Best team your club ever had.

[SeattleOspreys]

why are the 89 niners better than the 07 pats other than winning the sb? its what you do leading up to the sb that determines wether you are the greatest team or not. not just the last game.

Why were the 9er's better, assuming we mesh era's?

1. Competition: The first point I will attack is the competition. The NFC era from 1984 - 2005, if my memory serves, never lost a SB. It was dominant. G-Men, Bears, Skins, Boys, 9ers. Even the Eagles and Saints had some of the best D's you'll find. The 1989 9er's had tougher competition than the 2007 Pats. Edge to SF.

2. Roster: I will take Joe Montana, Roger Craig, Tom Rathman, Jerry Rice, John Taylor and Brent Jones over a very talented '07 Pat team, no disrespect. Tom Brady, Randy Moss and Wes Welker were a formidable trio. But let's keep it real. That doesn't match the '89 Niners. Where is the Pat's running game? TE? Edge to SF.

The Defense is close to a push. Both ran 3-4's. Both had an enforcer in the secondary with Lott vs Harrison. 9er's Haley and Holt could get after the passer and we saw what happened to Brady when pressured. I like the Pats' LB's. Secondaries are a toss up. Edge = Push

3. End of Season: I thought the Pats were leaking oil far before the SB and the engine just happened to seize at an inopportune time. 3 of the final 6 games were decided by 3 pts. We all remember the backup Eagle QB, name escapes me, hang a 28 spot on the Pats. It didn't get better.
The playoff games were unimpressive vs competition that doesn't even touch the 1989 9er's, doesn't touch. Jags / SD / Giants? C'mon, man... Won the first two by a total of 20 points and then lose the SB. The 9er's blasted their opponents by 100 pts in the 3 games inc the SB = Edge 49er's.

4. Stats: Both teams were #1 in both yds and pts Offense. Similar D with #3/#4 for 9ers and 4/4 for Pats. See # 1 above.

5. SB: 49ers won 55-10. Pats lost 17-14 ...

You tell me who is the better squad.

so tell me why the 89 niners are better than the 07 pats.

Hopefully, I just did...

 

[SeattleOspreys]

1995 NOT 2005, duh

1995, not 2005 as far as NFC SB's

 

[Schmoopy1000]

I would have taken the 89' Niners over the 07' Pats as well. & I cant stand the Niners!

but back to the original topic.
I know most Cowboys fans would pick one of the 90's teams, but my favorite was the year the Boys won the 77' superbowl. Randy White & Roger Staubach are my two favorite players all time.

 

[SeattleOspreys]

I would have taken the 89' Niners over the 07' Pats as well. & I cant stand the Niners!

but back to the original topic.
I know most Cowboys fans would pick one of the 90's teams, but my favorite was the year the Boys won the 77' superbowl. Randy White & Roger Staubach are my two favorite players all time.

I'd go with 1 from the early 90's but that's my choice. The '77 Broncos had a D but who was the QB? Craig Morton?

The Cowboys are getting jacked around as far as HOF entries. The stealers seem to have half their team and didn't actually torch the boys. 2 SB's decided by 4 pts each.

 

[briz almighty]

Why were the 9er's better, assuming we mesh era's?

1. Competition: The first point I will attack is the competition. The NFC era from 1984 - 2005, if my memory serves, never lost a SB. It was dominant. G-Men, Bears, Skins, Boys, 9ers. Even the Eagles and Saints had some of the best D's you'll find. The 1989 9er's had tougher competition than the 2007 Pats. Edge to SF.

2. Roster: I will take Joe Montana, Roger Craig, Tom Rathman, Jerry Rice, John Taylor and Brent Jones over a very talented '07 Pat team, no disrespect. Tom Brady, Randy Moss and Wes Welker were a formidable trio. But let's keep it real. That doesn't match the '89 Niners. Where is the Pat's running game? TE? Edge to SF.

The Defense is close to a push. Both ran 3-4's. Both had an enforcer in the secondary with Lott vs Harrison. 9er's Haley and Holt could get after the passer and we saw what happened to Brady when pressured. I like the Pats' LB's. Secondaries are a toss up. Edge = Push

3. End of Season: I thought the Pats were leaking oil far before the SB and the engine just happened to seize at an inopportune time. 3 of the final 6 games were decided by 3 pts. We all remember the backup Eagle QB, name escapes me, hang a 28 spot on the Pats. It didn't get better.
The playoff games were unimpressive vs competition that doesn't even touch the 1989 9er's, doesn't touch. Jags / SD / Giants? C'mon, man... Won the first two by a total of 20 points and then lose the SB. The 9er's blasted their opponents by 100 pts in the 3 games inc the SB = Edge 49er's.

