2016 Commit List

[Red_Alert]

What's important is can they run, can they catch, can they tackle, can they execute what they're being taught?

Can this staff teach what they want the players to learn?

If so then they'll win 10 games minimum on the regular.

Bopleeny and his staff couldn't teach. I don't know if they knew in their own minds what they wanted to do day-to-day. It's just that simple.

.

 

[Footballnut]

What's important is can they run, can they catch, can they tackle, can they execute what they're being taught?

Can this staff teach what they want the players to learn?

If so then they'll win 10 games minimum on the regular.

Bopleeny and his staff couldn't teach. I don't know if they knew in their own minds what they wanted to do day-to-day. It's just that simple.

.

couldn't agree more, it's about what you do with em... second year will be more telling than the first IMO. Hope it's a lot better.

 

[Red_Alert]

couldn't agree more, it's about what you do with em... second year will be more telling than the first IMO. Hope it's a lot better.

Maybe, maybe not.

Getting P.O. on campus is a start. Their guy will at least be in the system whether he redshirts or not.

If T.A. is the guy next season (likely) expect more of the same. It will be his last season, but IMO Riley and Langsdorf see fit that's it's more important to get 10 guys on the same page than T.A. (one guy). T.A. doesn't have the mind or the skill set to do what they want him to do.

Translation: Run the zone-read option and Nebraska wins at least 9 games last season. However, that's not the future. That's not what they want to do. It was a throw away (sacrifice) season. This upcoming season could be more of the same. Not saying great times are coming with this staff. Just saying Husker fans need to be patient for one more year.

 

[Footballnut]

Maybe, maybe not.

Getting P.O. on campus is a start. Their guy will at least be in the system whether he redshirts or not.

If T.A. is the guy next season (likely) expect more of the same. It will be his last season, but IMO Riley and Langsdorf see fit that's it's more important to get 10 guys on the same page than T.A. (one guy). T.A. doesn't have the mind or the skill set to do what they want him to do.

Translation: Run the zone-read option and Nebraska wins at least 9 games last season. However, that's not the future. That's not what they want to do. It was a throw away (sacrifice) season. This upcoming season could be more of the same. Not saying great times are coming with this staff. Just saying Husker fans need to be patient for one more year.

True but with that said it's important to remember we were literally four plays away from winning 9 games... or 8 if you take away the play against MSU. So we could have a similar season with a better record next year. I think we'll be better but the schedule is admittedly harder as well. Losing VV hurts a lot... if he came back our DL would be really stout, still could be, but we need to avoid injuries like the plague. It will be interesting to watch.

 

[Red_Alert]

True but with that said it's important to remember we were literally four plays away from winning 9 games... or 8 if you take away the play against MSU. So we could have a similar season with a better record next year. I think we'll be better but the schedule is admittedly harder as well. Losing VV hurts a lot... if he came back our DL would be really stout, still could be, but we need to avoid injuries like the plague. It will be interesting to watch.

Simple scheme changed the results of the D-line IMO. Well that and maybe some S&C technique of which I have no idea about.
I would like to have VV and Collins back, but I don't think the interior line would have had the same success under Bopleeny's system. I think we have years of example to compare to this first season under a new staff. It's just not something that improved once Suh departed. If anything Bopleeny's got worse as the season reached the final stretch where this one stayed stout to the bitter end.

Secondary improved later in the season. That likely would have led to a couple more wins early. These guys had to reinvent the wheel.

 

[psaboy]

I disagree with that. They'll get into the big recruits if they clean up the fundamentals and start winning games they're not expected to. They made a good step towards that in the last half of the season and in their bowl game.

Iowa was a setback, but turnovers kill.

They won 3 of their last 4 games. You have to go back to 2009 for that. Not to mention not one game in 2015 was a blowout. There is reason to be optimistic.

I was meaning that the brand of Nebraska football is not what it used to be. Top 20 team year in and year out, winning 10+ games most years and being competitive in all games. We have not seen this in 15 years. I'm not hanging my hat on winning 3 of last 4 games in a 6-6 season. When they can go on road on beat a Ohio State, Michigan State, Wisconsin, Iowa or Purdue then they will get attention of those recruits

 

[Red_Alert]

I was meaning that the brand of Nebraska football is not what it used to be. Top 20 team year in and year out, winning 10+ games most years and being competitive in all games. We have not seen this in 15 years. I'm not hanging my hat on winning 3 of last 4 games in a 6-6 season. When they can go on road on beat a Ohio State, Michigan State, Wisconsin, Iowa or Purdue then they will get attention of those recruits

All things considered, Nebraska was competitive in all of its games last season with Bopleenys recruits and an entirely new system on both sides of the ball.

