2018-2019 NBA Regular Season Thread

[lebron23james]

"Bam is like a poor mans TT"?

TT never did, or will ever do anything without LeBron making it easy for him.
Bam already has shown that he can make a difference on his own. I'm not sure what his ceiling is, but he's going to be in the NBA for a long time.

First who the hell is BAM? lol

Secondly, Lebron doesn't make his teammates any better...Except some spot up 3 point shooters...

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

TT's first 2 years in the league (obviously with LeBron):

Year 1: 8.2 pts, 6.5 boards, 1.0 blocks,
Year 2: 11.7 pts, 9.4 boards, 0.9 blocks

TT this year once LeBron left: 11.5 pts, 11.1 boards

Bam his first two years in the league:
Year 1: 6.9 pts, 5.5 boards, 0.6 blocks
Year 2: 8.5 pts, 6.8 boards, 0.8 blocks

as i said- Bam is basically a poor mans TT. Both are very similar in how they play defense with being athletic enough to guard PF's, C's, and can switch out on occasion. Very similar players with Bam just not being as good his early years- which some of it is attached to PT, but if you are giving up minutes to Kelly Onlyk and J. Johnson, that might not be a good thing.

Actually he was giving up minutes mostly to Whiteside.
Ive watched both players.
TT isnt near as athletic as Bam.
It isnt even close.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

First who the hell is BAM? lol

Secondly, Lebron doesn't make his teammates any better...Except some spot up 3 point shooters...

3rd:
As we already know, you must not watch alot of NBA games
Who is Bam?

LeBron makes things EASIER for his teammates. TT 100% took advantage of it.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Definitely. $36.3M.

Definitely. $36.3M.

this is what i saw:

• A 2019 free agent with between 7-9 years of experience who chooses to re-sign with his previous team can land up to a five-year, $189.7 million deal.
• That same free agent, if he chooses to sign with a different team, can only sign a four-year, $140.6 million deal. That’s a difference of nearly $50 million on a single contract.

 

[dtgold88]

I like how you guys talk about the East like it matters lol

We all know the Warriors will crank it up come playoff time and run thru everyone.

Here comes the part where you all tell me Im wrong, the Warriors are vulnerable this year, and the playoffs should be interesting.

Then when they steamroll everyone you will all act like you didn't say they were vulnerable.

OK, but the top of the East has as much chance against GS as the top teams in the West, which means the West doesn't matter either.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Actually he was giving up minutes mostly to Whiteside.
Ive watched both players.
TT isnt near as athletic as Bam.
It isnt even close.

he isnt nearly as good as TT.

isnt it funny that what i said would happen with the Heat is EXACTLY what happened?

an expensive mediocre team fighting for one of the last couple playoff spots that will undoubtedly get slaughtered in the first round- being in NBA purgatory- not good enough to be a serious threat- not bad enough to get a game changing talent in the lotto?

you can without a doubt call me a "Heat hater" - just dont call me wrong.

 

[lebron23james]

You're the hypocrite here.
Many of us here over the years have been consistent on our opinions of James.
Your opinion is 100% one way or the other depending of what team he is on.

Is this like when DJ said Lebron was washed up and on the decline when he signed with the cavs in 2014 and that he had "a few years left" once he signed with the lakers.

Very consistent!

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

he isnt nearly as good as TT.

isnt it funny that what i said would happen with the Heat is EXACTLY what happened?

an expensive mediocre team fighting for one of the last couple playoff spots that will undoubtedly get slaughtered in the first round- being in NBA purgatory- not good enough to be a serious threat- not bad enough to get a game changing talent in the lotto?

you can without a doubt call me a "Heat hater" - just dont call me wrong.

Everyone felt that would prob be this years version.
Doesnt matter or change the fact that by next summer they’ll have plenty of cap space again.
Heat can ‘regroup’ without totally sucking unlike most franchises.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

he isnt nearly as good as TT.

isnt it funny that what i said would happen with the Heat is EXACTLY what happened?

an expensive mediocre team fighting for one of the last couple playoff spots that will undoubtedly get slaughtered in the first round- being in NBA purgatory- not good enough to be a serious threat- not bad enough to get a game changing talent in the lotto?

you can without a doubt call me a "Heat hater" - just dont call me wrong.

Do we need a Bam vs TT poll?

Nobody wouid want TT over Bam for the rest of their careers.

 

[dtgold88]

"Bam is like a poor mans TT"?