4. Stats: Both teams were #1 in both yds and pts Offense. Similar D with #3/#4 for 9ers and 4/4 for Pats. See # 1 above.

5. SB: 49ers won 55-10. Pats lost 17-14 ...

You tell me who is the better squad.


competition? you do know its harder to win in the salary cap era than not dont you? thats why they have a salary cap.

both rosters have great players, i dont think it really matters 9er fans will go to their grave claiming montana, rice, walsh etc the best and pats fans will go to their graves claiming belichick, brady, moss the best. im concerened with what they accomplished and as a team. you gave me nothing. pats scored more points, beat more teams, dominated, they clearly had a superior regular season.


9ers
Scored 442 points (27.6/g), 1st of 28 in the NFL.
Allowed 253 points (15.8/g), 3rd.
Differential of 189 points (11.8/g), 1st.


pats
Scored 589 points (36.8/g), 1st of 32 in the NFL.
Allowed 274 points (17.1/g), 4th.
Differential of 315 points (19.7/g), 1st.



315 point differential even blows this years broncos out the water. the pats SET RECORDS. the pats WENT UNDEFEATED. what did the 9ers do other than being really good?

 

[RoboticDreams]

Why were the 9er's better, assuming we mesh era's?

1. Competition: The first point I will attack is the competition. The NFC era from 1984 - 2005, if my memory serves, never lost a SB. It was dominant. G-Men, Bears, Skins, Boys, 9ers. Even the Eagles and Saints had some of the best D's you'll find. The 1989 9er's had tougher competition than the 2007 Pats. Edge to SF.

2. Roster: I will take Joe Montana, Roger Craig, Tom Rathman, Jerry Rice, John Taylor and Brent Jones over a very talented '07 Pat team, no disrespect. Tom Brady, Randy Moss and Wes Welker were a formidable trio. But let's keep it real. That doesn't match the '89 Niners. Where is the Pat's running game? TE? Edge to SF.

The Defense is close to a push. Both ran 3-4's. Both had an enforcer in the secondary with Lott vs Harrison. 9er's Haley and Holt could get after the passer and we saw what happened to Brady when pressured. I like the Pats' LB's. Secondaries are a toss up. Edge = Push

3. End of Season: I thought the Pats were leaking oil far before the SB and the engine just happened to seize at an inopportune time. 3 of the final 6 games were decided by 3 pts. We all remember the backup Eagle QB, name escapes me, hang a 28 spot on the Pats. It didn't get better.
The playoff games were unimpressive vs competition that doesn't even touch the 1989 9er's, doesn't touch. Jags / SD / Giants? C'mon, man... Won the first two by a total of 20 points and then lose the SB. The 9er's blasted their opponents by 100 pts in the 3 games inc the SB = Edge 49er's.

4. Stats: Both teams were #1 in both yds and pts Offense. Similar D with #3/#4 for 9ers and 4/4 for Pats. See # 1 above.

5. SB: 49ers won 55-10. Pats lost 17-14 ...

You tell me who is the better squad.


competition? you do know its harder to win in the salary cap era than not dont you? thats why they have a salary cap.

both players have great rosters, i dont think it really matters 9er fans will go to their grave claiming montana, rice, walsh etc the best and pats fans will go to their graves claiming belichick, brady, moss the best. im concerened with what they accomplished and as a team. you gave me nothing. pats scored more points, beat more teams, dominated, they clearly had a superior regular season.


9ers
Scored 442 points (27.6/g), 1st of 28 in the NFL.
Allowed 253 points (15.8/g), 3rd.
Differential of 189 points (11.8/g), 1st.


pats
Scored 589 points (36.8/g), 1st of 32 in the NFL.
Allowed 274 points (17.1/g), 4th.
Differential of 315 points (19.7/g), 1st.



315 point differential even blows this years broncos out the water. the pats SET RECORDS. the pats WENT UNDEFEATED. what did the 9ers do other than being really good?

Go 17-2 for the season, 3-0 in the playoffs, out score their playoff opponents 126-26 and WIN the Super Bowl?

Other than that I guess not much. Btw, an argument could be made for Brady over Montana but there is no argument to be made for Moss over Rice or Belichick over Walsh.

 

[Itsmytime]

Why were the 9er's better, assuming we mesh era's?