Take away T.A.'s INT's (Fyfe's INT's) and have the secondary play early like they did closing the season and things wouldn't have been so bad.

Compare the first 6 games stats to the last 6 games stats and you get a different picture. Other than T.A's INT's that is.

They were competitive with Michigan St (a Play-off team).
Throw Rutgers in the trash can if you wish.
Competitive with Iowa (Rose Bowl team)
Competitive with UCLA.

They were 4 INT's away from closing the season (4-0). When was the last time Nebraska did that?

Not saying they are going to be world beaters (Top 5), but there is reason for optimism in the future. There could certainly be another year of facepalm considering the QB will be either T.A. or a true freshman.

Feel free to bash Michigan St and Iowa's performances in their big bowl games, but keep in mind they did get there. Josh Rosen was supposed to rip Nebraska's secondary a new asshole, but he didn't.

.

 

[psaboy]

RA, I'm commenting on the "brand" of ball the Huskers have been playing the past 15 years is not the brand that these high level recruits want to come play. Hopefully it will change under Mr. Nice Guy, but I doubt it. The B1G is not the Big 8/12.

 

[psaboy]

This is Nebraska Brand




W L AP Poll Coach/UPI Poll
1969 9 2 11 12
1970 11 0 1 3
1971 13 0 1 1
'1972 9 2 4 9
1973 T–2nd 9 2 7 11
1974 T–2nd 9 3 9 8
1975 T–1st 10 2 9 9
1976 T–4th 9 3 9 7
1977 T–2nd 9 3 12 10
1978 T–1st 9 3 8 8
1979 2nd 10 2 9 7
1980 2nd 10 2 7 7
1981 1st 9 3 11 9
1982 1st 12 1 3 3
'1983 1st 12 1 2 2
1984 T–1st 10 2 4 3
1985 2nd 9 3 11 10
1986 3rd 10 2 5 4
1987 2nd 10 2 6 6
1988 1st 11 2 10 10
1989 2nd 10 2 11 12
1990 T–2nd 9 3 24 17
1991 T–1st 9 2 15 16
1992 1st 9 3 14 14
'1993 1st 11 1 3 3
1994 1st 13 0 1 1
1995 1st 12 0 1 1
1996 1st 11 2 6 6
1997 1st 13 0 2 1
1998 T–2nd 9 4 19 20
1999 1st 12 1 3 2
2000 T–1st6 10 2 8 7
2001 T–1st7 11 2 8 7
2002 4th 7 7 — —
2003 2nd 10 3 19 18

 

[Red_Alert]

This is Nebraska Brand




W L AP Poll Coach/UPI Poll
1969 9 2 11 12
1970 11 0 1 3
1971 13 0 1 1
'1972 9 2 4 9
1973 T–2nd 9 2 7 11
1974 T–2nd 9 3 9 8
1975 T–1st 10 2 9 9
1976 T–4th 9 3 9 7
1977 T–2nd 9 3 12 10
1978 T–1st 9 3 8 8
1979 2nd 10 2 9 7
1980 2nd 10 2 7 7
1981 1st 9 3 11 9
1982 1st 12 1 3 3
'1983 1st 12 1 2 2
1984 T–1st 10 2 4 3
1985 2nd 9 3 11 10
1986 3rd 10 2 5 4
1987 2nd 10 2 6 6
1988 1st 11 2 10 10
1989 2nd 10 2 11 12
1990 T–2nd 9 3 24 17
1991 T–1st 9 2 15 16
1992 1st 9 3 14 14
'1993 1st 11 1 3 3
1994 1st 13 0 1 1
1995 1st 12 0 1 1
1996 1st 11 2 6 6
1997 1st 13 0 2 1
1998 T–2nd 9 4 19 20
1999 1st 12 1 3 2
2000 T–1st6 10 2 8 7
2001 T–1st7 11 2 8 7
2002 4th 7 7 — —
2003 2nd 10 3 19 18

That is not a "brand". That is results.

The term Big Mac is a "brand". Not how many that are sold.

