Multiple Sources reporting Cousins signed or tagged again next year

[kbso83432]

Washington Redskins

Good read. Skins trying to keep Kirk's weapons.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

The only question left for Kirk Cousins: ‘How much?’

Very interesting take on the whole situation. According to this article a lot of this revolves around the fact that most of the Redskins money will be tied up in the offense. If they move forward with this philosophy the defense will need to be done cheaper mainly via the draft and cheaper FAs. I guess that in this era a lot of teams are built in this manner. You really can't afford to have both a top notch offense and defense - you have to compromise somewhere.

I realize that they paid big $$ to Norman but that was a unique situation.

 

[skinsdad62]

The only question left for Kirk Cousins: ‘How much?’

Very interesting take on the whole situation. According to this article a lot of this revolves around the fact that most of the Redskins money will be tied up in the offense. If they move forward with this philosophy the defense will need to be done cheaper mainly via the draft and cheaper FAs. I guess that in this era a lot of teams are built in this manner. You really can't afford to have both a top notch offense and defense - you have to compromise somewhere.

I realize that they paid big $$ to Norman but that was a unique situation.

i think we could sign one impact FA after signing our key guys

 

[reptec101]

Our offense is as good as any team in the league... actually better. With the uncertainty of Doctson they have to resign Jackson. Again, not a big cap guy but im sure they will lock up kirk before he goes through another season under a tag. Spread his money out over 6 plus years and keep this boat afloat. We finally have a QB that's actually pretty good.... can't piss him off and allow him to walk.

 

[Sharkinva]

Our offense is as good as any team in the league... actually better. With the uncertainty of Doctson they have to resign Jackson. Again, not a big cap guy but im sure they will lock up kirk before he goes through another season under a tag. Spread his money out over 6 plus years and keep this boat afloat. We finally have a QB that's actually pretty good.... can't piss him off and allow him to walk.

Makes no sense from a spread out point to go longer than five years, thats the longest amount of time you can prorate signing bonus in any case. So guys who sign a 6-7 year deal know that the last two years are basically monopoly money.

Its not impossible for us to resign Jackson, Garcon, Davis, Baker, Cousins and the handful of others we need to resign and still stay under the cap. The question is, do we want to resign Jackson and Garcon to one year deals which will be very expensive, or three year deals where we give them a good chunk of Bonus money, knowing that we will eat some in later years??

With roll over money and cuts, I got us at right around $65 million in cap space before the Kirk deal. So its not can we do it, its how much in future years do we want to commit to the 2017 roster.

 

[eaglesnut]

25+ per year now.

 

[reptec101]

I didn't like the DJax signing when it happened cause I thought same ol skins,,, picking up a star from anther team looking for a payday. ... but I love it now. He's been a great edition and quite the compliment to a guy who's throwing it to him. I hope they find a way to keep him and I hope Jackson wants to stay. Yea he only gives you 10 to 12 games a year but when he's in there it gives us a dynamic thats hard to stop. Not sure I see that same dynamic with even a healthy Doc. This off season HAS to be ALL about defense. I'm looking at 80 percent of our picks on the defensive side... plus free agency. In a nut shell,,, we need to sign KC, Keep Djax,,, (Garcon can bolt) and address defensive side. If Doc proves to be a stud then we have him and Jackson spreading the field for Crowder and even Kelly. Pumped about this team and it's future. With KC we have a chance to win every game. When have we ever said that about a QB? Oh yea... RG3.

but trust me... KC more glamour than glitter.

 

[skinsdad62]

I didn't like the DJax signing when it happened cause I thought same ol skins,,, picking up a star from anther team looking for a payday. ... but I love it now. He's been a great edition and quite the compliment to a guy who's throwing it to him. I hope they find a way to keep him and I hope Jackson wants to stay. Yea he only gives you 10 to 12 games a year but when he's in there it gives us a dynamic thats hard to stop. Not sure I see that same dynamic with even a healthy Doc. This off season HAS to be ALL about defense. I'm looking at 80 percent of our picks on the defensive side... plus free agency. In a nut shell,,, we need to sign KC, Keep Djax,,, (Garcon can bolt) and address defensive side. If Doc proves to be a stud then we have him and Jackson spreading the field for Crowder and even Kelly. Pumped about this team and it's future. With KC we have a chance to win every game. When have we ever said that about a QB? Oh yea... RG3.

but trust me... KC more glamour than glitter.

i think garcon is the better value but i think we can keep both

 

[BeaReylo]

Kirk Cousins isn't a better QB than Robert Griffin III.

Ah yes - comparisons from the past.

The comments about INTs are fair enough but a lot of crap beyond that.

To this day I still find it hilarious how some of the fanbase lambasted Shanahan for drafting Cousins.