1. Competition: The first point I will attack is the competition. The NFC era from 1984 - 2005, if my memory serves, never lost a SB. It was dominant. G-Men, Bears, Skins, Boys, 9ers. Even the Eagles and Saints had some of the best D's you'll find. The 1989 9er's had tougher competition than the 2007 Pats. Edge to SF.

2. Roster: I will take Joe Montana, Roger Craig, Tom Rathman, Jerry Rice, John Taylor and Brent Jones over a very talented '07 Pat team, no disrespect. Tom Brady, Randy Moss and Wes Welker were a formidable trio. But let's keep it real. That doesn't match the '89 Niners. Where is the Pat's running game? TE? Edge to SF.

The Defense is close to a push. Both ran 3-4's. Both had an enforcer in the secondary with Lott vs Harrison. 9er's Haley and Holt could get after the passer and we saw what happened to Brady when pressured. I like the Pats' LB's. Secondaries are a toss up. Edge = Push

3. End of Season: I thought the Pats were leaking oil far before the SB and the engine just happened to seize at an inopportune time. 3 of the final 6 games were decided by 3 pts. We all remember the backup Eagle QB, name escapes me, hang a 28 spot on the Pats. It didn't get better.
The playoff games were unimpressive vs competition that doesn't even touch the 1989 9er's, doesn't touch. Jags / SD / Giants? C'mon, man... Won the first two by a total of 20 points and then lose the SB. The 9er's blasted their opponents by 100 pts in the 3 games inc the SB = Edge 49er's.

4. Stats: Both teams were #1 in both yds and pts Offense. Similar D with #3/#4 for 9ers and 4/4 for Pats. See # 1 above.

5. SB: 49ers won 55-10. Pats lost 17-14 ...

You tell me who is the better squad.


competition? you do know its harder to win in the salary cap era than not dont you? thats why they have a salary cap.

both rosters have great players, i dont think it really matters 9er fans will go to their grave claiming montana, rice, walsh etc the best and pats fans will go to their graves claiming belichick, brady, moss the best. im concerened with what they accomplished and as a team. you gave me nothing. pats scored more points, beat more teams, dominated, they clearly had a superior regular season.


9ers
Scored 442 points (27.6/g), 1st of 28 in the NFL.
Allowed 253 points (15.8/g), 3rd.
Differential of 189 points (11.8/g), 1st.


pats
Scored 589 points (36.8/g), 1st of 32 in the NFL.
Allowed 274 points (17.1/g), 4th.
Differential of 315 points (19.7/g), 1st.



315 point differential even blows this years broncos out the water. the pats SET RECORDS. the pats WENT UNDEFEATED. what did the 9ers do other than being really good?

The fact that when it came to the game that mattered the most, they lost.

 

[SeattleOspreys]

Wow, that's tough. The '91 Skins.. I remember that year. They had Mark Rypien at the helm but just seemed unstoppable... they kept rolling along, into the playoffs, and eventually beat a damn good Bills team.

That's my point #1. The NFC was dominate in that era with tough squads across the board.

I really got into football in 1984 and was blessed to see my favorite RB and favorite QB of all time.
Eric Dickerson and Dan Marino. I saw Eric run for 200+ yds with a garbage QB. In fact, all of Dick's years in LA, he had trash QB's. You could put 8 in the box all day when Jeff Kemp is your QB.
Nobody ran like Dickerson then nor today and look at the defensive squads he torched.

Marino was a bad @$$. Nobody could slide in the pocket and throw a ball like Dan. In 1984, I saw Dan live throw for 400+ yds. It was a Duper/Clayton duo. No RB, No TE, No Defense. Just Marino to the Mark bro's.

The irony is that both Dickerson and Marino held the single season rushing and passing records until Brees broke it in a pass happy league that you can't hit anyone. Both in 1984. I was hooked and for the next decade, I loved football.

Today's game is, unfortunately, just a shell of how football used to be played. Oh well, I'm still a fan.

Now, back to the topic...

 

[Schmoopy1000]

both rosters have great players, i dont think it really matters 9er fans will go to their grave claiming montana, rice, walsh etc the best and pats fans will go to their graves claiming belichick, brady, moss the best. im concerened with what they accomplished and as a team. you gave me nothing. pats scored more points, beat more teams, dominated, they clearly had a superior regular season.


9ers
Scored 442 points (27.6/g), 1st of 28 in the NFL.
Allowed 253 points (15.8/g), 3rd.
Differential of 189 points (11.8/g), 1st.


pats
Scored 589 points (36.8/g), 1st of 32 in the NFL.
Allowed 274 points (17.1/g), 4th.
Differential of 315 points (19.7/g), 1st.



