Thursday Night Football: Panthers @ Broncos on NBC

[DJ]

Then most people would be wrong. He's inexperienced, yes, but calling him a rookie is wrong because he's not a rookie.

Not by baseball standards.

 

[DJ]

Well as usual Madden does their simulation of the game and they have the final score of the game being 13-6 Broncos winning. Now while yes it is Madden they honestly have been more accurate than people usually believe. Wouldn't surprise me if honestly a final score like that happened with either team coming out on top. 2 of the best defenses in the game by far slugging it out.

I'm for sure betting the UNDER 41. And pretty sure I take Carolina -3.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

easy there Mr.Goodell

That's 4 games for conduct detrimental to Moose

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

Well as usual Madden does their simulation of the game and they have the final score of the game being 13-6 Broncos winning. Now while yes it is Madden they honestly have been more accurate than people usually believe. Wouldn't surprise me if honestly a final score like that happened with either team coming out on top. 2 of the best defenses in the game by far slugging it out.

Nahhh, but the poll at the top of the page has Carolina winning 22-8-2??? I don't know WHAT to believe anymore

 

[cdumler7]

I'm for sure betting the UNDER 41. And pretty sure I take Carolina -3.

Well I agree with taking the Under but I guess we will agree to disagree on the Carolina at -3. Honestly everything that is being said on here is very close to what was said last year before the Super Bowl. Only difference is that of the QB talk going from "Manning has nothing left in the tank" to now "Siemian will get destroyed by this Carolina defense." I guess to me I look at the fact that we have seen many as you say "rookie" QB's actually come out early and have some success because teams don't know what to expect from them. I look at the fact that this is @MileHigh and if Cam thought our guys got off the LOS quick in the Super Bowl just wait until he is doing a silent count going against these tackles that were down right terrible last year in the Super Bowl. I look at the altitude and how many even elite/legendary QB's have come to Denver and been made to look human. So while I have gone back and forth on who wins this game I just don't think it is the foregone conclusion that so many on here seem to suggest.

 

[cdumler7]

Nahhh, but the poll at the top of the page has Carolina winning 22-8-2??? I don't know WHAT to believe anymore

It was about the same last year for the Super Bowl with the 8 votes mostly being Bronco fans or NFC South fans of other teams. On paper Carolina looks like the better team just because of the huge advantage at the QB position. People usually go with the known choice over the unknown. Just human instinct. I honestly have no clue what to expect from tonight's game.

 

[DJ]

Well I agree with taking the Under but I guess we will agree to disagree on the Carolina at -3. Honestly everything that is being said on here is very close to what was said last year before the Super Bowl. Only difference is that of the QB talk going from "Manning has nothing left in the tank" to now "Siemian will get destroyed by this Carolina defense." I guess to me I look at the fact that we have seen many as you say "rookie" QB's actually come out early and have some success because teams don't know what to expect from them. I look at the fact that this is @MileHigh and if Cam thought our guys got off the LOS quick in the Super Bowl just wait until he is doing a silent count going against these tackles that were down right terrible last year in the Super Bowl. I look at the altitude and how many even elite/legendary QB's have come to Denver and been made to look human. So while I have gone back and forth on who wins this game I just don't think it is the foregone conclusion that so many on here seem to suggest.

It's just my opinion.

I just think experience matters at QB. And I wish I could take Carolina straight up because I'm more confident in them winning overall than by 3.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

I'm interested to see how Denver's D-line looks. They lost Malik Jackson and Vance Walker. Trevathan was nice for run downs too behind them. If there's any kind of hole on Denver's D, it's running right at them. Big if.

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

It was about the same last year for the Super Bowl with the 8 votes mostly being Bronco fans or NFC South fans of other teams. On paper Carolina looks like the better team just because of the huge advantage at the QB position. People usually go with the known choice over the unknown. Just human instinct. I honestly have no clue what to expect from tonight's game.

Yeah, that's why I'll just stick with my original prediction of Panthers +70

 

[cdumler7]

It's just my opinion.

I just think experience matters at QB. And I wish I could take Carolina straight up because I'm more confident in them winning overall than by 3.

And that is a logical opinion. I just also know the Broncos actually love to be the underdog. They were the underdog 6 times last year and won 5 of them. I think the Chiefs game when Manning went out early in the game because of injury and had missed the entire week of practice was the only game we were underdogs and lost last year. Now given this is a new year so have to see if they respond and have the same mentality in those games.

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

I'm interested to see how Denver's D-line looks. They lost Malik Jackson and Vance Walker. Trevathan was nice for run downs too behind them. If there's any kind of hole on Denver's D, it's running right at them. Big if.

Did i say 70-0?

Because I meant 80

 

[Broncos6482]

Not by baseball standards.

Good thing we're talking football then.

 

[DJ]

Good thing we're talking football then.

You really consider no passes and 1 carry for -1 yard experienced?

GOODNESS.

 

[Broncos6482]

I'm interested to see how Denver's D-line looks. They lost Malik Jackson and Vance Walker. Trevathan was nice for run downs too behind them. If there's any kind of hole on Denver's D, it's running right at them. Big if.

Run defense definitely has the opportunity to be the defense's achilles heel. The loss of Walker during camp really dealt a blow to our depth. I'm hoping Crick and Gotsis can at least be serviceable enough to prevent it from becoming a major problem.

As for Trevathan, I loved Danny, but I don't expect Denver to miss a beat without him. Our depth at linebacker is fantastic, and developing late round/undrafted/unwanted guys into really good linebackers is something we've done well the last few year.

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

You really consider no passes and 1 carry for -1 yard experienced?

GOODNESS.

Careful, he's gonna show you his Championship ring!

 

[Broncos6482]

You really consider no passes and 1 carry for -1 yard experienced?

GOODNESS.

No, I wouldn't. In fact, I said the exact opposite.

Then most people would be wrong. He's inexperienced, yes, but calling him a rookie is wrong because he's not a rookie.

You can call him inexperienced because he is inexperienced, but you can't call him a rookie because he's not a rookie. I mean, I guess you could call him a rookie, but that would be wrong.

 

[cdumler7]

You really consider no passes and 1 carry for -1 yard experienced?

GOODNESS.

I think what he is talking about is the fact that he has experience with most of the guys in the locker room. That year of building relationships has been huge as quite a few players have said for a while now that they are wanting Siemian to win the job. Then you add in the fact that he isn't coming in having to learn the playbook on the fly but has it completely down and can just go out and play instead of having to think through the play.

 

[DJ]

 

[Moab]

Who replaces their losses better is the question...
Does Denver replace their NT, MLB, QB and CB better than Carolina replaces their DBs? Carolina also gets Benjamin back... I'm thinking Carolina's front 7 is the strength of the D...and their back end plays a relatively unknown or untested QB... that tells me to take the Panthers in this game... but I could be wrong...it's happened before

 

[cdumler7]

Who replaces their losses better is the question...
Does Denver replace their NT, MLB, QB and CB better than Carolina replaces their DBs? Carolina also gets Benjamin back... I'm thinking Carolina's front 7 is the strength of the D...and their back end plays a relatively unknown or untested QB... that tells me to take the Panthers in this game... but I could be wrong...it's happened before

I think you mean our DE as Sly Williams is our NT and is on the team. Also not sure what Corner we lost as our entire secondary is back this year.