2014 CAP status and adjustments

[rehone]

According to Miguel, aka CAP god, Pats will start offsasin at

$7.33million under CAP including Hernandez 7.5 million hit

$2 million saving by cutting Sopoaga

$3.76 million by converting Mankins salary to bonus Ways to reduce Mankins? cap number :Patriots Salary Cap

That puts us $13 million under CAP and according to MIguel Pats can even cut Amendola and save around $2.88 million in 2014.Danny Amendola ? Cap Scenarios :Patriots Salary Cap

Pats can cut Wilson and Kelly for $2.4 million and can extend Wilfork and save $5 million there so Pats can easily get to $20 million under CAP if they want to which should allow Pats to resign our key free agents and maybe ge a pass rusher.

.Miguel's UNOFFICIAL 2014 Patriots Salary Cap Information Page

 

[eric5577x]

Lets see what happens. Could be a good off-season. Let the genius work!! LOL Cut Dola and pay Edelman, problem solved.

 

[briz almighty]

Lets see what happens. Could be a good off-season. Let the genius work!! LOL Cut Dola and pay Edelman, problem solved.

agreed. make wilfork restructure for peanuts or cut him, then sign mack. i think swaping wilfork cap for mack would be brilliant.

 

[TKO]

Sometimes I think they've become the NFL version of the Bruins when Harry Sinden was the GM...they're content to be in the mix every year but they won't sell out the franchise when it comes to spending big on FAs that could bring another Championship. The Bruins went almost thirty years between Stanley Cups and it's now been nine years since the Pats won a Lombardi despite having a possible GOAT QB.

I'm not saying it's bad business because one injury to a high priced FA can damage your cap but if they screw up a couple of drafts...well, here we are.

 

[JDM]

They spend to the cap every year. I'm honestly not sure where the idea they aren't willing to spend comes from.

 

[TKO]

They spend to the cap every year. I'm honestly not sure where the idea they aren't willing to spend comes from.

They don't spend to the cap if they can rollover cap space from one year to the next. The next time you hear Bob Kraft say they spend to the cap...remember the rollover.

 

[SDGuy73]

Spending to the cap isn't bright. You some room to sign players during the year when injuries accure. By the league rules...every team has to spend to 90% of the cap.

 

[09boomer]

Pats do spend close to the cap every year. 2013 dead money, all this money count towards the cap but goes right in Kraft pockets. Seems like BB has been taking tips from Rick Pitino on how to run a salary cap. Leon Washington was cut the given a second contract Austin Collie counts 3 times towards the cap. Name Cap
Number TOTAL $16,696,845 Brandon Lloyd $3,500,000 Jon Fanene $2,566,667 Aaron Hernandez $2,550,000 Chad Ochocinco $1,583,334 Leon Washington $1,200,000 Ras-I Dowling $940,759 Marquice Cole $391,765 Jermaine Cunningham $346,434 Daniel Fells $333,333 Kyle Love $250,000 Marcus Forston $234,314 Marquice Cole $225,294 Dan Koppen $175,000 Anthony White $169,411 Tyronne Green $168,471 Austin Collie $163,235 Austin Collie $130,588 Jabar Gaffnet $125,000 Spencer Larsen $125,000 Brandon Ford $101,647 Zach Sudfeld $99,294 Justin Green $89,824 Josh Kline $89,647 Lavelle Hawkins $75,000 Andre Neblett $74,118 Kanorris Davis $72,314 Chris McDonald $69,431 R.J. Mattes $67,765 A.J. Francis $66,000 Kanorris Davis $66,000 D.J. Williams $65,294 LaQuan Williams $65,294 Justin Green $54,000 Ja'Gared Davis $52,235 Cierre Wood $48,000 Zoltan Mesko $46,814 Justin Francis $40,980 Jeremy Ebert $36,150 Kamar Aiken $35,648 Sealver Siliga $30,000 Nick McDonald $26,668 Niko Koutouvides $25,000 Michael Jenkins $15,000 Travis Howard $12,000 Jeremiah Warren $12,000 R.J. Dill $12,000 Josh Kline $11,333 Brandon Deaderick $10,075 Sergio Brown $9,711 Jeff Demps $7,334 Kanoris Davis $6,666 Patrick Ford $6,000 Matt Stankiewitch $3,333 Ben Bartholomew $3,333 Kyle Hix $3,000 Matt Roark $1,667 Brad Herman $1,667 Dewayne Cherrington $1,333 Brandon Jones $1,166 Quentin Hines $1,000 Brandon Ford $1,000 Stephon Morris $833 Mike Zupancic $666

 

[JDM]

You realize dead money is money they already spent, right?