315 point differential even blows this years broncos out the water. the pats SET RECORDS. the pats WENT UNDEFEATED. what did the 9ers do other than being really good?

put those niners with the rules the 07 pats offense had & then what? Not only does that help the offense of the niners, but if the pats played in the niners time they would be playing much tougher defenses to score against. All things equal. I would take the niners team.
BTW the final record is 17-2 vs. 18-1 only difference is the niners won the big game. Don't see how you think the Pats record blows the niners record away. Also the late 80's is where some of the best defense came from. So honestly I don't care if you took the pats & sent them back to the 89' rules or the niners & brought them to the 07' rules. Think I would take the niners on either occasion. & as I said before. I am far from being a homer for the Niners.

 

[Forty_Sixand2]

91

 

[Cobiemonster]

2004 Eagles - everything but the ring

 

[briz almighty]

and both of you revert to the sb game. yes winning the sb game trumps everything. any team that wins the sb is the greatest team in history. im not saying the pats were clearly better, its extremely close. im just saying the sb game dont matter.

 

[Caliskinsfan]

91

For the skins, yup, '91

Damn, it's been a long time...

 

[SeattleOspreys]

Why were the 9er's better, assuming we mesh era's?

1. Competition: The first point I will attack is the competition. The NFC era from 1984 - 2005, if my memory serves, never lost a SB. It was dominant. G-Men, Bears, Skins, Boys, 9ers. Even the Eagles and Saints had some of the best D's you'll find. The 1989 9er's had tougher competition than the 2007 Pats. Edge to SF.

2. Roster: I will take Joe Montana, Roger Craig, Tom Rathman, Jerry Rice, John Taylor and Brent Jones over a very talented '07 Pat team, no disrespect. Tom Brady, Randy Moss and Wes Welker were a formidable trio. But let's keep it real. That doesn't match the '89 Niners. Where is the Pat's running game? TE? Edge to SF.

The Defense is close to a push. Both ran 3-4's. Both had an enforcer in the secondary with Lott vs Harrison. 9er's Haley and Holt could get after the passer and we saw what happened to Brady when pressured. I like the Pats' LB's. Secondaries are a toss up. Edge = Push

3. End of Season: I thought the Pats were leaking oil far before the SB and the engine just happened to seize at an inopportune time. 3 of the final 6 games were decided by 3 pts. We all remember the backup Eagle QB, name escapes me, hang a 28 spot on the Pats. It didn't get better.
The playoff games were unimpressive vs competition that doesn't even touch the 1989 9er's, doesn't touch. Jags / SD / Giants? C'mon, man... Won the first two by a total of 20 points and then lose the SB. The 9er's blasted their opponents by 100 pts in the 3 games inc the SB = Edge 49er's.

4. Stats: Both teams were #1 in both yds and pts Offense. Similar D with #3/#4 for 9ers and 4/4 for Pats. See # 1 above.

5. SB: 49ers won 55-10. Pats lost 17-14 ...

You tell me who is the better squad.

competition? you do know its harder to win in the salary cap era than not dont you? thats why they have a salary cap.

We're talking about why the 1989 Niners >>> 2007 Pats. Why does salary cap have relavance?

both rosters have great players, i dont think it really matters 9er fans will go to their grave claiming montana, rice, walsh etc the best and pats fans will go to their graves claiming belichick, brady, moss the best. im concerened with what they accomplished and as a team. you gave me nothing. pats scored more points, beat more teams, dominated, they clearly had a superior regular season.

I gave you better players. You were probably not even born. EYE TEST. Roger Craig & Tom Rathman >>>>>>> Kevin Foulk. Brent Jones>>>>> ???? If you want to push Montana, Rice, Taylor with Brady, Moss, Welker, fine but don't just eliminate the RB's and TE because you're getting smoked.

9ers
Scored 442 points (27.6/g), 1st of 28 in the NFL.
Allowed 253 points (15.8/g), 3rd.
Differential of 189 points (11.8/g), 1st.


pats
Scored 589 points (36.8/g), 1st of 32 in the NFL.
Allowed 274 points (17.1/g), 4th.
Differential of 315 points (19.7/g), 1st.

McFly, McFLy, I gave you yds/pts stats in #4 above. Do you have reading comprehension problems?

