When Will Sam Bradford Be Benched For Mark Sanchez?

[old duke]

Sign a couple of free agent OL's; then draft a QB in the 1st round.

 

[WIZ]

Haha please don't go Qb in the first.

 

[old duke]

Only if Chip gets OL needs filled in FA, and if he doesn't see SB or MS as long time solutions. Anyway Wiz, I'm bored today, and just surmising. No big deal.

 

[_phiLLies_]

hopefully soon, because he's borderline trash. he makes the occasional nice throw.. which oddly enough, players seem to drop.. but not much aside from that. i've never seen a QB on any level just blatantly stare down one receiver to the point where he either has to force it in with no chance or finally just throw it away. to not even consider looking away for another option, even just for a second, is mind blowing.

he consistently misses open receivers with brick balls in the ground. he's not hitting guys in stride. he straight up looks like a hurt version of foles. i can believe some of these things are just getting back into action, a new team, etc.. but the way he stares down one side/one receiver and just throws slop is a major red flag that cannot be legitimately fixed.

 

[old duke]

Remember in preseason when we wanted Chip to sign him to a long term contract?

 

[WIZ]

you ALWAYS love to take the minority, low odds view. LOL. Not right much, but when you did - big pay day. LOL :p

But as Wiz says, if we kick NYJ's butt - this becomes a horse of another color. I wouldn't put money on it tho. Would you?? (got any money on this weeks game wiz??)

Thanks for the inspiration. I barely bet games anymore but took Kentucky yesterday and the Eagles today. Bam and bam. Thanks again.

 

[PhillyGreen]

I look at some of these threads and laugh because it is par for the course when it comes to Eagles fans. Some are never happy no matter what. The past couple weeks there have been calls for getting Foles back. We don't hear those cries anymore because he has has sucked.

Now there are threads about benching Bradford for Sanchez. Does anyone realize how stupid that actually sounds? With the way the offensive line has been playing Sanchez would put up far worse stats than Bradford. Putting in Sanchez means we are throwing in the towel for the season.

When it comes to Eagle QB's people refuse to give credit to opposing defenses. That does not mean I am saying Bradford is not deserve some of the blame but it is obvious some of you could care less about wins if you want Sanchez. Good things these guys are not running the team. Has anyone been watching Andrew Luck or Peyton Manning? These are really good QB's that are struggling and that is just a couple off the top of my head.

 

[L.Freamon]

Remember in preseason when we wanted Chip to sign him to a long term contract?

nope. was not in favor of it.

 

[_phiLLies_]

I look at some of these threads and laugh because it is par for the course when it comes to Eagles fans. Some are never happy no matter what. The past couple weeks there have been calls for getting Foles back. We don't hear those cries anymore because he has has sucked.

Now there are threads about benching Bradford for Sanchez. Does anyone realize how stupid that actually sounds? With the way the offensive line has been playing Sanchez would put up far worse stats than Bradford. Putting in Sanchez means we are throwing in the towel for the season.

When it comes to Eagle QB's people refuse to give credit to opposing defenses. That does not mean I am saying Bradford is not deserve some of the blame but it is obvious some of you could care less about wins if you want Sanchez. Good things these guys are not running the team. Has anyone been watching Andrew Luck or Peyton Manning? These are really good QB's that are struggling and that is just a couple off the top of my head.

agholor looks frustrated because every time he's open bradford seems to throw a one hopper in the grass.. leaving him no chance. matthews dropped a possible long TD earlier in the game (which was his fault).. but bradford made a poor throw that had him turn sideways. i'm confident sanchez can make these throws. i'm confident sanchez will take some decent shots down the field. i'm 100% confident sanchez isn't going to take the snap, stare down one receiver and just force the throw with a defender glued to him.

none of these QB's are going to lead the eagles anywhere. but for the time being, at least sanchez could move the offense and put up some points. bradford is fucking pitiful. take away sproles' punt return and marshall's stupid turnover, the offense put up a whopping 10 points.

manning is pushing 40 years old and luck is just off to a slow start. these are clearly proven QB's. bradford is an injury machine who has never shown much when he has even played. and he's doing exactly that right now.

 

[DutchBird]

agholor looks frustrated because every time he's open bradford seems to throw a one hopper in the grass.. leaving him no chance. matthews dropped a possible long TD earlier in the game (which was his fault).. but bradford made a poor throw that had him turn sideways. i'm confident sanchez can make these throws. i'm confident sanchez will take some decent shots down the field. i'm 100% confident sanchez isn't going to take the snap, stare down one receiver and just force the throw with a defender glued to him.

I remember from last year as well as the preseason a good number of Sanchez throws falling short.

And as far as excusing the Matthews drop goes - the ball hit him in the chest on the numbers. Yes, Matthews had to turn around a bit, but he has to catch that. Not a single excuse, and the throw was not that poor.

none of these QB's are going to lead the eagles anywhere. but for the time being, at least sanchez could move the offense and put up some points. bradford is fucking pitiful. take away sproles' punt return and marshall's stupid turnover, the offense put up a whopping 10 points.