TT never did, or will ever do anything without LeBron making it easy for him.
Bam already has shown that he can make a difference on his own. I'm not sure what his ceiling is, but he's going to be in the NBA for a long time.

TT went for around 10 and 8 his first 2 years in the league without Lebron. Bam is around 8 and 6. More minutes for TT, of course...but TT has also been among the top offensive rebounders in the NBA since his rookie season. I would hardly call that "never doing anything"

Though I would agree they could be on about the same level.

 

[WiggyRuss]

A key number to keep in mind: Under NBA rules, Walker is eligible to sign a maximum value five-year, $188 million contract in the summer of 2019, with a first-season salary of $32.4 million. Teams other than the Hornets (or a team trading for Walker) could offer him a 4-year contract worth a maximum value of $139 million.

this is another different article that says basically the same thing---- Butler is on the same structure as well.

A kemba or butler extension would average about 35M a year after annual raises. my 37M estimate was a little high

 

[lebron23james]

TT benefits from playing with Lebron

Does Green benefit from playing with Curry, Durant, Thompson?

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

TT went for around 10 and 8 his first 2 years in the league without Lebron. Bam is around 8 and 6. More minutes for TT, of course...but TT has also been among the top offensive rebounders in the NBA since his rookie season.

Like I said...any team would take Bam over TT moving forward.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Do we need a Bam vs TT poll?

Nobody wouid want TT over Bam for the rest of their careers.

a 7 and 5 guy that has never done anything over a guy who was at 11 and 11 before he got hurt this year, and was at 11 and 10 his second year in the league before LeBron got there?

cmon now. Be realistic. TT was the better player early in his career- and he is better now.

Bam is a lot closer to Larry Nance Jr. then he is to TT.

 

[shopson67]

this is what i saw:

• A 2019 free agent with between 7-9 years of experience who chooses to re-sign with his previous team can land up to a five-year, $189.7 million deal.
• That same free agent, if he chooses to sign with a different team, can only sign a four-year, $140.6 million deal. That’s a difference of nearly $50 million on a single contract.

Early Maximum Salary Projections For 2019/20

Pretty close. I was going by 30% eligibility of the $109M cap, but it's different for same team or new.

 

[dtgold88]

TT's first 2 years in the league (obviously with LeBron):

Year 1: 8.2 pts, 6.5 boards, 1.0 blocks,
Year 2: 11.7 pts, 9.4 boards, 0.9 blocks

TT this year once LeBron left: 11.5 pts, 11.1 boards

Bam his first two years in the league:
Year 1: 6.9 pts, 5.5 boards, 0.6 blocks
Year 2: 8.5 pts, 6.8 boards, 0.8 blocks

as i said- Bam is basically a poor mans TT. Both are very similar in how they play defense with being athletic enough to guard PF's, C's, and can switch out on occasion. Very similar players with Bam just not being as good his early years- which some of it is attached to PT, but if you are giving up minutes to Kelly Onlyk and J. Johnson, that might not be a good thing.

Probably pointed out, but in truth there was no Lebron with TT enahincing your point.

Though I would say Bam might be better than a poor man's TT.

edit - figured that was just a mistake on your part.

 

[lebron23james]

a 7 and 5 guy that has never done anything over a guy who was at 11 and 11 before he got hurt this year, and was at 11 and 10 his second year in the league before LeBron got there?

cmon now. Be realistic. TT was the better player early in his career- and he is better now.

Bam is a lot closer to Larry Nance Jr. then he is to TT.

This is like the whiteside argument all over again lol

 

[WiggyRuss]

TT benefits from playing with Lebron

Does Green benefit from playing with Curry, Durant, Thompson?

whats funny is in the last 2 seasons TT has not played with LeBron he is at roughly 11 and and 10--- one of well under 20 guys in the league that is a basically a double double guy with pts and rebounds. LeBron without a doubt HURT TT's stats- which makes sense when LeBron takes 27/8/8 off the board every gaame

 

[WiggyRuss]

This is like the whiteside argument all over again lol

except even worse for the Miami guy...lol

 

[dtgold88]

For too much of the fourth quarter. When the ball was in Caruso's hands, good things happened. When in Lebron's hands, the ball too often stalled.

as I said, happened all the time here. Didn't really see the entire court, but have to guess someone might have had a better shot than Lebron than the one that was blocked. Though I will say I preferred him going to rim as opposed to the 25 foot off balance shots he took in that situation.