315 point differential even blows this years broncos out the water. the pats SET RECORDS. the pats WENT UNDEFEATED. what did the 9ers do other than being really good?

What part of #1 do you not understand? Competition... The '07 Pats were great during the first 10 games against trash. The final 6, they won 3 by 3 points. The '07 Pats leaked oil and struggled in the playoffs. A truly dominant team doesn't scrape by the Jags and Chargers and then lose to the Giants in the SB. The 9er's trashed their playoff comp by 100 points. How do you refute that?

You need to re-read the points. 9er's did their damage against tougher competition. They had better players. They still had better stats than the Pats. #3/#4 in D vs #4/#4 of Pats. Both had #1 in yds/points. Again, WHO DID THE PATS do their damage against. Backup QB's torched the '07 Pats for 28.

Joe Montana would've laid a 40+ spot on that Pat's Defense. It's not really that close and a waste of my time to discuss because you don't know what you're talking about and weren't around to see the 9er's.

Heck, I don't even like the 9er's.... I'm a Hawk fan! It kills me to defend them but you asked the question and I'm answering your request.

How old are you anyway?

 

[briz almighty]

put those niners with the rules the 07 pats offense had & then what? Not only does that help the offense of the niners, but if the pats played in the niners time they would be playing much tougher defenses to score against. All things equal. I would take the niners team.
BTW the final record is 17-2 vs. 18-1 only difference is the niners won the big game. Don't see how you think the Pats record blows the niners record away. Also the late 80's is where some of the best defense came from. So honestly I don't care if you took the pats & sent them back to the 89' rules or the niners & brought them to the 07' rules. Think I would take the niners on either occasion. & as I said before. I am far from being a homer for the Niners.

if those teams had a salary cap to deal with there wouldnt be super defenses and stacked offenses. it all evens out. 9ers had to deal with tough defenses and a few stacked teams, pats had to deal with a league were every team had a chance. i dont believe the niners were more dominant than the pats, they won the last game and the pats didnt. the pats did other special things that no team has done, winning the sb or not.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

Why were the 9er's better, assuming we mesh era's?

1. Competition: The first point I will attack is the competition. The NFC era from 1984 - 2005, if my memory serves, never lost a SB. It was dominant. G-Men, Bears, Skins, Boys, 9ers. Even the Eagles and Saints had some of the best D's you'll find. The 1989 9er's had tougher competition than the 2007 Pats. Edge to SF.

2. Roster: I will take Joe Montana, Roger Craig, Tom Rathman, Jerry Rice, John Taylor and Brent Jones over a very talented '07 Pat team, no disrespect. Tom Brady, Randy Moss and Wes Welker were a formidable trio. But let's keep it real. That doesn't match the '89 Niners. Where is the Pat's running game? TE? Edge to SF.

The Defense is close to a push. Both ran 3-4's. Both had an enforcer in the secondary with Lott vs Harrison. 9er's Haley and Holt could get after the passer and we saw what happened to Brady when pressured. I like the Pats' LB's. Secondaries are a toss up. Edge = Push

3. End of Season: I thought the Pats were leaking oil far before the SB and the engine just happened to seize at an inopportune time. 3 of the final 6 games were decided by 3 pts. We all remember the backup Eagle QB, name escapes me, hang a 28 spot on the Pats. It didn't get better.
The playoff games were unimpressive vs competition that doesn't even touch the 1989 9er's, doesn't touch. Jags / SD / Giants? C'mon, man... Won the first two by a total of 20 points and then lose the SB. The 9er's blasted their opponents by 100 pts in the 3 games inc the SB = Edge 49er's.

4. Stats: Both teams were #1 in both yds and pts Offense. Similar D with #3/#4 for 9ers and 4/4 for Pats. See # 1 above.

5. SB: 49ers won 55-10. Pats lost 17-14 ...

You tell me who is the better squad.


competition? you do know its harder to win in the salary cap era than not dont you? thats why they have a salary cap.

both rosters have great players, i dont think it really matters 9er fans will go to their grave claiming montana, rice, walsh etc the best and pats fans will go to their graves claiming belichick, brady, moss the best. im concerened with what they accomplished and as a team. you gave me nothing. pats scored more points, beat more teams, dominated, they clearly had a superior regular season.


9ers
Scored 442 points (27.6/g), 1st of 28 in the NFL.
Allowed 253 points (15.8/g), 3rd.
Differential of 189 points (11.8/g), 1st.


pats
Scored 589 points (36.8/g), 1st of 32 in the NFL.
Allowed 274 points (17.1/g), 4th.
Differential of 315 points (19.7/g), 1st.