Maybe, maybe not. We do not know - and I highly doubt Sanchez would have done much better. Best part is that many of those wanting Sanchez to start now were raving about Bradford in the preseason, and wanted Sanchez gone at the same time.

manning is pushing 40 years old and luck is just off to a slow start. these are clearly proven QB's. bradford is an injury machine who has never shown much when he has even played. and he's doing exactly that right now.

Not sure where I came across, but you seem to have bought the Andrew Luck ESPN drivel hook-line-and-sinker, as there was one evaluation site (might be Football Outsiders or PFF) that argued that Luck has not been anywhere as good as the media (and as a result hordes of fans) make him out to be. What seems often overlooked is that he has always had decent to good WR's, and has played his whole career in a consistently putrid division padding his stats.

 

[Robotech]

I wonder if Bradford is just damaged goods from getting his teeth kicked in so often when he was on the Rams.

 

[_phiLLies_]

I remember from last year as well as the preseason a good number of Sanchez throws falling short.

And as far as excusing the Matthews drop goes - the ball hit him in the chest on the numbers. Yes, Matthews had to turn around a bit, but he has to catch that. Not a single excuse, and the throw was not that poor.

of course the throw was that poor. mathews obviously isn't known for his hands. the ball should have been inside and leading him, instead it was behind him and forced him to slow and make a partial turn. as i mentioned, his fault for not catching it, but that doesn't excuse the piss poor throw that any QB should make with ease. if your ass is too scared and/or can't throw downfield, you better be hitting wide open players 5 yards out with no issues.

Maybe, maybe not. We do not know - and I highly doubt Sanchez would have done much better. Best part is that many of those wanting Sanchez to start now were raving about Bradford in the preseason, and wanted Sanchez gone at the same time.

you highly doubt sanchez could have done better than 14-28 for 118 yards? i sure as hell don't. the jets were run stacking the majority of the game and guys were open. bradford is not finding them. and when he does, his throws look like shit. (poorly missed austin in the endzone on the opening drive, for another example.)

none of these guys are anything special, but foles was the best based on age, the skill level related to it/experience and command of the offense. if we're going to do nothing but 5-10 yard dump passes, sanchez is by far a better option than bradford.

Not sure where I came across, but you seem to have bought the Andrew Luck ESPN drivel hook-line-and-sinker, as there was one evaluation site (might be Football Outsiders or PFF) that argued that Luck has not been anywhere as good as the media (and as a result hordes of fans) make him out to be. What seems often overlooked is that he has always had decent to good WR's, and has played his whole career in a consistently putrid division padding his stats.

none of this changes what i had said; luck is a proven QB off to a slow start.

 

[WIZ]

Bradford played his first three games in two years in a brand new system. He's losing the deer in the headlights look, now just looks uninterested at times. I think he's improving. Baby steps but improving.

 

[DutchBird]

of course the throw was that poor. mathews obviously isn't known for his hands. the ball should have been inside and leading him, instead it was behind him and forced him to slow and make a partial turn. as i mentioned, his fault for not catching it, but that doesn't excuse the piss poor throw that any QB should make with ease. if your ass is too scared and/or can't throw downfield, you better be hitting wide open players 5 yards out with no issues.

Sorry - but I flat out disagree with you here. Yes, could the pass have been better, of course. But you are acting as if the pass was 15 yards off and it would have required a circus catch to make it - which is absolute BS. The pass was good enough for Matthews to catch and even run. It is f-ing flat out drops. No more, no less.

Funny how you ignore how this consistently was the case with Foles again last year. How quick to forget.

You highly doubt sanchez could have done better than 14-28 for 118 yards? i sure as hell don't. the jets were run stacking the majority of the game and guys were open. bradford is not finding them. and when he does, his throws look like shit. (poorly missed austin in the endzone on the opening drive, for another example.)

Guys were open all the time? You already have had a look on the All-22 then? Because that narrative about WR's being open all the time over the past two weeks has gotten shot down quite a bit; and that was against secondaries that were far less quality than this one. See the tape first, and judge then.

Sanchez possibly would have had better numbers, but that is far from certain - based on last season as well as the preseason.

none of these guys are anything special, but foles was the best based on age, the skill level related to it/experience and command of the offense. if we're going to do nothing but 5-10 yard dump passes, sanchez is by far a better option than bradford.

Sorry? There was maybe one game last year where Foles played better than Bradford has this year (the Washington game) - and that had as much to do with him surviving that game as well as anything else. Bradford is not doing too good either in St. Louis.

None of this changes what i had said; luck is a proven QB off to a slow start.

As said before - proven in a horrendous division with decent supporting cast - and possibly nowhere near as good as ESPN-advertised, advertisement you seem to swallow.

