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#19 Nebraska at #12 Penn State

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bonham

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Well, I'm just telling you what's happening.
 

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Well, I'm just telling you what's happening.

I know. And I know how bothered this makes you.

It's just my opinion that Paterno is the face of the university. He's a brand. And the more he's involved, the worse this is going to get. He's going to be judged, the university is going to be judged, by all of America.

There needs to be distance. Joe should not have the authority to determine what happens at this point. He should be told to take a leave of absence - at this point no one involved should be coaching anything for anyone.
 

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I just realized that JoePa basically decided on his own to release the statement announcing his retirement without involving the board of trustees at all, or the university.
 

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Dirk’s Brunch Bites, Nov. 9 | sports.omaha.com

Graham Spanier doesn’t get it. Joe Paterno doesn’t get it. The students who gathered in Paterno’s front yard Tuesday night and chanted “Beat Nebraska” clearly don’t get it.
That’s why the Penn State board of trustees should vote to call Harvey Perlman this morning and tell the Nebraska chancellor it’s not appropriate for Penn State to play a football game this Saturday, especially not on the campus where sexual crimes against little boys allegedly took place.
Cancel the game. Forfeit.
For the past 9 1/2 years, Penn State chose to worry about Penn State.
As Jerry Sandusky, alleged sexual predator, walked the hallways of the football facilities, Penn State officials had the chance to call police… or carry on with business.
How many times did Paterno or Tim Curley or Mike McQueary see Sandusky and consider stopping him? Instead, they chose to worry about themselves.
That must change. Reality must be re-oriented. Not at the end of the season. Now.
Somebody needs to make a statement that Penn State cares about more than winning games and upholding Paterno’s image.
Paterno’s immediate dismissal is one necessary step. Not playing Saturday is the next.
Football is supposed to be an escape from the daily grind. It’s too soon for an escape at Penn State, where the magnitude of what happened hasn’t sunk in.
If it had sunk in, Sandusky wouldn’t have been allowed anywhere near Penn State facilities the past several years. He was spotted lifting weights last week — long after Paterno and Spanier knew he was under investigation for sexual abuse.
If it had sunk in, Spanier wouldn’t have released a statement over the weekend “unconditionally” backing his embattled administrators — he didn’t even mention Sandusky’s victims.
If it had sunk in, Penn State officials wouldn’t have requested that all questions at Paterno’s Tuesday press conference be football-related — when Spanier realized that wasn’t going to happen, he canceled the presser.
If it had sunk in, Paterno wouldn’t have referenced Saturday’s game in a short message to his supporters Tuesday night.
And he sure as hell wouldn’t think he (or McQueary) has the right to coach on Saturday. This game will be a pep rally for Paterno. That’s a slap in the face to Sandusky’s victims — and to all who find the cover-up so disturbing.
A minimum of eight boys are living with the emotional scars of sexual assault. And Penn State is still worried about Penn State.
We all glorify college football — some of us even profit from it. We make its actors our heroes and our villains. It’s part of our culture. But times like these, football is not important.
For one week, Penn State should do the right thing. Shine the light away from the field. Let Beaver Stadium sit empty.
Forfeiting Saturday’s game would be a gesture of compassion to the victims. It would signal to fans and athletes that getting to the bottom of the mess is the highest priority. It would show that some things at Penn State are more important than beating Nebraska and winning a Big Ten title.
Why punish football players and fans who had nothing to do with Sandusky? Because this should be a time to reflect, not compete.
If Southern Cal players can accept a bowl ban because a former player received extra benefits, then Penn State can forfeit one game for the biggest college football scandal of our lifetimes.
Tuesday night, hundreds of people marched through the streets of State College, apparently in support of Paterno. How is this town fit to host a major college football game in three days?
And here’s the bigger question: Why would it want to?
 

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Well there's one point of view from our side of the street.
 

bonham

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I definitely understand where the writer of that article is coming from, and absolutely do not think ANYONE should forget about the abuse victims over anything going on. BUT I don't see a reason in ending a season for players that were 10-12 themselves when all of this occurred.
 

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I hope Nebraska serves JoePa up a nice big shit sandwich for his last home game....

Huskers big.....
 

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I definitely understand where the writer of that article is coming from, and absolutely do not think ANYONE should forget about the abuse victims over anything going on. BUT I don't see a reason in ending a season for players that were 10-12 themselves when all of this occurred.

They don't have to end the season. But every coach involved should be GONE, IMMEDIATELY.

They don't deserve to play out the rest of the season. The team will do fine without them.

