OT: Bullshitting at the Barbershop

[sbb122]

Jesse James Thomas Charged: Sombrero, Boxing Glove-Clad Drunk Man Jumped On Cop Car

 

[Eddie_Shack]

Jesse James Thomas Charged: Sombrero, Boxing Glove-Clad Drunk Man Jumped On Cop Car

Bedroom eyes...

 

[SLY]

Girls are developing way too early now. I had to go into the mall to grab something, and completely got eye fucked by a chick, who was very pretty, but of questionable age. Given the time of day, and the girl she was with, she had to be underage. But she def looked like she could be legal.

Where the fuck were these girls when I was in H.S.? Must be something in the cafeteria food or some shit.

 

[Winged_Wheel88]

Girls are developing way too early now. I had to go into the mall to grab something, and completely got eye fucked by a chick, who was very pretty, but of questionable age. Given the time of day, and the girl she was with, she had to be underage. But she def looked like she could be legal.

Where the fuck were these girls when I was in H.S.? Must be something in the cafeteria food or some shit.

Unfortunately they seem to be maturing at a much later age. The college chicks around here don't look like they have any idea what they want in life.

 

[SLY]

23 is my ideal age for women now. I've dated younger, i've date older... I get along best with a girl who is a little younger than me.

 

[Eddie_Shack]

I like my girls 75+. No teeth, lots of involuntary shaking, and they're in bed by 8:30PM so I can have a nightlife.

 

[SLY]

Hispanics spell out why labels don't fit – In America - CNN.com Blogs

(CNN) - Public debate is raging over how to describe George Zimmerman, the man who admitted shooting unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin. Is he Hispanic? Or white? Or both? Should his identity even be raised in the news?

Amid the whirlwind of controversy comes a new survey about why the label "Hispanic" doesn't always fit those it attempts to describe.

A majority of Hispanics or Latinos don't fully embrace those terms; instead, they most often identify themselves by their family's country of origin, said a Pew Hispanic Center study released Wednesday.

The report used the two terms Hispanic and Latino interchangeably, but Latino is often preferred by many because it is more inclusive, said Allert Brown-Gort, associate director of the Institute for Latino Studies at Notre Dame University. Latino includes everyone from Latin America while Hispanic - descended from a Spanish-speaking land or culture - may not.

It has been almost four decades since Hispanic and Latino surfaced in the cultural language of the United States. The federal government mandated them to categorize Americans who traced their roots to Spanish-speaking countries.

But the Pew survey found that only 24% of Hispanics prefer a pan-ethnic label like Hispanic or Latino. A majority - 51% - said they use national identity.


Carmen George, a business owner in Marietta, Georgia, who emigrated from Mexico 26 years ago, accepts the usage of "Hispanic." But she doesn't like it.

"I do not consider myself Hispanic," she said, explaining that the term does not exist where she's from.

"In Mexico, there are no Hispanics. In the Dominican Republic, there are no Hispanics. In Chile, there are no Hispanics. In Mexico, there are Mexicans; in the Dominican Republic, Dominicans; and in Chile, Chileans," she said.

George is among the 51% of Latinos who, when filling out official forms that ask about race, answer "other."
She has almost lived equal amounts of time in Mexico and the United States and feels a strong loyalty to both, she said.

The Pew survey found that 95% of Hispanics found it very important or somewhat important for future generations to be able to speak Spanish.

George's business, De Colors Spanish Bookstore, offers Spanish classes to all ages, though she has a different reason for advocating Spanish. She teaches Spanish for the intellectual benefits of speaking two languages more than for cultural purposes, she said.

Of the 1,220 Latino adults surveyed in all 50 states and Washington, D.C., 82% said they speak Spanish. Language was one of their strong shared connections.

Culture, on the other hand, was not.

By a ratio of more than two-to-one (69% versus 29%), those surveyed said Latinos in the United States have many different cultures rather than a common culture.

"It took me 10 years to understand that I was Hispanic," said Brown-Gort, who grew up in Mexico and didn't understand the U.S. categorization."The reality is we as human beings have multiple identities," he said.

Sometimes Brown-Gort identifies himself as Latino. Other times, the native Mexican who has lived in Indiana for 13 years says he's a Hoosier. When he travels abroad, he might call himself an American.

The U.S. Census Bureau introduced the question about Hispanic origin in 1970. A version of it has been asked ever since, and the responses are based on an individual's self-identification.

The latest census in 2010 counted 50 million of America's 300 million people as Hispanic. Mexicans are the largest group, at almost 21 million people, followed by Puerto Ricans with nearly 5 million and Cubans with more than 1 million.

About half of those in the Pew poll considered themselves to be very different from the typical American. Only 21% said they use the term American most often to describe their identity.

U.S.-born Hispanics expressed a stronger sense of affinity with other Americans than with immigrant Hispanics, a trait that is perhaps true of all ethnic groups.
Questions of identity are most salient in regions near the U.S.-Mexico border, where two cultures, languages and customs blend.

In the border city of Laredo, Texas, a passerby or drive-thru operator is more likely to greet a stranger in Spanish than English.

Border residents here don't equivocate when it comes to how they identify themselves, said Xochitl Mora, a Laredo resident who works for the city.