You might for instance recollect last season, when Luck did not look that good against the Eagles, when the Eagles offense was even more inept than it has shown this season so far.

BTW - Luck is off to slow start, in your opinion. Yet Bradford - it is determined - s***s, completely ignoring all that has gone on around him (and the fact that he has not played for two seasons).

So let's see and wait what happens over the next few games before burrying Bradford.

 

[PhillyGreen]

Bradford played his first three games in two years in a brand new system. He's losing the deer in the headlights look, now just looks uninterested at times. I think he's improving. Baby steps but improving.

That seems to go unnoticed by people here. If a QB dons an Eagles uniform they need to perform as if they are the best in the NFL. No excuses.

Bradford has what it takes to succeed in this offense and in fact can be great. We have seen flashes of it in the pre-season. Just like you said he is in a new system playing a game that he has not played in 2 years. Yet no one is willing to give him time to see if he can actually do it. I think he can.

The fact that people are calling for Mark Sanchez makes all of this just laughable.

 

[_phiLLies_]

Sorry - but I flat out disagree with you here. Yes, could the pass have been better, of course. But you are acting as if the pass was 15 yards off and it would have required a circus catch to make it - which is absolute BS. The pass was good enough for Matthews to catch and even run. It is f-ing flat out drops. No more, no less.

Funny how you ignore how this consistently was the case with Foles again last year. How quick to forget

i've said numerous times that mathews should have made the catch and it's his fault. but he's also not a WR, nor a back who is known for his hands. it all starts with the throw itself, which simply sucked.

what am i ignoring with foles? was he tentative at times? sure. but he also ripped off 322, 331, 325 yard games in his first 3 with 6 TD/2 INT last year. aside from the niners game, he was consistently leading the eagles on long drives and putting up points. just because he was inconsistent and not the 27 TD/2 INT foles from the year before, doesn't mean he wasn't doing the job.

Guys were open all the time? You already have had a look on the All-22 then? Because that narrative about WR's being open all the time over the past two weeks has gotten shot down quite a bit; and that was against secondaries that were far less quality than this one. See the tape first, and judge then.

Sanchez possibly would have had better numbers, but that is far from certain - based on last season as well as the preseason.

i believe i said "guys were open." i do not recall mentioning all the time. guys certainly were open. agholor several times, mathews, austin. like i've also said numerous times.. bradford is frequently taking the snap and staring down one man. he's 100% set on him.

far from certain sanchez would have had better numbers? right, right. of course for all anyone knows, sanchez could have fumbled 5 times and thrown 4 picks. but, lets be real. he's not doing worse than completing 50% on open dump passes while throwing for less than 118 yards.

Sorry? There was maybe one game last year where Foles played better than Bradford has this year (the Washington game) - and that had as much to do with him surviving that game as well as anything else. Bradford is not doing too good either in St. Louis.

uh, ok? lmao.

As said before - proven in a horrendous division with decent supporting cast - and possibly nowhere near as good as ESPN-advertised, advertisement you seem to swallow.

You might for instance recollect last season, when Luck did not look that good against the Eagles, when the Eagles offense was even more inept than it has shown this season so far.

BTW - Luck is off to slow start, in your opinion. Yet Bradford - it is determined - s***s, completely ignoring all that has gone on around him (and the fact that he has not played for two seasons).

So let's see and wait what happens over the next few games before burrying Bradford.

i don't know why you're insistent on mentioning ESPN. a person doesn't need a network to tell them a healthy luck has led his team to three 11 win seasons in a row, while winning 3 playoff games along the way. they don't have an elite defensive unit. trying to rag on him because of their division and his receiver skill set is just idiotic at best.

he's PROVEN. he can take hits, stay on the field, guide his team to wins, light it up, win some big games. what has bradford shown in his career? absolutely jack fuckin' shit.

 

[_phiLLies_]

That seems to go unnoticed by people here. If a QB dons an Eagles uniform they need to perform as if they are the best in the NFL. No excuses.

Bradford has what it takes to succeed in this offense and in fact can be great. We have seen flashes of it in the pre-season. Just like you said he is in a new system playing a game that he has not played in 2 years. Yet no one is willing to give him time to see if he can actually do it. I think he can.

The fact that people are calling for Mark Sanchez makes all of this just laughable.

no, they are expected to make passes your typical high school QB can handle. feel free to spread some of that fairy dust on every philly team. maybe noel and okafor can post 25/12 numbers this upcoming season.

 

[Iggloo]

This noodle-armed fraud underthrew every damn pass.

 

[deerpathdave]

This noodle-armed fraud underthrew every damn pass.

To be fair only half of them.

 

[PhillyGreen]

This noodle-armed fraud underthrew every damn pass.

And he will get better as time goes on. He will learn to anticipate and where the ball needs to be. He is a very accurate QB that is rusty. Arm strength is not a problem for Bradford. He has plenty of arm. I agree he needs to play better and I think he will. I just don't think it is time to go out on the ledge and threaten to jump.