315 point differential even blows this years broncos out the water. the pats SET RECORDS. the pats WENT UNDEFEATED. what did the 9ers do other than being really good?

Every word you type makes you sound more and more idiotic. You simply can't face reality.

Doesn't undefeated mean you win every game? Not only did the Pats not win every game, they lost the most important game. The 9ers won the the most important game in dominating fashion. The best teams rise up to the occasion when it really counts. I'm sorry, a team that loses when the spotlight is on in the most important game, cannot be considered the best team.

Sorry briz, you are undeniably wrong. And i'm going to go out on a limb and say 99% of true NFL fans would agree.

 

[briz almighty]

Why were the 9er's better, assuming we mesh era's?

1. Competition: The first point I will attack is the competition. The NFC era from 1984 - 2005, if my memory serves, never lost a SB. It was dominant. G-Men, Bears, Skins, Boys, 9ers. Even the Eagles and Saints had some of the best D's you'll find. The 1989 9er's had tougher competition than the 2007 Pats. Edge to SF.

2. Roster: I will take Joe Montana, Roger Craig, Tom Rathman, Jerry Rice, John Taylor and Brent Jones over a very talented '07 Pat team, no disrespect. Tom Brady, Randy Moss and Wes Welker were a formidable trio. But let's keep it real. That doesn't match the '89 Niners. Where is the Pat's running game? TE? Edge to SF.

The Defense is close to a push. Both ran 3-4's. Both had an enforcer in the secondary with Lott vs Harrison. 9er's Haley and Holt could get after the passer and we saw what happened to Brady when pressured. I like the Pats' LB's. Secondaries are a toss up. Edge = Push

3. End of Season: I thought the Pats were leaking oil far before the SB and the engine just happened to seize at an inopportune time. 3 of the final 6 games were decided by 3 pts. We all remember the backup Eagle QB, name escapes me, hang a 28 spot on the Pats. It didn't get better.
The playoff games were unimpressive vs competition that doesn't even touch the 1989 9er's, doesn't touch. Jags / SD / Giants? C'mon, man... Won the first two by a total of 20 points and then lose the SB. The 9er's blasted their opponents by 100 pts in the 3 games inc the SB = Edge 49er's.

4. Stats: Both teams were #1 in both yds and pts Offense. Similar D with #3/#4 for 9ers and 4/4 for Pats. See # 1 above.

5. SB: 49ers won 55-10. Pats lost 17-14 ...

You tell me who is the better squad.




We're talking about why the 1989 Niners >>> 2007 Pats. Why does salary cap have relavance?




I gave you better players. You were probably not even born. EYE TEST. Roger Craig & Tom Rathman >>>>>>> Kevin Foulk. Brent Jones>>>>> ???? If you want to push Montana, Rice, Taylor with Brady, Moss, Welker, fine but don't just eliminate the RB's and TE because you're getting smoked.




McFly, McFLy, I gave you yds/pts stats in #4 above. Do you have reading comprehension problems?



What part of #1 do you not understand? Competition... The '07 Pats were great during the first 10 games against trash. The final 6, they won 3 by 3 points. The '07 Pats leaked oil and struggled in the playoffs. A truly dominant team doesn't scrape by the Jags and Chargers and then lose to the Giants in the SB. The 9er's trashed their playoff comp by 100 points. How do you refute that?

You need to re-read the points. 9er's did their damage against tougher competition. They had better players. They still had better stats than the Pats. #3/#4 in D vs #4/#4 of Pats. Both had #1 in yds/points. Again, WHO DID THE PATS do their damage against. Backup QB's torched the '07 Pats for 28.

Joe Montana would've laid a 40+ spot on that Pat's Defense. It's not really that close and a waste of my time to discuss because you don't know what you're talking about and weren't around to see the 9er's.

Heck, I don't even like the 9er's.... I'm a Hawk fan! It kills me to defend them but you asked the question and I'm answering your request.

How old are you anyway?

loool.

 

[SeattleOspreys]

loool.

I've answered and refuted your . Why not answer a paramount question.

How old are you? I'm sure that's one question you shouldn't be with because
you're obviously confused with this topic.

You have a horse in this race. You are going to extremes to protect them. I have no
horse in the race. In fact, the 9er's are our rivals. Yet, I'm keeping it real here.

 

[Octoberfest23]

85 bears or 07 pats take your pick.

 

[RoboticDreams]

85 bears or 07 pats take your pick.

Ugh...