Shaq Was Better Then Lebron In His Prime

[True Lakers Fan]

Hot Lakers Debate: Nelly vs. Stephen A. - YouTube

LOL - That reminds of a song by Lila McCann that was in the top ten on the Charts years ago when she was 14 years old and one of the best singers in Country Western. You should go listen to it for my response

Down Came A Blackbird

 

[True Lakers Fan]

By the way - I said from the beginning even before he signed that DH was a better fit in Houston - lol

 

[Heatles84]

By the way - I said from the beginning even before he signed that DH was a better fit in Houston - lol

Wasn't trying to bring up Dwight. Just pointing out more how Lakers fans stick up for Kobe the way you described.

 

[OutlawImmortal]

I remember seeing that when it first came out, I thought Nelly sounded like a homer. All over Dwight's nuts.

 

[BigBlueNation111]

I really don't think you can compare the two players. Totally two different styles of play along with body types. But both are great in their own right!!

 

[True Lakers Fan]

I really don't think you can compare the two players. Totally two different styles of play along with body types. But both are great in their own right!!

You can when you hear Miami Heat fans saying every week that Lebron James is the best basketball player ever. My response is really?, What about Shaq Oneal, Bill Russell, Bill Walton, Larry Bird, Isaiah Thomas, Magic Johnson, Kareem Jabaar, Wilt Chamberlain and etc. Heat fans opened this comparison up every time they have called Lebron the best ever

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Wasn't trying to bring up Dwight. Just pointing out more how Lakers fans stick up for Kobe the way you described.

From the beginning I thought that if the Lakers amnestied Kobe, got Phil Jackson instead of D'antoni and traded Gasol, they would have had a better team. It is doubtful that Kobe does more then keep the Lakers relevent, but not contenders. The only thing as far as Kobe is concerned that I have responded to the haters is when they call him a rapist. I like to point out that Kobe was wrong to sleep with the girl, but in the end she was merely a prostitute that got paid for the sex, used the system to get paid and walked away with millions of dollars. No conviction, no trial was ever successful, so it's time to hide your daughters from Kobe and move on

 

[piss-tons]

Who called Lebron the best ever? I've never seen anyone call him the best ever. I heard people say he COULD be the best ever but thats totally different.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Who called Lebron the best ever? I've never seen anyone call him the best ever. I heard people say he COULD be the best ever but thats totally different.

There's been a few over the last couple of years

 

[Black Belt Disciple]

From the beginning I thought that if the Lakers amnestied Kobe, got Phil Jackson instead of D'antoni and traded Gasol, they would have had a better team. It is doubtful that Kobe does more then keep the Lakers relevent, but not contenders. The only thing as far as Kobe is concerned that I have responded to the haters is when they call him a rapist. I like to point out that Kobe was wrong to sleep with the girl, but in the end she was merely a prostitute that got paid for the sex, used the system to get paid and walked away with millions of dollars. No conviction, no trial was ever successful, so it's time to hide your daughters from Kobe and move on

First of all, dumbass, how do you know she made off with "millions"? The amount was never disclosed. Second, Kobe booty raped that poor girl. Deal with it.

 

[BOTSLAYER]

I think you mean prison raped her...

 

[shitsho]

Whatever kind of r*pe it was it messed up his brains enough to drop a dime on Shaq to the cops.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Whatever kind of r*pe it was it messed up his brains enough to drop a dime on Shaq to the cops.

Some one bringing up The prostitute that got paid for having sex with Kobe by pretending to have been raped again is kind of old isn't it? Mabe Kobe thought Shaq's name would have some weight, I don't know, but Kobe was young and a bit naive with american justice in small towns such as Colorado. Here is a hint - when you are in a small town - Don't mess with the local talent

 

[Jims_Doors]

Some one bringing up The prostitute that got paid for having sex with Kobe by pretending to have been raped again is kind of old isn't it? Mabe Kobe thought Shaq's name would have some weight, I don't know, but Kobe was young and a bit naive with american justice in small towns such as Colorado. Here is a hint - when you are in a small town - Don't mess with the local talent

Kobe's thinking?

Maybe if I tell them about Shaq, they'll go after the bigger fish and forget all about that girl saying I raped her. After all, I am innocent so let them try to bring someone else down who's never been accused of r*pe.

You're right, TLF......you can't fix stupid.

 

[shitsho]

Some one bringing up The prostitute that got paid for having sex with Kobe by pretending to have been raped again is kind of old isn't it? Mabe Kobe thought Shaq's name would have some weight, I don't know, but Kobe was young and a bit naive with american justice in small towns such as Colorado. Here is a hint - when you are in a small town - Don't mess with the local talent

You totally missed the point TLF. You dont do that ever especially to someone that has no relationship to the issue at hand. this was a teammate.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Kobe's thinking?

Maybe if I tell them about Shaq, they'll go after the bigger fish and forget all about that girl saying I raped her. After all, I am innocent so let them try to bring someone else down who's never been accused of r*pe.

You're right, TLF......you can't fix stupid.

You're bringing up information provided by individuals who weren't even there. Do you know for a fact that Kobe brought Shaq's name? What evidence do you have besides what others have said? I have never seen anything anywhere that documented your little version here. It is heresy because I seriously doubt that the Vail, Co police is ever going to release those transcripts of what was actually said. If they have and I haven't heard about - the post the link first or stfu because until then that girl got paid for sex - that is prostitution - There was never a conviction

 

[The Derski]

Why are we comparing a 7'1'', 324 lbs man beast to 6'8'' 250 lbs? Completely different players in different positions. Silly.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

You totally missed the point TLF. You dont do that ever especially to someone that has no relationship to the issue at hand. this was a teammate.

