Jay Gruden wants to get rid of Robert Griffin III

[countryroads316]

ESPN Redskins reporter John Keim believes coach Jay Gruden wants to get rid of Robert Griffin III

"If it were up to the coach, Griffin would be gone," Keim said. Griffin was named the starter in February, but that decision likely came from above Gruden's head. Griffin will be given every opportunity to solidify himself in the Redskins' lineup, but without the full support of the head coach, it is not a given Griffin will hold the starting job all season.


Source: ESPN.com
Mar 21 - 12:48 PM

 

[Sharkinva]

IF true, it begs the question....

Who remains a Redskin at the end of the year. May 3rd will be very telling. Because if they pick up the 5th year option, Jay is basically stuck with him or SOL.

 

[Stymietee]

IF true, it begs the question....

Who remains a Redskin at the end of the year. May 3rd will be very telling. Because if they pick up the 5th year option, Jay is basically stuck with him or SOL.

Exactly, there are other questions as well which, BTW, just might spell doom for one Jay Gruden. Chief among them is, did he fail or earnestly work towards transitioning RGIII into the QB that the team hired him in great part to do?

 

[Sharkinva]

Exactly, there are other questions as well which, BTW, just might spell doom for one Jay Gruden. Chief among them is, did he fail or earnestly work towards transitioning RGIII into the QB that the team hired him in great part to do?

Sty... problem is, if Gruden gets fired.. .especially because of the QB... what do we do for a coach. Because no one in their right mind would take a gig where TWO coaches have basically been fired for failing to accommodate the QB.

 

[BeaReylo]

If two coaches can't teach RG3 its pretty obvious Griffin isn't the right man to be The Redskins quarterback. How many changes is the franchise going to make for one player with a multitude of question marks? Many of which shouldn't be in doubt going into his fourth year.

Bob had a fantastic rookie year, maybe even the best in NFL history. But what has he done since? Each season after, he has regressed both years. His second year wasn't as bad as some have complained. But he still took steps backwards. We get a new coach and its the same story...hes getting worse. Two different teachers same student same results. Jay came in expecting to teach calculus but Griffin is still struggling with high school algebra and is demanding to be taught geometry.

Last time I checked Gruden is the head coach. He is not just here to babysit one player. He has to look out for the entire team.

 

[martinez]

well the fans dont trust rg3, the coach doesnt trust rg3, hes gotta step up and prove everyone wrong

 

[deanpet21]

Why wouldn't Cle offer draft picks for RG3? They were going to offer a 1st for Sam Bradford and no one is more injured then him. RG3 is younger we should get two 2nd from the Browns for him. Ive been saying it all along RG 3 = coach killer.

 

[Sharkinva]

Why wouldn't Cle offer draft picks for RG3? They were going to offer a 1st for Sam Bradford and no one is more injured then him. RG3 is younger we should get two 2nd from the Browns for him. Ive been saying it all along RG 3 = coach killer.

thing is, you have an owner that apparently still believes in him and a fan base that still partially believes in him. The deal would have to be uber sweet to sell it.

 

[redskinsfan]

If this is true, screw Gruden. That's not to say that I've got issues with RGIII. But Gruden jumped to a major conclusion with RGIII way too early and didn't want to modify his gameplan to fit RGIII's needs. I've NEVER supported front office intervention in coaching decisions, but for this one special case, I'm willing to make an exception. I'd give Gruden this ultimatum now: if RGIII fails this year, we're going to presume it's Gruden fault. If he can't overcome that presumption, he's gone. And I'd be of half the mind to drag his name publicly through the mud the same way that he did with RGIII. Gruden better figure out that many outside commentatirs believe RGIII has the talent and skills to succeed. If Gruden can't -- or won't -- make that work, there's the door, Chucky, Jr.

 

[skinsdad62]

If this is true, screw Gruden. That's not to say that I've got issues with RGIII. But Gruden jumped to a major conclusion with RGIII way too early and didn't want to modify his gameplan to fit RGIII's needs. I've NEVER supported front office intervention in coaching decisions, but for this one special case, I'm willing to make an exception. I'd give Gruden this ultimatum now: if RGIII fails this year, we're going to presume it's Gruden fault. If he can't overcome that presumption, he's gone. And I'd be of half the mind to drag his name publicly through the mud the same way that he did with RGIII. Gruden better figure out that many outside commentatirs believe RGIII has the talent and skills to succeed. If Gruden can't -- or won't -- make that work, there's the door, Chucky, Jr.

