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See, I'm the opposite. First off, they should continue to be illegal at all levels below the professional level. But at the pro level, I think these are grown men making their own decisions. Some will choose not to, some will choose to use them. Considering all of the other things that are out there that are legal and could destroy their health, at least this one has some benefit to it.

If they were condoned in professional sports, you really think there'd be many -- if any -- players that didn't use them? I'd be shocked if any less than 95% weren't using.

Look at Bonds. He didn't want to juice and he was, hands down, the best baseball player on Earth, but he saw all the excitement the McGuire/Sosa HR race generated and that no one was saying shit and he said, "fuck it, I guess I should too."

Then there are the guys who have borderline MLB talent, the incentive to juice for them is massive.
 

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If they were condoned in professional sports, you really think there'd be many -- if any -- players that didn't use them? I'd be shocked if any less than 95% weren't using.

Look at Bonds. He didn't want to juice and he was, hands down, the best baseball player on Earth, but he saw all the excitement the McGuire/Sosa HR race generated and that no one was saying shit and he said, "fuck it, I guess I should too."

Then there are the guys who have borderline MLB talent, the incentive to juice for them is massive.

You're probably pretty close on the numbers that would. It's hard to say for certain because we don't know how many of the guys who are opposed to them are just opposed because it's currently against the rules.
 

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Just read the Cavs are having a veteran try out camp to find someone else to add to their roster. Some of the notable names listed were Mario Chalmers, Kick Hinrich and Lance Stephenson.

Please let it be Lance who wins.

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Just read the Cavs are having a veteran try out camp to find someone else to add to their roster. Some of the notable names listed were Mario Chalmers, Kick Hinrich and Lance Stephenson.

Please let it be Lance who wins.

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That was funny as hell when Stephenson did that.
 

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I get what you're saying. LeBron got way more personal than Chuck did. But Barkley said LeBron didn't want to compete.. that he wasn't a competitor.

To athletes, especially hard-working ones like LeBron... there isn't much worse you could say about them.


Well, he does have a history of wanting to play on stacked rosters.

Now that the Warriors have out-stacked the Cavs he's nervous.
 

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"I'm tired of biting my tongue," James said. "There's a new sheriff in town."


James has never bit his tongue.
While James is correct about Barkleys past, what does is have to do with this?

Gilbert has lived up to his word so far.
James should have no beef with him, and if he did/does, there was no reason for it to become public.

Running to the media, or use of social media to spew your every though is not biting your tongue, is it?
Basically this rant just proved Barkley's point in case- a whiney cry baby.
 

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It was fun to get to see a Cavs game in person for the first time in quite awhile... but the fact is the Cavs do not look like anything like a title contender right now.

Harrison Barnes turned into Kobe fucking bryant last night, and Yogi Ferrell looked like Gary Payton. Game after game, it feels like the other team is playing way above their heads... which likely just means that the Cavs defense is garbage.
:lol: At Harrison Barnes turned in Kobe Bryant
 

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Yeah the fact that Barkley said "My top 5 is never gonna change" is just stupid. That was literally his reason for why LeBron isn't top 5, when Bill Simmons asked him to explain.
I don't see why that should bother LBJ so much. It's Barkley's choice who he wants on his top 5 list. This is the stupidest thing to be mad about IMO. Just shows the immaturity of LBJ. Not everyone is going to love him.
 

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why wouldnt he?

like lebron said- he needs the ratings- its what his job is

i loved the fact that lebron said he knows barkley wanted to retire years ago but couldnt - hes "stuck in that chair"...lol.....

and dont get me wrong- ithink barkley has some very valid points at times.....this should be very entertaining. lol.
The problem there is that Barkley is "in that chair" because he wants to be. He's already retired from his career- remember?
 

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The problem there is that Barkley is "in that chair" because he wants to be. He's already retired from his career- remember?

I don't want to speak for Wiggy, but it seems to me he was saying that Barkley is stuck in that chair because he needs the money.
 

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So Lebron never actually explained why Barkley was wrong(because he was right). He just threw it off as Barkley being a hater. Lebron took it wayy too far in my opinion, but at the least I've always said that I'm sick of him being passive aggressive, and maybe this is the end of that
Well he needed someone to take his anger out on. We saw what happened when he blamed his team mates & the Cavs FO. :heh:
 

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Lebron is kind of unique in that he's a star that really NEEDS other good players around him to stay on that top level. Hear me out.

Lebron is not a natural "take over the game" type of superstar. He's one that is more cerebral than most and 99.9% of the time, he makes the right play to the right guy, who needs to do his job and produce. We've seen him be a dominant force in games and just take over, going to the hoop at will, but I don't think that's a sustainable model for him. He's more Scottie than MJ. He's more Magic than Kobe. He's got a unique skill set that is not fully utilized unless he has people around him to do their roles.

Lebron took really undermanned Cavs teams in his first tenure to the finals. But he saw that he couldn't do it alone. TBH no one could with those rosters. Upon joining Miami, his first loss in the finals, he played incredibly well, but received all kinds of shit for still losing. Which in my opinion was not even slightly warranted.

Lebron has realized that in order for him to be a champion, he needs guys who are going to pull their weight and do the little things that put them over the top. I understand where he's coming from and believe him in that they could probably use more, but I 100% disagree with the way he's went about it.

Bitching about it in public and not being able to understand why you're getting bounce back for your initial comments is ridiculous.
 
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"He doesn't want to compete."

Barkley's comments were stupid. He was right to call LeBron whiny and to criticize him for talking about it publicly... but as soon as he got into "LeBron has to have all the best players. He always has to be the favorite. He doesn't want to compete". That was wrong, imo. And it was stupid cause LeBron was talking about filling an empty roster spot with a role player.

Shaq immediately called him out for it, too, and he was right.
Barkley was really asking if he doesn't want to compete because of his constant whining about having "great" players. Given his past record (when he fled his home town to team up with 2 All Stars to dominate the league) I can understand the question.
 

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lol

I'd take Prime Chuck, but Barkley these days needs help whipping his ass he's so out of shape.

LeBron also visits the lab on a yearly basis, dude is juiced to the gills, his testosterone levels are probably similar to a prime Arnold.


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I have no doubt he's juiced to the gills. :heh:
 
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So what that this is an internet forum? The fact you have no proof & stated even if you did you wouldn't post it says it all. And no, if you did have legit proof of this I wouldn't say you're full of shit.
Well there was no legal proof of Kobe raping that nasty chic that slept with multiple men on the same night- yet you still call him a rapist.
 
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