First none of knows for sure that he did do that. I haven't ever seen any evidence or proof that he said that. Have you? If so, link please.

Second of all - he was pretty young - and a bit naive, so who knows what he thought. He was a dumb ass for going back to begin with the same night. If he had actually raped her as some of you are falsely accusing her of, then he should have and would have taken a shower, and changed clothes. It would have been much harder without the evidence on his body. Then again Kobe didn't exactly grow up in the neighborhood where I grew up and you had to be smarter then the police

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Whatever kind of r*pe it was it messed up his brains enough to drop a dime on Shaq to the cops.

I forgot to mention - Wasn't r*pe - it was blackmail to get easy money - and it worked and since she got paid for having sex - that makes her a prostitute

 

[OutlawImmortal]

Shaq was no saint, Shaq was as much, if not more of an asshole than Kobe was. Kobe was young, dumb and arrogant, what's Shaq's excuse for contributing to what Doc Rivers calls "the biggest travesty in sports" (the breaking up of Shaq and Kobe).

The 2002–03 season began with the three-time defending champions getting off to one of their worst starts ever. The team was several games under .500 at 11–19 with their return to the playoffs questionable. O'Neal was sidelined with hallux rigidus, a degenerative arthritis in his toe. O'Neal could have had surgery on his toe early in the summer (which would have allowed him to return to playing sooner), but he decided to wait and have the surgery performed not long before the Lakers' pre-season training camp began. He said, "I got hurt on company time, so I’ll rehab on company time." O'Neal debated whether to have a more invasive surgery that would have kept him out an additional three months, but he opted against the more involved procedure. During the season, Bryant had a nine-game streak where he scored at least 40 points and a 13-game streak where he scored 35 or better. Still, the relationship between O'Neal and Bryant remained peaceful.

O'Neal said his and Bryant's past barbs in the press was "almost like a game." They could handle it—until the 2003–04 season. Just prior to the season, Bryant privately warned Jackson, "If (O'Neal) starts saying (unreasonable) things in the press, I'll fire back ... I've had it." There had been no public indications of animosity between the two since the 2000–2001 season. With Bryant absent from camp due to his legal situation and his recovery from knee surgery, O'Neal said "the full team is here." Later, after sitting out an exhibition game to rest a sore left heel, O'Neal said, "I want to be right [in the regular season] for Derek [Fisher], Karl and Gary." Bryant was again ignored by O'Neal.

O'Neal was throwing blows at Kobe through the media, of course he would get back at him by revealing his little secret.

As the hearings began, the prosecution accused Bryant's defense team of attacking his accuser's credibility. It was revealed that she wore underpants containing another man's semen and pubic hair to her r*pe exam the day after the alleged incident. Detective Doug Winters stated that the yellow underwear she wore to her r*pe exam contained sperm from another man, along with Caucasian pubic hair. Bryant's defense stated that the exam results showed "compelling evidence of innocence" because the accuser must have had another sexual encounter immediately after the incident. She told investigators that she grabbed dirty underwear by mistake from her laundry basket when she left her home for the examination. On the day she was examined, she said she hadn’t showered since the morning of the incident. The examination found evidence of vaginal trauma, which Bryant’s defense team claimed was consistent with having sex with multiple partners in two days.
The evidence recovered by police included the T-shirt that Bryant wore the night of the incident, which had three small stains of the accuser's blood on it. The smudge was verified to be the accuser's blood by DNA testing and probably was not menstrual blood because the accuser said she had her period two weeks earlier. It was revealed that Bryant leaned the woman over a chair to have sex with her, which allegedly caused the bleeding. This was the sex act in question, as the accuser claims she told Bryant to stop but he would not, and Bryant claims he stopped after asking if he could ejaculate on her face.
Trina McKay, the resort's night auditor, said she saw the accuser as she was leaving to go home, and "she did not look or sound as if there had been any problem." However, Bobby Pietrack, the accuser's high school friend and a bellman at the resort, said she appeared to be very upset, and "told me that Kobe Bryant had forced sex with her."
A few weeks before the trial was scheduled to begin, the accuser wrote a letter to state investigator Gerry Sandberg clarifying some details of her first interview by Colorado police. She wrote, "I told Detective Winters that on that morning while leaving I had car troubles. That was not true. When I called in late to work that day that was the reason I gave my boss for being late. In all reality, I had simply overslept...I told Detective Winters that Mr. Bryant had made me stay in the room and wash my face. While I was held against my will in that room, I was not forced to wash my face. I did not wash my face. Instead I stopped at the mirror by the elevator on that floor to clean my face up. I am extremely disappointed in myself and also very sorry to anyone misled by that mix-up of information. I said what I said because I felt that Detective Winters did not believe what had happened to me."
Bryant's defense lawyer Pamela Mackey asserted that the accuser was taking an anti-psychotic drug for the treatment of schizophrenia at the time of the incident. The accuser was hospitalized as a "danger to herself" four months before the alleged sexual assault. Lindsey McKinney, who lived with the accuser, said the woman twice tried to kill herself at school by overdosing on sleeping pills. Before the alleged incident, the accuser, an aspiring singer, tried out for the television show American Idol with the song "Forgive" by Rebecca Lynn Howard, but failed to advance. In addition to the woman's moral character and reputation being challenged by Bryant's defense lawyer, she received death threats and hate mail.
On September 1, 2004 Eagle County District Judge Terry Ruckriegle dismissed the charges against Bryant, after prosecutors spent more than $200,000 preparing for trial, because his accuser informed them that she was unwilling to testify

If you think that's a sound r*pe case then you need to be on meds like the accuser.