If I'm the school prez, those guys can't coach for me. They are STILL WORRIED about their legacy, and winning ball games.......that's what I don't think you get right now. There is STILL NO CONCERN FOR THE VICTIMS.

It's all about Paterno, winning a few more games to pad his bogus record, and leaving on HIS terms. The sheer arrogance of this reeks to everyone outside of state college.

They have to go. RIGHT NOW.
 

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They don't have to end the season. But every coach involved should be GONE, IMMEDIATELY.

They don't deserve to play out the rest of the season. The team will do fine without them.

If I'm the school prez, those guys can't coach for me. They are STILL WORRIED about their legacy, and winning ball games.......that's what I don't think you get right now. There is STILL NO CONCERN FOR THE VICTIMS.

It's all about Paterno, winning a few more games to pad his bogus record, and leaving on HIS terms. The sheer arrogance of this reeks to everyone outside of state college.

They have to go. RIGHT NOW.

:nod: Yes. Fact is, Joe could end up in legal trouble. After seeing and hearing his bullshit, I wouldn't feel the least bit sorry if he did at this point.

Did Penn State's Joe Paterno break law in Jerry Sandusky case? - Michael McCann - SI.com
 

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:nod: Yes. Fact is, Joe could end up in legal trouble. After seeing and hearing his bullshit, I wouldn't feel the least bit sorry if he did at this point.

Did Penn State's Joe Paterno break law in Jerry Sandusky case? - Michael McCann - SI.com

To date.....there has been NO support for the victims. It's all about HIM from his own statements!

The sheer arrogance here is appalling. Is there a parent alive that will send their kids to play for these people???

They are COMPLETELY out of line and can't see it. The Governor or SOMEONE needs to force them all OUT.
 

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Players are players and coaches are coaches ... those involved in prepping the players for the game will be focused. I believe that this scandal will have little effect on the game. Nebraska has an excellent team and will win easily. I am not sold on Penn State this year (and yes I see their record).
 

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To date.....there has been NO support for the victims. It's all about HIM from his own statements!

The sheer arrogance here is appalling. Is there a parent alive that will send their kids to play for these people???

They are COMPLETELY out of line and can't see it. The Governor or SOMEONE needs to force them all OUT.

Did you type that without reading the statement?

"STATE COLLEGE, Pa. - I am absolutely devastated by the developments in this case. I grieve for the children and their families, and I pray for their comfort and relief.

I have come to work every day for the last 61 years with one clear goal in mind: To serve the best interests of this university and the young men who have been entrusted to my care. I have the same goal today.

That's why I have decided to announce my retirement effective at the end of this season. At this moment the Board of Trustees should not spend a single minute discussing my status. They have far more important matters to address. I want to make this as easy for them as I possibly can.

This is a tragedy. It is one of the great sorrows of my life. With the benefit of hindsight, I wish I had done more.

My goals now are to keep my commitments to my players and staff and finish the season with dignity and determination. And then I will spend the rest of my life doing everything I can to help this University. "
 

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Did you type that without reading the statement?

"STATE COLLEGE, Pa. - I am absolutely devastated by the developments in this case. I grieve for the children and their families, and I pray for their comfort and relief.

I have come to work every day for the last 61 years with one clear goal in mind: To serve the best interests of this university and the young men who have been entrusted to my care. I have the same goal today.

That's why I have decided to announce my retirement effective at the end of this season. At this moment the Board of Trustees should not spend a single minute discussing my status. They have far more important matters to address. I want to make this as easy for them as I possibly can.

This is a tragedy. It is one of the great sorrows of my life. With the benefit of hindsight, I wish I had done more.

My goals now are to keep my commitments to my players and staff and finish the season with dignity and determination. And then I will spend the rest of my life doing everything I can to help this University. "

Yes I did. And that is all about Paterno.

The best thing to help that university is to step down and take the heat off the team.

Because when he enters that stadium, and everyone cheers, THAT is going to be the image of PSU to the world.......cheering a man that allowed/condoned child r*pe and molestation.

It's not fair, but that is what is going to happen. In no way, shape form or fashion should Joepa be allowed within 100 miles of that game.
 

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I guess we read different statements.

No, we didn't. In the end, his concern was for finishing out the season. Newsflash - honor and dignity went out the window over 10 years ago.

His statements about the victims are pretty token. He didn't show much concern when it was happening, and I'm not sure it resonates with him right now.

Had that been his son or grandson, do you think all of this would be playing out differently?

This is where the failure lays. Because he should be treating this the EXACT same way.
 
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