idny/LAL should be a very fun/even matchup

Toronto Golden State is obviously the game of the week

but even SAC LAC isnt bad

 

[WiggyRuss]

its a big game for the Lakers on Thursday if you ask me.

At home they should beat Indiana, but Indiana is a solid team. Its a game that the Lakers should win if they want to be considered a good team.

 

[bksballer89]

SAS Minne is kind of interesting

Cavs will prob get spanked by the Thunder but ill enjoy watching Sexton paly against RW....


Thursday should be great

Idny/LAL should be a very fun/even matchup

Toronto Golden State is obviously the game of the week

but even SAC LAC isnt bad

I'll be too focused on Saints/Cowboys

 

[WiggyRuss]

I'll be too focused on Saints/Cowboys

your Saints have been unreal.

Makes it even more surprising that my Browns hung with them- and prob. should have won that game. fucking Hue.

 

[trojanfan12]

Lol @ ignoring Luke's plays.

But, no surprise here.

He is essentially a coach on the floor.

He has earned the right to have a longer leash.

Exactly. Cracks me up that some folks think this means much.

Superstar players have the autonomy to take over/ignore plays. Phil granted both MJ and Kobe the right to operate outside the triangle when they saw fit.

It's allowed/tolerated because players at that level can do/create opportunities to do things that normal players can't.

From what I have seen so far, Lebron takes over when he feels he needs to in order to keep the game close/go for wins. I think he knows that it's going to take time, but also knows that they can't fall very far behind in the West, or there will be no playoffs. If he were doing that all of the time, it would be an issue. But he's not, so right now, it isn't.

But to be completely fair, I can also see where it could become an issue down the road.

 

[WiggyRuss]

I really wish Darnold would have stayed one more year. I thought he coulds use 1 more year to develop. But, as Matt Leinart and Matt Barkley showed, when you are projected as high as Darnold was...you have to go.

I think the problem was that Helton was to loyal to assistants who weren't getting the job done. When he became the permanent HC, he retained most of the guys from the staff and hired his brother and a family friend.

Based on the carnage of the last couple of days (4 or 5 assistants fired including the OC), it looks like he may have learned his lesson. Hopefully, he will hire the best possible guys and hold them accountable. If he does, USC will be fine and this season will be forgotten.

If he doesn't, he'll be gone after next season.

I was proud of how they played against Notre Dame. They actually fought back from some adversity rather than fold like they had been doing. But the same issues that have hurt them all season, cost them the upset. Untimely penalties and turnovers...

Darnold/Allen both have looked pretty good- and both deserved their status.

I think Baker has been head and shoulders the best QB in the draft, but Darnold and Allen both look like keepers.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Exactly. Cracks me up that some folks think this means much.

Superstar players have the autonomy to take over/ignore plays. Phil granted both MJ and Kobe the right to operate outside the triangle when they saw fit.

It's allowed/tolerated because players at that level can do/create opportunities to do things that normal players can't.

From what I have seen so far, Lebron takes over when he feels he needs to in order to keep the game close/go for wins. I think he knows that it's going to take time, but also knows that they can't fall very far behind in the West, or there will be no playoffs. If he were doing that all of the time, it would be an issue. But he's not, so right now, it isn't.

But to be completely fair, I can also see where it could become an issue down the road.

i dont think it means that much- but i think it shows that LeBron had no intention of playing in a system and playing off the ball.

When you have LeBron he IS the system.

 

[trojanfan12]

Darnold/Allen both have looked pretty good- and both deserved their status.

I think Baker has been head and shoulders the best QB in the draft, but Darnold and Allen both look like keepers.

Yeah, I think all 3 are doing well as rookies. Interesting that all 3 went to AFC teams. If their teams don't screw things up (always a possibility with the Browns, Jets and Bills lol), we could be in for some fun battles between those 3.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Exactly. Cracks me up that some folks think this means much.

Superstar players have the autonomy to take over/ignore plays. Phil granted both MJ and Kobe the right to operate outside the triangle when they saw fit.

It's allowed/tolerated because players at that level can do/create opportunities to do things that normal players can't.

From what I have seen so far, Lebron takes over when he feels he needs to in order to keep the game close/go for wins. I think he knows that it's going to take time, but also knows that they can't fall very far behind in the West, or there will be no playoffs. If he were doing that all of the time, it would be an issue. But he's not, so right now, it isn't.

But to be completely fair, I can also see where it could become an issue down the road.

Why do you always have to be honest and reasonable?

As a diehard Lakers fan, You are such a disappointment.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

I remember LeBron preaching patience when he came back to the Cavs....he tried to be patient, let Kyrie have the reigns......and then Kyrie was just not ready and the Cavs were struggling.

LeBron took over- took the reigns and control.

Its not in LeBron's nature to be patient and sit by while they lose games. He takes control- and he should. LeBron isnt going to play off the ball and run around the court off of picks, etc....its just not gonna happen while he is still at or near the top of his game.

Ill tell ya- Hart has been the guy that has impressed me the most on the Lakers. His 3pt shooting and defense are fucking EXACTLY what the Lakers need.

Id EASILY give up Ball before I gave up Hart if i was the Lakers.....shit- id probably give up Ingram before I gave up Hart.

Hart and Kuzma fit best with Lebron.

This actually works to the Lakers favor if they decide to move a youngin or two because I think Ingram will bring back the biggest return.

 

[trojanfan12]

i dont think it means that much- but i think it shows that LeBron had no intention of playing in a system and playing off the ball.

When you have LeBron he IS the system.

I disagree. I've watched every game and he does try to stay within the system. But, when you have that kind if talent, it has to be used.

The trick will be the same as it was with MJ and Kobe (and really, any great player) and making sure they don't go outside the system too much.

Hopefully, as everyone learns and adjusts to their roles, Lebron won't feel the need to go outside the system as much.

To me it's going to be up to the other players (especially the young guys) more so than Lebron. They have to earn his trust enough so that he doesn't feel like he has to be the system all the time for them to win.