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Seahawk fan sure gets but hurt easy. After Wilson and Lynch what Seattle offensive player should defenses really be concerned about? Oh and where is Lynch?
 

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I think they are decent on Offense, but I think a drop this year. I'm not a fan of Rawls really at all, not Baldwin for that matter as a #1 either. I think that changes your Offense assuming he is healthy. But, as long as you have Wilson you will be able to do enough to win with that defense.

Rawls is a different story. His vision and ability find open space behind and at the line is impressive. But I'm not completely sold on him because of the short season. And after the Hawks took 3 RBs in the draft, it's fair to say they feel the same way.
 
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Rawls is a different story. His vision and ability find open space behind and the line is impressive. But I'm not completely sold on him because of the short season. And after the Hawks took 3 RBs in the draft, it's fair to say they feel the same way.
Rawls? Let's see what he does when teams game plan for him. Troy Hamrick had many Cowboy fans excited as Smiths replacement, he sucked ass as THE back. As of right now it's Wilson and whoever else for Seattle's offense.
 

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I'm not a believer in Baldwin as a one either. But I don't think he'll need to be, Lockett is a much better player and a tough little shit. I think as long as he can provide a deep threat every play, the other guys will be able to produce underneath.
Assuming you are right that would be big for them. So i hope you are wrong!!!!
 

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Rawls? Let's see what he does when teams game plan for him. Troy Hamrick had many Cowboy fans excited as Smiths replacement, he sucked ass as THE back. As of right now it's Wilson and whoever else for Seattle's offense.

Dude, I just said he has some terrific qualities, but I'm not sold on him and the Hawks don't appear to be either at this point.

Calm down, you're trying too hard.
 

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Dude, I just said he has some terrific qualities, but I'm not sold on him and the Hawks don't appear to be either at this point.

Calm down, you're trying too hard.
I simply asked who outside of Wilson should defenses be concerned about, you then brought Rawls to the table. So I guess the answer is Wilson and ??????
 

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I simply asked who outside of Wilson should defenses be concerned about, you then brought Rawls to the table. So I guess the answer is Wilson and ??????

I wasn't answering your question when I was talking about Rawls. You're obviously looking for any response so you can play it up.

But to go ahead and answer it, I don't know. But I didn't know last year either and they were damn good. As long as they have Wilson's effeciency, it may not matter as much you seem to hope.
 

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You might want to look at facts and stats before you call Tony Romo names.......


NFL all time ...career.....4th Quarter Comebacks........Tony Romo is 14th
that is ahead of :

Roger Staubach
Troy Aikman
Steve Young
Russell Wilson
Aaron Rogers
Kurt Warner
to name a few

NFL all time.... career....Game Winning Drives..........Tony Romo is 16th
that is ahead of:

Johnny Unitas
Terry Bradshaw
Aikman and Staubach
a billion others

NFL all time.... career......Passer rating in 4th Quarter..........Tony Romo is second..... at 102.2
only Aaron Rogers is ahead of Romo
and in the last 2 minutes of the 4th quarter, Romo is better than Rogers

And in overall career passer rating Tony Romo is third in NFL history

Romo the choker nickname is vastly over-rated. Look at their record with and without him.
 

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Personally.....I would have taken Booker later and platoon'ed him with McFadden. Surprisingly, D-Mac had a really good season with Dallas. They didn't need to get Elliott as early as they did.
 

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I think the point is that RB's being a dime a dozen where you can find high quality guys even as UDFA's like that of CJ Anderson who made a pro bowl just 2 years ago and the leading rusher of the playoffs this past season. It is one of the few positions that every year seems to produce high quality players even late into the draft. Compare that to other positions that usually past the first few rounds very few high quality players are found and it just makes sense to invest in the key positions that cost the most later down the road. Throw in then the high percentage of RB's that don't make it to the 2nd contract because of injury issues and the team needing probably 2 quality RB's anyway just again limits the value of the position.

That doesn't mean that Elliot will end up a bad pick and won't be able to impact that team but I just think you could still draft a very good RB later in the draft while also getting a high quality player like Ramsey at a position of need and value.

Agreed 100%. The Cowboys have McFadden and adding a player like Ramsey was a much bigger need imo.
 

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I simply asked who outside of Wilson should defenses be concerned about, you then brought Rawls to the table. So I guess the answer is Wilson and ??????
Who outs of Wilson should the defense be concerned about? Everyone, because the Seahawks spread the wealth. Don't need a Dez or Julio Jones, the WR Corp the Seahawks have right now is capable of going down field in big chunks. As for Rawls, looked good in limited action last year, but need to see how he does this year. Can he hold up to the hits? Seahawks have brought a whole wave of reinforcements in, to give him a hand. Think the offense will be fine, once the OL has enough time to jell. Lots of changes on that OL, can't expect it to look great right out of gate.
 

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Personally.....I would have taken Booker later and platoon'ed him with McFadden. Surprisingly, D-Mac had a really good season with Dallas. They didn't need to get Elliott as early as they did.
Most Cowboy fans will agree with you, my first choice would have been Buckner, but there was no noise about him being on the Dallas radar, so my wish list went Ramsey. I'd have loved Wentz, but did NOT want to trade up for him. The way I justify Elliot is I didn't think McFadden would come close to the numbers he did last year so maybe the team is concerned about him doing two years in a row. The Elliot and Smith picks are about the future more so than 2016.
 

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on the Seattle side, I think Lockett will be a real deal on offense.

On the Cowboys side. If Zeke can turn into anything close to a Tony Dorsett. I will love this pick.
Most wanted a Defensive player. But it is not like the pick was a bad pick. I think Zeke will be worthy of the pick.
Also keep in mind. When you have a hard to stop running game. A it opens up the offense, & B helps the defense. I fully expect him to become better than Murray. In which case this is a worthy pick, & I can live with picking him over a safety.
 

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I wouldn't bet against them, with their D it's is quite possible they do add to their SB's

The o-line needs to step up 100x's from last year. Wilson (who's a great escape artist) won't survive another year of hits if that line is bottom 3 in the league again.
 

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Seahawk fan sure gets but hurt easy. After Wilson and Lynch what Seattle offensive player should defenses really be concerned about? Oh and where is Lynch?

Heh. Yeah, the histrionics out of Seattle fans in this thread is out of control!
 

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Heh. Yeah, the histrionics out of Seattle fans in this thread is out of control!
Pretty funny actually. They get a couple of tempered rebuttals and it's " wow, these guys get butt hurt so easily.":rolleyes2:
 

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The Cowboys are like a super hot woman with bad breath. At first glace they are really impressive but when you get a closer look the stink is revealed. Last year showed how reliant they are on an aging and breaking down Tony Romo.

Guess this is the best post I can find about why Dak is the ROY and considered highly for the MVP.
 
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