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Gotta agree with the Chuckster on this one. Guys like Wilt Chamberlain had to cram his 7'1" 285 lb. frame into a commercial seat and play back to back to back games. Teams weren't exactly staying in top hotels either.

Nowadays, they have private jets with custom seats, stay in top hotels and have all of their luggage etc. handled for them. But they don't want to play back to back games?
 

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Gotta agree with the Chuckster on this one. Guys like Wilt Chamberlain had to cram his 7'1" 285 lb. frame into a commercial seat and play back to back to back games. Teams weren't exactly staying in top hotels either.

Nowadays, they have private jets with custom seats, stay in top hotels and have all of their luggage etc. handled for them. But they don't want to play back to back games?

Yeah I have no issues with his comments at all.
 

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Yeah, nothing wrong with playing back to backs. I too agree with Barkley here.
 

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Yeah...funny how those biases run both ways.

My Mom was amused.

His Mom....less so.

Which is hypocritical considering his Dad is from Belize and she is Mexican...lol

But, I was TOO black...lmfao

Our generation is much more open-minded.

Love my Mom more than anyone, outside of my kids.

But, her blatant homophobia has caused us to go weeks without talking.

I had to learn to accept that I couldn't change her views, no matter how much it hurt one of our family members who was like a brother to me.
I go to a black church and my pastor is obviously black - he is really dark and growing up the blacks not nearly as dark looked down on him. That was strange to me.
 

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Dated a black girl for a bit in my 20's. It was interesting. My parents never said a negative word, but I could tell that they weren't real comfortable with it. I think it had to do more with what their friends and/or other family members would think.

Her family was fairly mixed. She had a white uncle who was total hippie.

My friends thought it was awesome because she looked like Janet Jackson. lol

We used to get the occasional "look" (especially from older folks). She had to stop me from saying something a few times.

Welcome to my world......I've had various verbal altercations with some stupid mofo's who had a silly smirk on his face while glancing at me and female on my arm.

Once, the stupid ass dropped the WORD. The look that crossed my face was enough to make him disappear like a fart in church.
 

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Spent the weekend in jail once when I was at a bar shortly after my divorce. Flashed a pic of the baby to the girl and some stupid Bubba walked by and looked at it....."Oh, a niglet." I was up and off the bar stool and cleaned his clock before the cops showed up and took me away.

Not a fun weekend at all.
 

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Gotta agree with the Chuckster on this one. Guys like Wilt Chamberlain had to cram his 7'1" 285 lb. frame into a commercial seat and play back to back to back games. Teams weren't exactly staying in top hotels either.

Nowadays, they have private jets with custom seats, stay in top hotels and have all of their luggage etc. handled for them. But they don't want to play back to back games?
Well yes and no, Yes the players were tougher and endured more, but we already know that the players are weaker today and not very tough - that's nothing new. That's the yes part, but

The reason I like the move is that yes the players played back to back games and even played three nights in a row, but that does not mean it was a good thing for the players or for the game. From the days I was watching every game - I noticed that beginning with Shaq and Kobe - a second game on the second night of a back to back night was almost a guaranteed loss - That's the reason Popovich started resting his players on the 4th game in 5i nights. He knew already it was guaranteed loss for his starters, so why not give the others playing time and they almost won the game that I watched, so while Charles is right that they played more, he is wrong that it should stay that way - I strongly favor stretching out the games some and letting the players at least come into a different stadium a little rested. It was insane for all of those years that the Lakers would play a home game in Los Angeles and then have to fly out at midnight and arrive to Denver, in the morning and have to play before they can even get used to the altitude or get some rest. Where is the fun in knowing the players have little chance to win? As far as flying commercial and nice Hotels - I have no problem with how they are doing it now - as long as they aren't allowed to carry guns
 

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Spent the weekend in jail once when I was at a bar shortly after my divorce. Flashed a pic of the baby to the girl and some stupid Bubba walked by and looked at it....."Oh, a niglet." I was up and off the bar stool and cleaned his clock before the cops showed up and took me away.