She didn't grow up in Laredo and prefers to identify as a Mexican-American, "but most around here say just Mexican."

"Here it's different, because people identify absolutely with their Mexican roots," she said.

But most are very proud to be American, too.

The city holds one of the largest and most festive Washington's Birthday celebrations in the country.

"It's a very interesting dynamic because people here almost have two psyches - their Mexican half and their American half," Mora said.

As for Zimmerman's identity, many Americans said that his race was raised simply to frame the story of Trayvon Martin's shooting in racial terms. Zimmerman's mother is from Peru, and he identifies himself as Hispanic, which says nothing about a person's race, but he was at first labeled a white Hispanic by some media outlets, including CNN.

Most Hispanics in the Pew survey did not see themselves fitting into the standard racial categories used by the U.S. Census Bureau. Just more than half - 51% - of Latinos identified themselves as "some other race" or volunteered "Hispanic/Latino." Another 36% said they were white, and 3% said they were black.

"I've written about the thorny subjects of race and ethnicity for nearly a quarter century, and I rarely hear this term," columnist Ruben Navarrette Jr. wrote on CNN.com about referring to Zimmerman as a white Hispanic.

"We might have been able to see this coming given that there is no Hispanic race and Hispanics come in all colors."

A. Well, welcome to America. Here we have a hispanic category. Have a problem? Leave.

B. I am German, English/Scottish/Irish and Polish. I have a very mixed culture in my family. As do the French, Russians and Dutch. However we are all White. Just because you may have different cultures amongst your latin backgrounds, you are still under the category hispanic here in America. Again, have a problem with it? Leave.

C. As it should be.

D. lol

This country is too soft.

 

[elocomotive]

This country is too soft.

What does a discussion on the usefulness and meaning of racial/ethnic labels have to do with being "soft?"

This country is not too soft, it's too dumb.

 

[SLY]

What does a discussion on the usefulness and meaning of racial/ethnic labels have to do with being "soft?"

This country is not too soft, it's too dumb.

Yep. That too. They chose to come here, they should abide by the categories we have set in place. Every country is different. We have a hispanic category, that people of spanish origin fall under... If they have a problem with that they do not need to be here. Plain and simple.

 

[elocomotive]

Yep. That too. They chose to come here, they should abide by the categories we have set in place. Every country is different. We have a hispanic category, that people of spanish origin fall under... If they have a problem with that they do not need to be here. Plain and simple.

So if someone disagrees with a stupid label, they should leave the country?

If someone called you Transitalian because you were of European dissent, might you not think that "label" really make sense? If you thought it didn't make sense, does that make you less American or mean you should leave the country? A little extreme.

Talk about xenophobic.

 

[SLY]

If I moved to a country, to better my life, and there so happened to be a category for my ethnic backgorund that I had to inherit. Whether I thought it made sense or not, so be it. I decided to move to that country, therefore you abide by whatever terminology they have set in place.

Who the fuck am I to challenge the terms they use being an immigrant?

 

[SLY]

And, I am no xenophobe. I do not fear illegal immigrants/immigrants who have issue with the U.S.A., I despise them.

 

[elocomotive]

If I moved to a country, to better my life, and there so happened to be a category for my ethnic backgorund that I had to inherit. Whether I thought it made sense or not, so be it. I decided to move to that country, therefore you abide by whatever terminology they have set in place.

Who the fuck am I to challenge the terms they use being an immigrant?

You are a citizen of this country with free fucking speech, that's who. It's just a Census label and a recent one at that. You challenge plenty of things the government does, does that mean you should leave the country?

 

[SLY]

You are a citizen of this country with free fucking speech, that's who. It's just a Census label and a recent one at that. You challenge plenty of things the government does, does that mean you should leave the country?

Nope. I was born here.

I am only referring to hispanic immigrants who have an issue with the label.

 

[SLY]

And while it may be a label used since 1970 here in the U.S., the term itself has been around far longer than that and has meaning. This isn't some made up word.

 

[filosofy29]

Hispanics spell out why labels don't fit – In America - CNN.com Blogs



A. Well, welcome to America. Here we have a hispanic category. Have a problem? Leave.

B. I am German, English/Scottish/Irish and Polish. I have a very mixed culture in my family. As do the French, Russians and Dutch. However we are all White. Just because you may have different cultures amongst your latin backgrounds, you are still under the category hispanic here in America. Again, have a problem with it? Leave.

C. As it should be.

D. lol

This country is too soft.

lol Jeff....dude, the "hispanics" in the quote you posted AND you need to go relax, take a breath, grab an ice cold beer and go sit outside in the sun for awhile. There are WAY bigger things in this life to get fired up about.

 

[dash]

There are two things I can't stand in this world: People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch

 

[SLY]

lol Jeff....dude, the "hispanics" in the quote you posted AND you need to go relax, take a breath, grab an ice cold beer and go sit outside in the sun for awhile. There are WAY bigger things in this life to get fired up about.

Someones gotta care.

 

[filosofy29]

Someones gotta care.

By posting on a message board?

 

[SLY]

May open other peoples eyes. I am vocal with my beliefs outside of SportsHoopla every day. Dont question me muddafucka.