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Game Thread: #7 OREGON DUCKS vs usc trojans 8PM EST FOX

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Meyer never said that Herbert was good. "Urban Meyer said he spoke with NFL Scouts friends of his and Herbert is the highest ranked NFL ready QB in next years draft".

So you literally rebut my statement with confirming scouts know as much about who with be a successful QB that you and I do?
 

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Aren't both Trubusky and Goff starting NFL QBs?

One is a massive bust, the other is a bust that the media hasn’t realized he cannot play without Todd Gurley or Cooper Kupp. Goff is a nice little QB who enjoyed 1 1/2 seasons as a NFL starter. Essentially a poor mans Sam Bradford.
 

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So you literally rebut my statement with confirming scouts know as much about who with be a successful QB that you and I do?
Yes I do rebut your statement, as you and I are not NFL scouts and don't know what to look for in a future NFL QB.
 

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One is a massive bust, the other is a bust that the media hasn’t realized he cannot play without Todd Gurley or Cooper Kupp. Goff is a nice little QB who enjoyed 1 1/2 seasons as a NFL starter. Essentially a poor mans Sam Bradford.
Yeah the SportsHoopla is full of opinions. I can respect your opinion, but both Trubusky and Goff are starting NFL QBs.
 

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Yes I do rebut your statement, as you and I are not NFL scouts and don't know what to look for in a future NFL QB.

So we are on the exact level as NFL scouts? Since they seem to know who is good and all yet they are wrong the same percentage as you and I? Herbert is a less athletic Alex Smith. Won’t win you a game but won’t lose you a game either. Hence now why in his Senior season he has won exactly 2 road games against a team with a pulse.
 

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Yeah the SportsHoopla is full of opinions. I can respect your opinion, but both Trubusky and Goff are starting NFL QBs.

So was Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Russell. Trent Dilfer was a Super Bowl MVP.
 

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So we are on the exact level as NFL scouts? Since they seem to know who is good and all yet they are wrong the same percentage as you and I? Herbert is a less athletic Alex Smith. Won’t win you a game but won’t lose you a game either. Hence now why in his Senior season he has won exactly 2 road games against a team with a pulse.
Herbert can't play defense and that is what cost them the game against Auburn. Oregon has won every game they have played this year, except the Auburn game.
 

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So was Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Russell. Trent Dilfer was a Super Bowl MVP.
How long was Leaf, and Russell a starting NFL QB and did they play in a Super Bowl?
 

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So we are on the exact level as NFL scouts? Since they seem to know who is good and all yet they are wrong the same percentage as you and I? Herbert is a less athletic Alex Smith. Won’t win you a game but won’t lose you a game either. Hence now why in his Senior season he has won exactly 2 road games against a team with a pulse.
How many good QBs are playing in the NFL?
 

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How long was Leaf, and Russell a starting NFL QB and did they play in a Super Bowl?

The point? Dilfer was more successful than Trubisky or Goff so again the point?
 

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Herbert can't play defense and that is what cost them the game against Auburn. Oregon has won every game they have played this year, except the Auburn game.

No, Herbert’s inability to score in the red zone in the first half is what cost Oregon the game. Doesn’t matter if all of your receivers are out, a top pick in the draft scores touchdowns in the redzone. Let alone throw the worst Hail Mary in the history of football.
 

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No, Herbert’s inability to score in the red zone in the first half is what cost Oregon the game. Doesn’t matter if all of your receivers are out, a top pick in the draft scores touchdowns in the redzone. Let alone throw the worst Hail Mary in the history of football.
Okay I give up. :-)
 

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The point? Dilfer was more successful than Trubisky or Goff so again the point?
Yes Dilfer was a mediocre (game manager) QB that played on a great defensive team, that won a Super Bowl.
 

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Yes Dilfer was a mediocre (game manager) QB that played on a great defensive team, that won a Super Bowl.

So Herbert hasn’t been successful through his entire Oregon career until he got the best defense (fuck overrated Utah) is different from Dilfer how?
 

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Okay I give up. :-)

Not trying to be a dick but I don’t see it with him. Just like I didn’t see it with Rosen. Goff on the other hand is like a lot Air Raid QB’s. Can look great but also look terrible which he did last year once Kupp got hurt and has essentially the entire season this year. Herbert needs to be drafted by the Packers or Chargers to be a successful NFL QB.
 
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