 

[rehone]

You realize dead money is money they already spent, right?

quiet!!! Don't wake then.

I kind of bet they don't realize that JDM.

 

[09boomer]

Yes I do, it allows Kraft to tell everyone on the radio this weekend we are always spending to cap. To hint to fans that Aqib Talib will have to take a below market contract to stay in New England, with his injuries and us being right up against cap. That Talib loves it here and we will do our best to sign him. I heard this before with Welker and we signed Danny Amendola soon to be Dead Money either 2014 or 2015. JDM do you know what dead money is BAD salary cap management, it handcuff us from signing impact free agents, it lets you brag on how our GM is the best because we let Brandon Lloyd go and replaced him with a rookie. JDM you tell me Brandon Lloyd cap hit 3,500,000 replaced by Aaron Dobson $623,340. Total cap hit 4,123,340 was Dobson worth that or was it bad salary cap management.

 

[rehone]

The Pats manage the CAP as well s any team in football. Anyone that says otherwise is mistaken. People make it sound like somehow BB does not understand why he lets a player go. Hernandez is $7.5 million of the dead money and nobody saw that coming. every team in the NFL has dead money. It is a large part of managing the CAP by pushing some money forward.

Bad Salary CAP management and horrible drafting. Lord how do we EVER win a game.

 

[JDM]

So how are you saying it's money in kraft's pocket if it's money they spent? That's absurd.

15million in dead money is pretty solid by NFL standards. Few teams have much less, a lot have substantially more.

 

[MrMoJoRisin63]

Pats do spend close to the cap every year. 2013 dead money, all this money count towards the cap but goes right in Kraft pockets. Seems like BB has been taking tips from Rick Pitino on how to run a salary cap. Leon Washington was cut the given a second contract Austin Collie counts 3 times towards the cap. Name Cap
Number TOTAL $16,696,845 Brandon Lloyd $3,500,000 Jon Fanene $2,566,667 Aaron Hernandez $2,550,000 Chad Ochocinco $1,583,334 Leon Washington $1,200,000 Ras-I Dowling $940,759 Marquice Cole $391,765 Jermaine Cunningham $346,434 Daniel Fells $333,333 Kyle Love $250,000 Marcus Forston $234,314 Marquice Cole $225,294 Dan Koppen $175,000 Anthony White $169,411 Tyronne Green $168,471 Austin Collie $163,235 Austin Collie $130,588 Jabar Gaffnet $125,000 Spencer Larsen $125,000 Brandon Ford $101,647 Zach Sudfeld $99,294 Justin Green $89,824 Josh Kline $89,647 Lavelle Hawkins $75,000 Andre Neblett $74,118 Kanorris Davis $72,314 Chris McDonald $69,431 R.J. Mattes $67,765 A.J. Francis $66,000 Kanorris Davis $66,000 D.J. Williams $65,294 LaQuan Williams $65,294 Justin Green $54,000 Ja'Gared Davis $52,235 Cierre Wood $48,000 Zoltan Mesko $46,814 Justin Francis $40,980 Jeremy Ebert $36,150 Kamar Aiken $35,648 Sealver Siliga $30,000 Nick McDonald $26,668 Niko Koutouvides $25,000 Michael Jenkins $15,000 Travis Howard $12,000 Jeremiah Warren $12,000 R.J. Dill $12,000 Josh Kline $11,333 Brandon Deaderick $10,075 Sergio Brown $9,711 Jeff Demps $7,334 Kanoris Davis $6,666 Patrick Ford $6,000 Matt Stankiewitch $3,333 Ben Bartholomew $3,333 Kyle Hix $3,000 Matt Roark $1,667 Brad Herman $1,667 Dewayne Cherrington $1,333 Brandon Jones $1,166 Quentin Hines $1,000 Brandon Ford $1,000 Stephon Morris $833 Mike Zupancic $666

This is very hard to read.

 

[Drawmeomg]

Sometimes I think they've become the NFL version of the Bruins when Harry Sinden was the GM...they're content to be in the mix every year but they won't sell out the franchise when it comes to spending big on FAs that could bring another Championship. The Bruins went almost thirty years between Stanley Cups and it's now been nine years since the Pats won a Lombardi despite having a possible GOAT QB.