Not a fun weekend at all.
I bet it was worth it to knock his ass out
 

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Yeah, nothing wrong with playing back to backs. I too agree with Barkley here.
The problem is that there is greater risk in injury from fatigued players. I love what they are doing. It really was long over-due
 

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I disagree. Folks who post here regularly have the right to not have the board fucked up by someone dragging up years old threads because they are having a tantrum. They also have the right to not be called names, subjected to 5000 word posts, have someone constantly looking to pick fights and having threads completely derailed because one person can't control their own emotions.
As for his banning, we'll see what happens. He's not out of the woods just yet.

If he is banned -- would there still be 1000s of posts asking why he isn't posting ?
 
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The problem is that there is greater risk in injury from fatigued players. I love what they are doing. It really was long over-due

Fatigue?!?

Most these guys are in their early 20s, not their 50s.

They get given ice baths, massages and the best personal care an athlete could wish for before and after games. Then they travel back to their five-star hotels where they can spend the rest of the evening playing Xbox and ordering room service.

Much like you, TLF, the league is full of pussies with bullshit excuses when they play bad.

Fatigue. GTFO!
 

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Fatigue?!?

Most these guys are in their early 20s, not their 50s.

They get given ice baths, massages and the best personal care an athlete could wish for before and after games. Then they travel back to their five-star hotels where they can spend the rest of the evening playing Xbox and ordering room service.

Much like you, TLF, the league is full of pussies with bullshit excuses when they play bad.

Fatigue. GTFO!
Sorry that it hurts your feelings Chuckles, but I have learned a few things working out in the gym. One of those is that if you have had a serious work out, it takes two days for your muscles to rest and recover, so while you are ignorantly calling them vulgar names, the medical field and professional trainers across the nation disagree with your ignorant conclusion and says that your should not be straining and exercising the same muscles the next day. Perhaps they are young and can do it, but that doesn't mean it's a healthy choice and the numerous injuries speaks for themselves, but personally I would rather see to teams rested and playing their A game then their D minus games. I'm not talking about much time - just put an end to the back to back games - it's insane and ludicrous to play til 9 p.m, then have to fly to Denver to play the Nuggets the next night without even a decent night's rest. I have no problem with the Lakers playing the Kings on a night and the Warriors the next when they are close by - STFU AND GTFU yourself
 
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Sorry that it hurts your feelings Chuckles, but I have learned a few things working out in the gym. One of those is that if you have had a serious work out, it takes two days for your muscles to rest and recover, so while you are ignorantly calling them vulgar names, the medical field and professional trainers across the nation disagree with your ignorant conclusion and says that your should not be straining and exercising the same muscles the next day. Perhaps they are young and can do it, but that doesn't mean it's a healthy choice and the numerous injuries speaks for themselves, but personally I would rather see to teams rested and playing their A game then their D minus games. I'm not talking about much time - just put an end to the back to back games - it's insane and ludicrous to play til 9 p.m, then have to fly to Denver to play the Nuggets the next night without even a decent night's rest. I have no problem with the Lakers playing the Kings on a night and the Warriors the next when they are close by - STFU AND GTFU yourself

That shit bored the hell out of me.

Either learn what a paragraph is or tone down the wiggy-esque rants cupcake.
 

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Fatigue?!?

Most these guys are in their early 20s, not their 50s.

They get given ice baths, massages and the best personal care an athlete could wish for before and after games. Then they travel back to their five-star hotels where they can spend the rest of the evening playing Xbox and ordering room service.

Much like you, TLF, the league is full of pussies with bullshit excuses when they play bad.

Fatigue. GTFO!

This trend was started by the coaches, not the players. Yet, players shoulder 100% of the blame in the public eye. Really not fair.
 

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Gotta agree with the Chuckster on this one. Guys like Wilt Chamberlain had to cram his 7'1" 285 lb. frame into a commercial seat and play back to back to back games. Teams weren't exactly staying in top hotels either.

Nowadays, they have private jets with custom seats, stay in top hotels and have all of their luggage etc. handled for them. But they don't want to play back to back games?

Again though, not the players fault.

If you want to go further back, part of the blame goes to the '94-'95 Rockets who sleep walked through the regular season before turning it in in the playoffs. It was shortly thereafter that coaches and front offices began to realize just how little the regular season mattered compared to having guys rested and ready for post season.

While I understand Chuck's frustration as a fan, his criticism is misguided. Adam Silver had to make this move because regular season games are being viewed as increasingly less important. The proper response was to limit back to backs.

If Chuck were playing today, he would get rested too. Whether he liked it or not.
 
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