Rg3 didnt want to run the the plays he was good at .

 

[countryroads316]

If Scot believes Mariota is the BPA and our best option I have no problem selecting him there will be Tackles and Guards we can select rounds 2-4 and we could always trade RG3 to the Browns for one of their 1st round picks

 

[redskinsfan]

Rg3 didnt want to run the the plays he was good at .

That's one of the issues I have with him.

 

[Sharkinva]

If Scot believes Mariota is the BPA and our best option I have no problem selecting him there will be Tackles and Guards we can select rounds 2-4 and we could always trade RG3 to the Browns for one of their 1st round picks

OK IF we draft Mariota, WHY would the Browns give us a 1st rounder for a player we are all of a sudden desperate to unload??

Think of it like this, you over spent on a sports car three years ago. It turned out not to be as cool as you thought. You then walk into the Dealership and get yourself a NEWER sports car while you still owe on the old one.... why would I bail you out and give you top dollar on the 2012 that had issues?? If anything Im going to offer you less than you might be able to get because I know you are desperate to off load it at that point.

So IF we draft Mariota, we WONT get one of the Browns first rounders, and will be lucky to get a 2nd for him.

 

[ckhokie]

If Gruden ends up getting fired because he's forced to start and play RG3 (who sucks), I can't imagine who in their right mind would EVER want to replace him at HC.

 

[Stymietee]

Sty... problem is, if Gruden gets firfan basespecially because of the QB... what do we do for a coach. Because no one in their right mind would take a gig where TWO coaches have basically been fired for failing to accommodate the QB.

While I totally agree that firing him would present quite a problem for the team and fanbase, I am not convinced that Mr. Snyder has taken enough hard knocks to stop him from creating issues like this. If as you say that "no one in his right mind would take the gig" that just might be another lesson that has to be learned before he gets it. Maybe SM will be that lone brave soul that actually gives it to him straight, maybe not.......in the meantime we'll just have to suffer through this.

 

[Stymietee]

well the fans dont trust rg3, the coach doesnt trust rg3, hes gotta step up and prove everyone wrong

As sad as this statement is.......I still believe in RGIII. I hold to the fact that he was absolutely correct in not being willing to run an offense that by all accounts would have shortened his career. That said, if he believed that then he should have spent every available moment working on the skills that would change his style of play from what he's done previously into what he wants to be. It is not too late for him to get it turned around, the only question in my mind is......when it happens, will it be here?

 

[Stymietee]

Why wouldn't Cle offer draft picks for RG3? They were going to offer a 1st for Sam Bradford and no one is more injured then him. RG3 is younger we should get two 2nd from the Browns for him. Ive been saying it all along RG 3 = coach killer.

You don't really believe that, RG3=coach killer do you? He's only had two and neither had the sack to do what was right for the team. MS, started the guy right out of school, when the prudent thing would have been to sit him and let him learn. JG, made it a point of emphasis that he could mold the guy into the team's franchise player during his hiring process. How did that work out? In the meantime, RGIII, with the backing of team management, must have sensed the weaknesses of his HC's, internalized the high esteem from management into believing that his game was/is on point, therefore no need to work on his game. Right now, as I look at RGIII, it is difficult to point at any one thing or person in his lack of development. If ever there was an example of a systematic failure, his would be the face of it.

BTW: Isn't it interesting that there is a lot of talk about MM sitting behind a veteran starter while he learns? Lesson learned I suppose.

 

[Tubbs1518]

If Gruden ends up getting fired because he's forced to start and play RG3 (who sucks), I can't imagine who in their right mind would EVER want to replace him at HC.

Players will always chase money.

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Dont know where or when this comment came from... Wonder whether Jay feels this way too.


"You know what potential is? It means you haven't done it yet." - Jon Gruden

 

[Tubbs1518]

Dont know where or when this comment came from... Wonder whether Jay feels this way too.


"You know what potential is? It means you haven't done it yet." - Jon Gruden

Jay Gruden went to bat for Andy Fucking Dalton. He wouldn't know a real QB if it threw a 70 yard pass and hit him in the sack with it.