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like most of you, not convinced Armstead is our BPA? Would also be more 'reassuring' if Baalke said how good he is, not how rare a '4 technique' is. a rare position doesn't mean he is REALLY good playing it?

Arik certainly has the "measurables" for a DE, but was there enough production? Especially at Oregon, you'd think there would be more opportunities for production? Isn't the Oregon's other DE better, Brentson Buckner?
 

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He isn't who I would have picked but, it is what it is. I do think he has the potential to be a good player and he does play the run well, hopefully he can become consistent with his game play.
 

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I really thought the biggest need was CB or WR.
 

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I would like DGB, Strong, Jalen Collins or Rowe.
 

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With so many needs I would think Baalke would go with a more seasoned or more pro ready player rather than a guy with potential or high ceiling. High ceiling indicates a few years away from developing and not having an impact until then. It's easy to play backseat driver here to the draft given no one knows for sure who will do what but I still would have preferred trading up for Parker (went at 14) or with the trade back take the CB Peters.
 

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Didn't care for pick but at same time i didn't like Aldon Smith pick either but well see. Still have day 2 and 3 hopefully we get trade up for DGB
 

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Armstead at 17 is really not a bad pick especially that you also got a 4th in this year draft and a 5th in next year. I can live with it. The kid is a project and I really don't like taking a protect in the 1st rd. A lot of scouts are raving about him and think he might be the Best DL in this drat but also some say he can be a bust. We will find out. I hate the pick but I will trust baalke. I think baalke was smart enough to trade back and get some extra picks. Also word is 49ers were all about ready to drat parker before Miami took him.
 

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DGB DGB DGB DGB DGB

That's who I want in the 2nd rd.

Back up plan Strong.
 

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Just throwing some other Ideas out there: Maybe move up and get TE Maxx Williams(might be VD last year and Mcdonald isn't great), or Trade up for MLB Eric Kendricks.

I really want DGB. My back up plan is Strong and I really like the Idea of Maxx Williams.
 

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Just throwing some other Ideas out there: Maybe move up and get TE Maxx Williams(might be VD last year and Mcdonald isn't great), or Trade up for MLB Eric Kendricks.

I really want DGB. My back up plan is Strong and I really like the Idea of Maxx Williams.

I like the idea of Maxx Williams too but I think the bigger need would be DGB, Kendricks or Rowe/Collins
 

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I think you get into trouble if you start drafting for need.

People are talking about Marcus Peters and DGB or trading up for Parker. I'm a big Washington Huskies fan and Peters is talented but you really don't know if he's going to be a knucklehead and get suspended or what. I honestly think it's a 50-50 toss up and I can see why the team didn't want to gamble on that.

DGB dropping out of the first round I think shows all teams are very leery of his background. Depending on what teams found out I personally would use a 2nd on him, but would never have used a 1st.

With what it took for the Chargers to move up two spots to 15 can people honestly think the price wouldn't have been crazy to move to 13 or higher? Look at who those teams drafted. Do people think the Browns (who loved Shelton) would have dropped down 3 spots for anything less than a 1st and 3rd? Is Parker worth that? People would have been on this board crying about how much we paid to move up a few spots.
 

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I think you get into trouble if you start drafting for need.

People are talking about Marcus Peters and DGB or trading up for Parker. I'm a big Washington Huskies fan and Peters is talented but you really don't know if he's going to be a knucklehead and get suspended or what. I honestly think it's a 50-50 toss up and I can see why the team didn't want to gamble on that.

DGB dropping out of the first round I think shows all teams are very leery of his background. Depending on what teams found out I personally would use a 2nd on him, but would never have used a 1st.

With what it took for the Chargers to move up two spots to 15 can people honestly think the price wouldn't have been crazy to move to 13 or higher? Look at who those teams drafted. Do people think the Browns (who loved Shelton) would have dropped down 3 spots for anything less than a 1st and 3rd? Is Parker worth that? People would have been on this board crying about how much we paid to move up a few spots.

When it was apparent none of the 1st round receivers were going to to fall to 15th, I would have tried to trade down even farther in 1st round maybe pick up Perriman .
 

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I think you get into trouble if you start drafting for need.

People are talking about Marcus Peters and DGB or trading up for Parker. I'm a big Washington Huskies fan and Peters is talented but you really don't know if he's going to be a knucklehead and get suspended or what. I honestly think it's a 50-50 toss up and I can see why the team didn't want to gamble on that.

DGB dropping out of the first round I think shows all teams are very leery of his background. Depending on what teams found out I personally would use a 2nd on him, but would never have used a 1st.

With what it took for the Chargers to move up two spots to 15 can people honestly think the price wouldn't have been crazy to move to 13 or higher? Look at who those teams drafted. Do people think the Browns (who loved Shelton) would have dropped down 3 spots for anything less than a 1st and 3rd? Is Parker worth that? People would have been on this board crying about how much we paid to move up a few spots.
Chargers move made no sense but as a 49ers fan I loved the trade back. We now have 3 4th rd picks.
 

