2017 NBA Offseason Thread

[wildturkey]

Report: Nerlens Noel turns down deal for $17.5 million per year

Not sure how accurate this is but I don't think anyone else is going to offer him more than $17.5 million per year.

He fired is agent? More like the agent should fire him for turning that down

 

[CitySushi]

So curious, are Thunder fans concerned that Russell Westbrook has a max extension on the table and has yet to accept? John Wall and James Harden already accepted theirs. Just curious as to why Russ might not be so fast to sign the extension.

 

[Heatles84]

So curious, are Thunder fans concerned that Russell Westbrook has a max extension on the table and has yet to accept? John Wall and James Harden already accepted theirs. Just curious as to why Russ might not be so fast to sign the extension.

Would be interesting to see the existing Thunder contingent on how they approach Russ.

 

[trojanfan12]

So curious, are Thunder fans concerned that Russell Westbrook has a max extension on the table and has yet to accept? John Wall and James Harden already accepted theirs. Just curious as to why Russ might not be so fast to sign the extension.

I'd guess that at least some of it has to do with Paul George. He'll likely want to see how things work playing with him and also if George signs with the Thunder or heads to the Lakers.

Assuming George leaves, he may want to see what other help the Thunder can get him. Even if George re-signs, he may want to see what the Thunder do to bring other players to get them closer to the Warriors.

After all, he's already seen the Thunder not be willing to spend to keep a contender together once before in his career.

 

[CitySushi]

I'd guess that at least some of it has to do with Paul George. He'll likely want to see how things work playing with him and also his George signs with the Thunder or heads to the Lakers.

Assuming George leaves, he may want to see what other help the Thunder can get him. Even if George re-signs, he may want to see what the Thunder do to bring other players to get them closer to the Warriors.

After all, he's already seen the Thunder not be willing to spend to keep a contender together once before in his career.

I have a feeling that Russ and PG will work to about 80% of what Russ and KD were, but 80% is still insanely great. PG can't do some of the other things that KD does (no one really can) which is the only reason for the knock. It's not on fit, just different game aspects.

But PG's lingering free agency is a concern. The Thunder really need to move Kanter, but I doubt there are any takers at this point.

 

[trojanfan12]

I have a feeling that Russ and PG will work to about 80% of what Russ and KD were, but 80% is still insanely great. PG can't do some of the other things that KD does (no one really can) which is the only reason for the knock. It's not on fit, just different game aspects.

But PG's lingering free agency is a concern. The Thunder really need to move Kanter, but I doubt there are any takers at this point.

Agree.

Honestly, I think any star player who wants to win a title is making a mistake if they re-sign early. It's pretty much their only leverage to get teams to put a contending roster around them.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

So curious, are Thunder fans concerned that Russell Westbrook has a max extension on the table and has yet to accept? John Wall and James Harden already accepted theirs. Just curious as to why Russ might not be so fast to sign the extension.

I can think of one good reason - He want's to win a championship - and quite possibly has concluded that will never happen in Houston who has a history of putting together good teams, but not quite good enough.

 

[DJ]

RW has had a 5 year extension waiting to be signed for a few months.....if I were OKC and their fans, I'd be worried.

 

[Heatles84]

This has potential...

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Agree.

Honestly, I think any star player who wants to win a title is making a mistake if they re-sign early. It's pretty much their only leverage to get teams to put a contending roster around them.

This is my sentiment - Honestly - the Last time Kobe signed - I think he knew that there wouldn't be any more championships to win and was at the end of his career, so he made the most of it

I can think of one good reason - He want's to win a championship - and quite possibly has concluded that will never happen in Houston who has a history of putting together good teams, but not quite good enough.

I meant Oklahoma - Sorry

 

[Black Adam]

This has potential...

well, well well...

 

[DJ]

Chris Haynes‏Verified account @ChrisBHaynes 6m6 minutes ago
Nerlens Noel signs 1-year, $4.1 million QO to return to Mavs, league sources tell ESPN. Reported $17M "offer " was non-existent in any form.

 

[Mecca]

Chris Haynes‏Verified account @ChrisBHaynes 6m6 minutes ago
Nerlens Noel signs 1-year, $4.1 million QO to return to Mavs, league sources tell ESPN. Reported $17M "offer " was non-existent in any form.

Wow....wanna bet on the fight?

I got Connor.

 

[HurricaneDij39]

I'd guess that at least some of it has to do with Paul George. He'll likely want to see how things work playing with him and also if George signs with the Thunder or heads to the Lakers.

Assuming George leaves, he may want to see what other help the Thunder can get him. Even if George re-signs, he may want to see what the Thunder do to bring other players to get them closer to the Warriors.

After all, he's already seen the Thunder not be willing to spend to keep a contender together once before in his career.

People need to get over the whole Harden thing - Like, in the worst way.

It's not the reason Westbrook won't sign an extension and never will be. I'd say 75% of the reason has to do with Paul George, and the other 25% having to do with the fact that he signed an early extension just last summer and wants to wait and see the story unfold before he does the same thing this time around.

 

[Heatles84]

People need to get over the whole Harden thing - Like, in the worst way.

It's not the reason Westbrook won't sign an extension and never will be. I'd say 75% of the reason has to do with Paul George, and the other 25% having to do with the fact that he signed an early extension just last summer and wants to wait and see the story unfold before he does the same thing this time around.

Why? Management didn't want to give him a max and were off by a reported $5 mil total from what Harden was seeking. They keep Harden, and the Thunder possibly have a title.

 

[Mecca]

People need to get over the whole Harden thing - Like, in the worst way.

It's not the reason Westbrook won't sign an extension and never will be. I'd say 75% of the reason has to do with Paul George, and the other 25% having to do with the fact that he signed an early extension just last summer and wants to wait and see the story unfold before he does the same thing this time around.

Did you see the story where Durant thinks the Pacers took a shit deal for George?

My bad, he thinks they just gave him away...which is far worse.

Kevin Durant shocked by OKC trade for Paul George: 'Indiana just gave him away'

 

[bksballer89]

 

[trojanfan12]

People need to get over the whole Harden thing - Like, in the worst way.

It's not the reason Westbrook won't sign an extension and never will be. I'd say 75% of the reason has to do with Paul George, and the other 25% having to do with the fact that he signed an early extension just last summer and wants to wait and see the story unfold before he does the same thing this time around.

Absolutely nothing in my post said anything about Harden. The plain fact is...the Thunder had a contending team and their FO wasn't willing to spend the money to keep that team together and it was more than Harden that they let go. That fact simply can't be disputed.

Given that fact...Why would Westbrook trust that they will spend the money this time? If Westbrook signs his extension, George leaves and the Thunder don't bring in anyone else...he's stuck for 4-5 years on a team that's never going to be better than a 5-6 seed.

If George does re-sign with the Thunder, they still aren't any better than the 4th or 5th best team (maybe 3rd) in the West and definitely not good enough to take down the Warriors. If the Thunder decide they don't want to spend the money to bring in another top player...once again, he's stuck for 4-5 years on a team that can't win a title.

So no, no one needs to get over anything re: Harden. The Thunder have a history of not paying to keep a team together.

The rest of your post was just repeating what I already said.

 

[gordontrue]

Bad news for Pels. I believe Solomon actually led them in minutes last season. Underrated part of that team.

 

[wildturkey]

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