I'm not saying it's bad business because one injury to a high priced FA can damage your cap but if they screw up a couple of drafts...well, here we are.

I'm on board for it as a strategy, though. Very few free agents turn out to be bigtime difference makers, and it often takes multiple years even when they do. Free agents don't work as quick fixes; spending big doesn't win playoff games.

That's not to say you don't want free agents, just the expectation that you can spend and turn that into wins is wrong. You pay for specific players to fill specific roles, and even then half the time it doesn't work out.

 

[09boomer]

JDM if you don't under stand I don't care. Not all of us dips BB shit in butter and says it taste like lobster. If it looks like shit smells like shit its going to taste like shit. rehone for you to compare Lloyd dead money to Aaron Hernandez thank you. MOJO I copy and past » Over the Cap- New England Patriots 2013 Salary Cap and Contracts Too homers I don't give a fuck if you get mad because I said something you don't like about BB I luv the Pats and spend more money on the than most of you. If you can post how great BB is and never hold him accountable for his bad decision making and I say something you don't like GO FUCK YOURSELF.

 

[briz almighty]

pats usually spend up to the cap they save about 5 mill always just to have some room to make additional moves if they need to. lloyd actaully sign here cheap he could have got alot more elswhere but he was holding out for the pats. they asked him to lower his price. it was a good signing at the time with our wr situation and mcdaniels coming back. unfortunatly the pats were so thin at wr he got most of the defense attention, hes really a number 2 and needs a stud #1 opposite him to be effective. we just didnt have a #1.

 

[briz almighty]

bad cap management see the Yets trying to load up and overpay tons of scrubs. pats rarely overpay for anyone they actually get players cheaper than most teams.

 

[JDM]

JDM if you don't under stand I don't care. Not all of us dips BB shit in butter and says it taste like lobster. If it looks like shit smells like shit its going to taste like shit. rehone for you to compare Lloyd dead money to Aaron Hernandez thank you. MOJO I copy and past » Over the Cap- New England Patriots 2013 Salary Cap and Contracts Too homers I don't give a fuck if you get mad because I said something you don't like about BB I luv the Pats and spend more money on the than most of you. If you can post how great BB is and never hold him accountable for his bad decision making and I say something you don't like GO FUCK YOURSELF.

How do I not understand. I explained why the numbers you are talking about are to signs of bad cap management, as they are the same or better than most of the league in dead money. It is essentially impossible to not have at least 10 million worth of dead money with how contracts nowadays are structured.


Keep misrepresenting things as much as you'd like, but you just come across as not having a clue what you're talking about.

 

[rehone]

JDM if you don't under stand I don't care. Not all of us dips BB shit in butter and says it taste like lobster. If it looks like shit smells like shit its going to taste like shit. rehone for you to compare Lloyd dead money to Aaron Hernandez thank you. MOJO I copy and past » Over the Cap- New England Patriots 2013 Salary Cap and Contracts Too homers I don't give a fuck if you get mad because I said something you don't like about BB I luv the Pats and spend more money on the than most of you. If you can post how great BB is and never hold him accountable for his bad decision making and I say something you don't like GO FUCK YOURSELF.

Obviously you spend too much time on the Pats and not quite enough on english as a first language or more aptly the art of writing a literate post. You are obviously lacking in any written skills.

I would say you are a douche but I am betting I will be accused of inciting a riot for poking some testosterone laden illiterate twit.

Now to get back to the point after the child has had his say. Most of us disagreed with the Lloyd release but none of us know what issues were involved in the locker room which may or may not have been an issue. Lloyd's CAP hit for 2014 is $1.5 million in dead money. The Fanane dead money of $1.5 million is the result of deception by Fanene due to an injury. Remove Hernandez and the Pats really have little dead money in comparison.

The remainder are primarily there because dead money resulting from bad draft picks or simply players released because they cannot play or injuries made them not viable like dowling whose bonus money was spread over last year and this. It is a fact of life in the NFL.

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Look closely at Seattle. They have no CAP space and multiple top players are UFA and they need new contracts soon for superstars on defense and Wilson is 1-2 years from a major contract. It is an illusion that Seattle will go on a long run because they have to pay Sherman, Wilson, Wagner, Thomas, Okung and many others. Hard choices need to be made and they can make them but they will lose players and damn good ones. Browner, Thurmond, Bennett, and Tate and others are up this year.

They can get CAP space but only by redoing contracts or cutting players like Rice that cost you dead money. It is part of doing business in the NFL.