 

[gkekoa]

If we keep PG and DJ, how do we afford JC who has outplayed both.

 

[Sharkinva]

If we keep PG and DJ, how do we afford JC who has outplayed both.

Crowder is signed through 2018. We are currently projected to have $126M and some change in 2019.

Some how Im not seeing an issue here.

 

[j_y19]

The difference between signing both DJ and PG could come down to what happens with KC. If they have to tag him again this year, that could ding the cap enough that they can't afford both. But if they can sign him and structure it in a way that the cap hit this year is not so bad, then they might be able to pull it off. The challenge is that they have to sign KC fairly quickly as these 2 WRs will garner early attention in FA. This is why I bet they hammer out a deal with KC and sign it as soon as the league permits. A lot of other personnel actions depend upon what they do with KC, so this issue will be priority 1.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

I'm a fan of both but I don't see any way both return. If I were to bet DJax is the one who will leave, he wants to be a bigger part of the offense and who can blame him? But I tell you what, no way did I see him being here 3 years with no major issues.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Makes no sense from a spread out point to go longer than five years, thats the longest amount of time you can prorate signing bonus in any case. So guys who sign a 6-7 year deal know that the last two years are basically monopoly money.

Its not impossible for us to resign Jackson, Garcon, Davis, Baker, Cousins and the handful of others we need to resign and still stay under the cap. The question is, do we want to resign Jackson and Garcon to one year deals which will be very expensive, or three year deals where we give them a good chunk of Bonus money, knowing that we will eat some in later years??

With roll over money and cuts, I got us at right around $65 million in cap space before the Kirk deal. So its not can we do it, its how much in future years do we want to commit to the 2017 roster.

Read the article that I posted. Even if you can sign all of these guys you risk crippling your defense somewhat. Now you could just acknowledge that you are going to mainly just rely on your offense & a so-so defense. You could also basically put all of your faith in very young guys on defense (w/ a sprinkling of vets). However - you then have to deal w/ the mistakes typically made by very young players & also somewhat of a lack of talent on the other side.

These are all tough decisions & it is not always as simple as folks from the outside like to believe. The better option may be to let either Jackson or Garcon walk especially if you believe that Doctson can contribute next season. Interesting times ahead.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

25+ per year now.

They will work out a long term deal & it will also come w/ a big price tag but it can be adjusted somewhat by year. This is the price of having a good QB. Happens to all teams at some pt that have a decent QB. The alternative is much worse in most cases.

 

[j_y19]

I'm a fan of both but I don't see any way both return. If I were to bet DJax is the one who will leave, he wants to be a bigger part of the offense and who can blame him? But I tell you what, no way did I see him being here 3 years with no major issues.

Tend to agree with you, if we lose one, it will be Djax. He will probably garner a bigger contract and, as you say, probably wants a more featured role. Honestly, between is injuries and his lack of effectiveness in the red zone, I'm just not sure he is worth top WR money.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Tend to agree with you, if we lose one, it will be Djax. He will probably garner a bigger contract and, as you say, probably wants a more featured role. Honestly, between is injuries and his lack of effectiveness in the red zone, I'm just not sure he is worth top WR money.

Either I'm getting smarter or you're getting dumber because we tend to agree a lot these days.

 

[eaglesnut]

If Cousins is truly legit then you are fine with Crowder, Doctson and Reed as weapons. Just have to make sure that Reed has a good young backup since his injury issues continue to pop up. A real RB and keeping Bill Callahan around will round out the offense then you can spend money on defense.

Hate to see a decent blueprint for building this thing, hope you guys screw it up!

 

[Sharkinva]

I think we lose Jackson.. not because we wont be able to fit him under the cap, but because despite his needed presence in the offense. We can get a fast WR with good hands cheaper in the draft who might stand a chance of staying healthy for 16 games. Jackson primary role is the fast guy on the edge to run the fly route and go catch it. JAckson on a one year deal doesnt make sense from a cap stand point. JAckson on a three year deal only makes sense if we dont think we either have, or can find his replacement in a younger player with similar abilities.

I think Garcon will be back because we need that tuff possessions inside WR that he is.

 

[j_y19]

I think we lose Jackson.. not because we wont be able to fit him under the cap, but because despite his needed presence in the offense. We can get a fast WR with good hands cheaper in the draft who might stand a chance of staying healthy for 16 games. Jackson primary role is the fast guy on the edge to run the fly route and go catch it. JAckson on a one year deal doesnt make sense from a cap stand point. JAckson on a three year deal only makes sense if we dont think we either have, or can find his replacement in a younger player with similar abilities.

I think Garcon will be back because we need that tuff possessions inside WR that he is.

Hmm. It seems we are all in agreement about Jackson. Which probably means he will resign with us for the largest contract every given a WR and then get injured for the season!