2016/2017 Off-Season Thread

[SFGRTB]

He looks ok. He seems to be a solid 6th inning guy. Pretty much averages an inning an outing and only let 5 of 17 inherited runners score last year. He also had a 3.5 ERA and 1.5 WHIP.

Good camp competition. If he makes it, awesome. If not, good depth.

Throws hard, strikeout guy. If he's on his game could be a nice option. Wouldn't be in good shape if he was relied on to be a top guy.

 

[tzill]

Throws hard, strikeout guy. If he's on his game could be a nice option. Wouldn't be in good shape if he was relied on to be a top guy.

Agreed. Probably a 30% chance to make the team, absent injuries. I'm excited about Gearrin this year; I think he breaks out and we have a new "core five"
Melancon
Smith
Strick
Law
Gearrin

Wouldn't suck if Osich stepped up too.

 

[calsnowskier]

Agreed. Probably a 30% chance to make the team, absent injuries. I'm excited about Gearrin this year; I think he breaks out and we have a new "core five"
Melancon
Smith
Strick
Law
Gearrin

Wouldn't suck if Osich stepped up too.

The awesomeness that was the Core Four was that each filled a VITAL spot...

LOOGY
ROOGY
Long reliever
Closer

If you have those 4 spots filled by studs, you are set. And the great thing about the Core Four was that the Closer was actually the least of the 4.

In the 5 you mentioned, there isn't a LOOGY or long guy. You have a ROOGY (Strick) and a closer. Smith MAY be the Affeldt-long guy, but Bochy seemed to want to squeeze him into the LOOGY spot last year instead. Law may also qualifying as the 1 IP+ long guy, but he is more of a traditional 8th inning, closer-in-waiting type instead.

 

[SFGRTB]

Agreed. Probably a 30% chance to make the team, absent injuries. I'm excited about Gearrin this year; I think he breaks out and we have a new "core five"
Melancon
Smith
Strick
Law
Gearrin

Wouldn't suck if Osich stepped up too.

I'm hoping that the knee injury last year was the root of Osich's problems and he's back on his game. Some of the best stuff if he's on.

 

[tzill]

The awesomeness that was the Core Four was that each filled a VITAL spot...

LOOGY
ROOGY
Long reliever
Closer

If you have those 4 spots filled by studs, you are set. And the great thing about the Core Four was that the Closer was actually the least of the 4.

In the 5 you mentioned, there isn't a LOOGY or long guy. You have a ROOGY (Strick) and a closer. Smith MAY be the Affeldt-long guy, but Bochy seemed to want to squeeze him into the LOOGY spot last year instead. Law may also qualifying as the 1 IP+ long guy, but he is more of a traditional 8th inning, closer-in-waiting type instead.

Yeah, no LOOGY, but I'm not sure you really need that guy if you've got an Affeldt or two.

 

[LHG]

Aaron Hill is joining the spring training party too. Gosh, I wonder if Omar Vizquel is available too. - Giants Agree To Minor League Deal With Aaron Hill

 

[msgkings322]

Aaron Hill is joining the spring training party too. Gosh, I wonder if Omar Vizquel is available too. - Giants Agree To Minor League Deal With Aaron Hill

Screw that, get me Ozzie Smith

 

[SFGRTB]

Screw that, get me Ozzie Smith

I heard McCovey is available. Could use a bench power bat.

 

[SFGRTB]

Aaron Hill is joining the spring training party too. Gosh, I wonder if Omar Vizquel is available too. - Giants Agree To Minor League Deal With Aaron Hill

Is it open tryouts in Giants Camp? Shall we make a trip to Scottsdale?

 

[calsnowskier]

Screw that, get me Ozzie Smith

I am pretty certain Honus Wagner is available...

 

[LHG]

Is it open tryouts in Giants Camp? Shall we make a trip to Scottsdale?

Yes. Yes it is. I hear Slade Heathcott is going now too (Minor MLB Transactions: 2/17/17). Let's all try out! What do you all think? Time to break out the gloves and bats!

 

[SFGRTB]

Yes. Yes it is. I hear Slade Heathcott is going now too (Minor MLB Transactions: 2/17/17). Let's all try out! What do you all think? Time to break out the gloves and bats!

Hotels are too expensive... I probably have to pass. Maybe next year!





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Slade just adds to the log jam in the outfield. He was once a super prospect for the Yankees, but multiple knee surgeries and off the field troubles later has put him here.

 

[LHG]

Nothing inspires confidence for a player like an organization bringing in a dozen other players just in case you don't make the grade.

 

[SFGRTB]

Nothing inspires confidence for a player like an organization bringing in a dozen other players just in case you don't make the grade.

It's been 3 days and Mac is already getting lost in the options shuffle. It's really annoying, but I think we have to expect the Giants will try out the vets before the kids unless the vets REALLY blow it:

 

[calsnowskier]

It's been 3 days and Mac is already getting lost in the options shuffle. It's really annoying, but I think we have to expect the Giants will try out the vets before the kids unless the vets REALLY blow it:

To be fair, he did basically say that Parker has squatters rights...

 

[LHG]

It's been 3 days and Mac is already getting lost in the options shuffle. It's really annoying, but I think we have to expect the Giants will try out the vets before the kids unless the vets REALLY blow it:

That is a very low standard when this happens at Giants' camp. Consider the sheer number of veteran outfielders, one of them is going to make the team at the expense of Williamson. It will be interesting to see how the infield and outfield shake out, not just in SF but the upper minors. Considering the number of recent signings, not everyone is going to make the cuts, even if they stash a few away on reserve.

 

[LHG]

To be fair, he did basically say that Parker has squatters rights...

True. Its just the logic presented in this article is baffling. Williamson may need more time because he hasn't gotten enough at-bats. If Parker fails, the Giants need to carry someone who doesn't need to platoon. But Williamson needs to play full time and not scrape for at-bats. What am I missing here? Beyond the initial reason Sabean gives for Williamson needing more time in the minors sounding like he thought of an excuse on the spot, the logic sounds circular.

 

[calsnowskier]

True. Its just the logic presented in this article is baffling. Williamson may need more time because he hasn't gotten enough at-bats. If Parker fails, the Giants need to carry someone who doesn't need to platoon. But Williamson needs to play full time and not scrape for at-bats. What am I missing here? Beyond the initial reason Sabean gives for Williamson needing more time in the minors sounding like he thought of an excuse on the spot, the logic sounds circular.

He is just planting the seed for when Mac doesn't make the team. He wasn't talking to us. He was talking to the fan who listens with a half-ear and doesn't know the roster inside and out and is familiar with the minor leagues down to deepest depths like we do.

 

[Stokes1931]

It's been 3 days and Mac is already getting lost in the options shuffle. It's really annoying, but I think we have to expect the Giants will try out the vets before the kids unless the vets REALLY blow it:

Teh Jimmy-Jack appears to be close to mid-season form already.

 

[LHG]

Some notes on the Giants found here - NL West Notes: Gonzalez, Hill, Arroyo, Morse, Hwang, Stewart. I couldn't substantiate the rumors that the Giants were opening a second camp site for all the veterans that they are picking up, that they are going to play all spring as split squads or that they were close to minor league deals with Tinker, Evers and Chance. I'm sure something will surface about those in the next few days.