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Top 2nd Round Prospects from ESPN Insider

The first round of the 2015 NFL draft has been completed, with 32 very good prospects already with their new teams. But a wealth of quality talent remains on the board heading into Day 2.
We've ranked the top remaining prospects after Round 1 and included their short scouting write-ups that ran in our pre-draft Top 300 rankings. Grades for each trait range from 1-5, with 1 being the best, and the player's Scouts Inc. grade is in parentheses.
(Note: LSU offensive lineman La'el Collins is not listed here, despite his scouting grade, because of the uncertainty surrounding his draft stock due to a recent police investigation.)
1. Randy Gregory, OLB, Nebraska (90)
Instincts/recognition: 2
Take-on skills: 3
Range vs. run: 2
Tackling: 2
Third-down capabilities: 1
What he brings: He's the most physically gifted edge rusher in this class with outstanding first-step quickness and length, and surprising power given his lean frame. His inability to add and keep weight is a concern, as is his off-field history. He'll need to get stronger against the run. But he can be a difference-maker as a pass-rusher if he does what he needs to off the field.
2. Eddie Goldman, DT, Florida State (89)
Versus the run: 1
Pass-rush skills: 3
Quickness: 2
Toughness/motor: 2
What he brings: Goldman won't give you much as a pass-rusher, but he is excellent at defending the run. He has a very powerful upper body and can take on double teams, and his overall effort and motor are good.
3. Devin Smith, WR, Ohio State (88)
Separation skills: 2
Ball skills: 2
Big-play ability: 1
Competitiveness: 4
What he brings: Smith was the best vertical receiver in college football last season, and he projects as an elite deep threat in the NFL with his combination of route-running savvy, top-end speed, body control and ball skills. He was less consistent on short and intermediate routes, and his effort and toughness are question marks.
4. Eric Kendricks, ILB, UCLA (88)
Instincts/recognition: 1
Take-on skills: 3
Range vs. run: 2
Tackling: 2
Third-down capabilities: 1
What he brings: He is the best coverage linebacker in this draft. He lacks ideal size and power for the position in run defense, but he makes up for it with very good overall range and his quick diagnosis of plays. He's a playmaker against both the run and the pass.
5. Jaelen Strong, WR, Arizona State (88)
Separation skills: 3
Ball skills: 1
Big-play ability: 2
Competitiveness: 2
What he brings: He's a very confident and aggressive pass-catcher who comes down with a lot of 50-50 balls, and has the top-end speed needed to be an NFL deep threat. Most of his separation from coverage happens late, because he lacks ideal quickness to separate on shorter routes.
6. Landon Collins, S, Alabama (88)
Instincts/recognition: 2
Cover skills: 2
Ball skills: 3
Run support: 1
What he brings: He's an excellent run defender as an in-the-box safety who is built like a weakside outside linebacker - and some teams think that might be his best position. He'll have trouble in coverage if he has to match up one-on-one against slot receivers with regularity, but he's athletic enough to cover most running backs and tight ends.
7. Eli Harold, OLB, Virginia (88)
Instincts/recognition: 3
Take-on skills: 2
Range vs. run: 2
Tackling: 4
Third-down capabilities: 2
What he brings: Harold needs to get stronger and improve his reliability as a tackler, in addition to developing better recognition skills. But he has a high upside as a pass-rusher, with several pass-rush moves and good athleticism and closing burst.
8. T.J. Clemmings, OT, Pittsburgh (88)
Pass protection: 3
Run blocking: 1
Awareness: 3
Toughness: 2
What he brings: He only played two years at offensive tackle after moving over from the defensive side of the ball, and that lack of experience showed up in his play at college, particularly in pass protection. But he has the raw tools to develop into a very good tackle or guard, and he could be an overpowering run blocker early on.
9. Jake Fisher, OT, Oregon (87)
Pass protection: 1
Run blocking: 3
Awareness: 2
Toughness: 2
What he brings: Fisher has outstanding foot quickness and lateral agility for the offensive tackle position, making him a very effective pass-blocker. He's an adequate run-blocker in zone-blocking schemes who can take advantage of that athleticism; however, his power base is just average, so he can struggle versus stronger run defenders.
10. Devin Funchess, WR, Michigan (87)
Separation skills: 2
Ball skills: 3
Big-play ability: 2
Competitiveness: 2
What he brings: He is something of a hybrid between a wide receiver and an "F" tight end, with a rare combination of length, speed, fluidity and body control. He has trouble separating on shorter routes, but he's a matchup problem in the red zone and on vertical routes. His ball skills declined during the 2014 season as Michigan's offense struggled.
 
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