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La'Mar Winston, Oregon Ducks 4-star pledge, tweets recruiting pitch to USC Trojans commits

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I have seen 3 decommits so far after Sarks firing.

Two 4* and a 5*
 

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Which is pretty much exactly what you're doing if you think you won't lose commits if you keep losing games.
USC bounces back problem solved. Apparently winston paying attention to the games. sc lost two games the could have won to stanford and washington. Oregon's defense has been a mess all season. Origins got one more loss MSU,Getting slammed by Utah and cousin it vs WSU. But who can blame hm for his fear SC is geared and will have a head coach. Propaganda social media fluff
 

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Which is pretty much exactly what you're doing if you think you won't lose commits if you keep losing games.


False.

Most recruits aren't picking their education based on a football team's win-loss record.
 

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Wait, football players pick schools for their education? Pretty sure those that do go to Stanford, not Oregon.
 

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Wait, football players pick schools for their education? Pretty sure those that do go to Stanford, not Oregon.

"We didn't come here to play school."

There are many reasons that recruits choose to go to a certain school. Win-loss record of the school's football team is probably at the bottom of most kids' lists.
 

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Wait, football players pick schools for their education? Pretty sure those that do go to Stanford, not Oregon.
And oddly enough oregon has highly ranked education department. 12th overall and 5th of public colleges.
Psych and clinical psych are also solid
 

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"We didn't come here to play school."

There are many reasons that recruits choose to go to a certain school. Win-loss record of the school's football team is probably at the bottom of most kids' lists.
So all of those kids that came after Oregon started winning, and before the facilities were rebuilt came there for the cheerleaders?

You are fooling yourself. It matters to more of them than you think. They dream of the limelight and being a part of something big. If the ducks end up not making a bowl it will have some impact. Kill all of the class? No, of course not, but it will have impact. Utah going on a massive winning streak will aid them as well.

We see flips every year after teams end up either more down or up than expected.
 

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So all of those kids that came after Oregon started winning, and before the facilities were rebuilt came there for the cheerleaders?

You are fooling yourself. It matters to more of them than you think. They dream of the limelight and being a part of something big. If the ducks end up not making a bowl it will have some impact. Kill all of the class? No, of course not, but it will have impact. Utah going on a massive winning streak will aid them as well.

We see flips every year after teams end up either more down or up than expected.
In theory. if that were the case then oregon wouldnt be that far down coming off 2 NC appearances in 4 years.
 

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No one said there aren't kids that gravitate to a particular coach. Every coach is great at selling their program and telling kids why just them coming would help them turn things around or whatnot. Those kids flip only when coaches move around which is what is happening now to some of those USC commits. Doesn't mean they will all latch onto the next coach and stick with them no matter what. They have already proven to have no school loyalty as it is.
 

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In theory. if that were the case then oregon wouldnt be that far down coming off 2 NC appearances in 4 years.
Not making a bowl at all can/will scare some recruits that the program is not at that same level anymore. Don't worry, the facilities are still there and the million uniforms are all hanging in the closet. You have what you need to attract the Oregon kind of kid. Just not sure that USC flips over Sark leaving qualify.
 

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So all of those kids that came after Oregon started winning, and before the facilities were rebuilt came there for the cheerleaders?

You are fooling yourself. It matters to more of them than you think. They dream of the limelight and being a part of something big. If the ducks end up not making a bowl it will have some impact. Kill all of the class? No, of course not, but it will have impact. Utah going on a massive winning streak will aid them as well.

We see flips every year after teams end up either more down or up than expected.


I'm not fooling myself at all. Oregon has played in two national Championships and 3 Rose Bowl's of late and they still can't get a great QB to commit.

We see flips every year regardless of the product that is put out on the field.

A good recruiter can sell ice cubes to an Eskimo.Hell, Shaq Thompson went to Washington and not because of the education or the team's performance.
 

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I'm not fooling myself at all. Oregon has played in two national Championships and 3 Rose Bowl's of late and they still can't get a great QB to commit.

We see flips every year regardless of the product that is put out on the field.

A good recruiter can sell ice cubes to an Eskimo.Hell, Shaq Thompson went to Washington and not because of the education or the team's performance.
I spoke clearly of the Shaq types. He might have came here because no one was in his way to shine from day 1. Smaller depth chart leaves more room for quickly getting in the lineup. But he's just one of those ones I said get into a coach and buy into their BS. UW lost quite a few kids after Sark left. Some were thrown off the team because they had already checked out but lacked the courage to leave on their own.

When you are going after the kinds of kids that can go pretty much anywhere, winning matters. I'm not talking about obscure 3* kids. Mainstream 4's and 5's flip all the time.
 

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So all of those kids that came after Oregon started winning, and before the facilities were rebuilt came there for the cheerleaders?

You are fooling yourself. It matters to more of them than you think. They dream of the limelight and being a part of something big. If the ducks end up not making a bowl it will have some impact. Kill all of the class? No, of course not, but it will have impact. Utah going on a massive winning streak will aid them as well.

We see flips every year after teams end up either more down or up than expected.

Ducks fans are hilarious. First they tell us that Oregon wouldn't skip a beat without Mariota. Then, when FCS schools are dropping 40+ points on them, they tell us their defense is legit.

Now, they say wins and losses won't effect recruiting.

And people call USC fans delusional.
 
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