2014 Offseason Plans Thread Pt2

[Justinkm83]

After inking Rodney, the Mariners are "all in" and are "cautiously optimistic" that they will land outfielder Nelson Cruz. Seattle has been talking with Cruz and is willing to give him multiple years.

 

[Broseidon]

Perhaps you're on to something here sir. hahaha For some reason, I just remember Baker being a nice rotation piece at various positions, and a very good bat against one side. But considering what he signed for, I may be one-of-one who had him on any kind of pedestal. So this said, you're right, he was thinking correctly in jumping on 2 years and let the history write itself.

He was raking before he hurt his thumb, so I get the love.

 

[Broseidon]

After inking Rodney, the Mariners are "all in" and are "cautiously optimistic" that they will land outfielder Nelson Cruz. Seattle has been talking with Cruz and is willing to give him multiple years.

Jack Z is going yolo this offseason.

 

[Justinkm83]

Jack Z is going yolo this offseason.

With a bunch of bad contracts IMO. The Cruz one will be bad, and I don't even like paying Rodney 2/14.

 

[Broseidon]

With a bunch of bad contracts IMO. The Cruz one will be bad, and I don't even like paying Rodney 2/14.

Well You don't 'yolo' by making prudent decisions.

Jack Z is dogshit as a GM. I Schadenfreuded the hell out of that article bashing the Mariners FO. Saying that JZ lied about being saber savvy to get the job, but really knows nothing of advanced metrics.

 

[RevSader]

Well You don't 'yolo' by making prudent decisions.

Jack Z is dogshit as a GM. I Schadenfreuded the hell out of that article bashing the Mariners FO. Saying that JZ lied about being saber savvy to get the job, but really knows nothing of advanced metrics.

#6 Organization bro!!!

 

[TheRangerDude]

With a bunch of bad contracts IMO. The Cruz one will be bad, and I don't even like paying Rodney 2/14.

I think whoever gets Cruz at this point, is going to get a bargain. I'm pretty confident he still has a at least 3 years good years in him and he was having great season last year despite all the turmoil. The only exception to this might be the M's though. Historically he just hasn't played well at Safeco and though I think he will do a little better with the fences in, I don;t think he will be able to put up the numbers there that he could somewhere else.

 

[Justinkm83]

#6 Organization bro!!!

What do you mean by this?

 

[Justinkm83]

I think whoever gets Cruz at this point, is going to get a bargain. I'm pretty confident he still has a at least 3 years good years in him and he was having great season last year despite all the turmoil. The only exception to this might be the M's though. Historically he just hasn't played well at Safeco and though I think he will do a little better with the fences in, I don;t think he will be able to put up the numbers there that he could somewhere else.

I wouldn't consider having to give up a pick and a 2-3 year deal for at 10+ a year a bargain. Especially for a player who doesn't even want to be in Seattle (just my opinion). I wanted Cruz back as soon as the season was over, but as the DH. He will have trouble in that OF.

 

[fordman84]

Seattle needs to develop offensive talent. They have some really talented young arms though.

I think if they, like Oakland, had a more hitter friendly park they would develop better hitters and their pitchers would seem to not develop as well. A's especially.

 

[Windingmywatch]

With a bunch of bad contracts IMO. The Cruz one will be bad, and I don't even like paying Rodney 2/14.

Late night west coast trips always seem to have that dude with the crooked hat coming in when it is 11:30pm. Hate that.

Fernando Rodney vs. Batters - Baseball-Reference.com

Choo seems to have the best success against him. Mitch might too.

 

[fordman84]

#6 Organization bro!!!

#6 in the ALWest

 

[RevSader]

What do you mean by this?

Huge inside joke back from fangraphs in 2010. Dave Cameron named them number 6 org in the mlb. Mariners fans in the know hate it.

 

[TheRangerDude]

I wouldn't consider having to give up a pick and a 2-3 year deal for at 10+ a year a bargain. Especially for a player who doesn't even want to be in Seattle (just my opinion). I wanted Cruz back as soon as the season was over, but as the DH. He will have trouble in that OF.

If he will take 2-3 years and $20-$30M… we better swoop in and scoop him up for that, thats nothing. We paid $10M for Berkman last year and Cruz can actually still play.

 

[Justinkm83]

If he will take 2-3 years and $20-$30M… we better swoop in and scoop him up for that, thats nothing. We paid $10M for Berkman last year and Cruz can actually still play.

I would still like Cruz, but I've kind of given up. I think JD is going to give it to Mitch. JD is ready to move on from the WS team. Well, most of them.

 

[darrylgann]

Rangers In Talks With Tommy Hanson: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com

 

[DT LUNA]

I would still like Cruz, but I've kind of given up. I think JD is going to give it to Mitch. JD is ready to move on from the WS team. Well, most of them.

I think you're right. JD is not the kind to live in the past. This year is all that matters.

 

[Justinkm83]

Rangers In Talks With Tommy Hanson: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com

I'm not sure what to think of this. He was good in ATL, but a lot of pitchers suck after going to the Angels. Maybe we could get him back on track.

 

[TheRangerDude]

I would still like Cruz, but I've kind of given up. I think JD is going to give it to Mitch. JD is ready to move on from the WS team. Well, most of them.

I agree, I think DH is Mitch's job to lose but it would be very disappointing if Cruz went that cheap and we just had to sit on our hands. I think he will at least get $15M per year but my guess he it will be around $17M. I mean he has already turned down a $75M for 5 years deal, given the demand, I can see the years going down but I think he still could command more per season.

 

[TheRangerDude]

Rangers In Talks With Tommy Hanson: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com

That doesn't get me too excited but he was pretty good for a few games last season.