Look up the definition of "brand" and get back to me.

The Foster Farms Bowl chose Nebraska because of their "brand", not because they went (5-7).

.

 

[Red_Alert]

A "brand" could also be used to describe style of play. If you think "high level recruits" want to play triple option football then Ga Tech would be Top 5 in recruiting the last 8 years.

 

[tometom]

I'm with RA. this 2nd year will be real telling. the secondary finally was getting it there at the end of the season and with pretty much everyone back, they should be even better at the beginning of the season and throughout it. that alone should provide a couple more wins. Gerry himself said that it was harder to learn than he expected.

as far as commits, since this is a commit thread, i don't follow it too much, but it sure seems to me we have more guys deciding between Oklahoma's, Michigan's and ASU's vs NU, where as under Bo, it was more of between some MAC or SunBelt team vs NU.

 

[oaknightshockey1]

as far as commits, since this is a commit thread, i don't follow it too much, but it sure seems to me we have more guys deciding between Oklahoma's, Michigan's and ASU's vs NU, where as under Bo, it was more of between some MAC or SunBelt team vs NU.

This right here. Our Plan B's and Plan C's are actually still being recruited by other Power 5 schools, and I think I trust Riley's talent evaluation more than Bo's just based on past results and how many times Todd Graham jumps in after us when we are in on a guy.

 

[Red_Alert]

I'm with RA. this 2nd year will be real telling. the secondary finally was getting it there at the end of the season and with pretty much everyone back, they should be even better at the beginning of the season and throughout it. that alone should provide a couple more wins. Gerry himself said that it was harder to learn than he expected.

as far as commits, since this is a commit thread, i don't follow it too much, but it sure seems to me we have more guys deciding between Oklahoma's, Michigan's and ASU's vs NU, where as under Bo, it was more of between some MAC or SunBelt team vs NU.

Yes. The secondary went from 7 years of zone coverage embedded into the depth chart to man-to-man with just 30 days of spring ball and another 30 days of fall practice to grasp it.

The recruiting has definitely improved with fewer "best of the rest" type players.

.

 

[psaboy]

This is n

A "brand" could also be used to describe style of play. If you think "high level recruits" want to play triple option football then Ga Tech would be Top 5 in recruiting the last 8 years.

OK, so when Huskers put a better product on the field they will recruit those bigger name boys. Sorry, I was reaching a bit

That is not a "brand". That is results.

The term Big Mac is a "brand". Not how many that are sold.

Look up the definition of "brand" and get back to me.

The Foster Farms Bowl chose Nebraska because of their "brand", not because they went (5-7).

.

There are a lot of definations of "Brand". So, I guess I should say when Huskers put a better product on the field, that is when the bigger/notable recruits will take notice.

 

[Red_Alert]

This is n


OK, so when Huskers put a better product on the field they will recruit those bigger name boys. Sorry, I was reaching a bit


There are a lot of definations of "Brand". So, I guess I should say when Huskers put a better product on the field, that is when the bigger/notable recruits will take notice.

Agree 100%.

The blowouts that Nebraska suffered in the HWSNBN and Bopleeny eras hurt recruiting. Kids and their parents want them to get coached up, not get embarrased on the field of play. Even if the kid's a back-up and sees limited playing time they still want to be associated with a positive competitive environment.
The Nebraska brand is still there. The Top 10 program All-Time, the Red N on the helmet, the facilities, the fan support, etc.
People (not Nebraska) still turn on the tv to watch Nebraska in games that matter.

.

 

[iruletheskool]

Riley is getting the same type of recruits Bo was getting.

The only argument that any crazy person could make is "well, yea but Riley's 3-stars fit here moar bettar than Bo's."

My point is we're sitting here getting excited over the same exact stuff we have gotten excited over for the past decade. We get these mid-level recruits and then watch their videos and talk ourselves into believing they are really something special.

All these 3-star recruits really tell us is we're not back to winning yet. When we get there then suddenly this thread will be filled with "4-star commits to Nebraska!"

they at least have offers from other big schools..

 

[iruletheskool]

R_A please refer to the one and only POB by the appropriate number of characters

 

[Red_Alert]

R_A please refer to the one and only POB by the appropriate number of characters

Post Office Box?

 

[iruletheskool]

I think that's his twitter handle 'oneandonlyPOB' or something