I told you guys the Harvin trade was stupid

[dredinis21]

Dunce, it's not just a 1st, 3rd, and 7th, it's the HUGE contract he was handed as well. The player we got will cost us like 2mil this season, Harvin will cost significantly more. So if we ARE looking at facts, you have to look at salary as well.

 

[SeattleOspreys]

Dunce, it's not just a 1st, 3rd, and 7th, it's the HUGE contract he was handed as well. The player we got will cost us like 2mil this season, Harvin will cost significantly more. So if we ARE looking at facts, you have to look at salary as well.

When are we going to call it a 2013 - 4th rd = 2014 - 3rd rd.

Do you know if the player you drafted in Reid is going to be any good? If not, you gave up
a 1st and 3rd for what?

9ers did just give up a 1st for AJ who apparently, is still struggling. Hawks didn't want an
AJ Jenkins, so add minimal draft comp and get proven speed.

 

[SeattleOspreys]

Schneider is one of the top 3 GMs in the NFL when it comes to drafting, but he is one of the 3 worst in the NFL at free agent signings and high-profile trades.

All you guys from the espn boards LOVED to give me crap when I poo-pooed on our big signings, and yet I was right about them all.

What are you smokin or rather humping? :hdn:

We stole Beast Mode and pillaged the Eagles for Clemons. We gave Philly trash in DTapp
and received Clemons and a 4th rounder. Basically, Philly gave us Clem and a 4th for nada because
Tapp had no place on this roster. He wasn't a LEO, wasn't a LB, wasn't anything except
for practice fodder and was cut bait material.

EVERY major signing/trade has been a major mistake by the Hawks.

Just imagine how good we would be if we kept our 1st rounder and used our money on guys who will actually be playing for us.

No, it's imagine how bad we'd be if we hadn't inked PC/JS and signed Holmgren that many fans
wanted when Ruskell was canned. Holmgren took a Cleveland org that was in better shape than
the Hawks by FAR and they're still drafting in the top 7 and have a 1 yr 29 yo QB.

You're so wrong on many fronts yet can't see it through your delusion.

 

[gowazzu02]

Dunce, it's not just a 1st, 3rd, and 7th, it's the HUGE contract he was handed as well. The player we got will cost us like 2mil this season, Harvin will cost significantly more. So if we ARE looking at facts, you have to look at salary as well.

Just a fyi about the facts, Harvin costs 2 mill against the cap this year..... his contract gets more expensive as we move to next year and so on.

 

[SeattleOspreys]

Just a fyi about the facts, Harvin costs 2 mill against the cap this year..... his contract gets more expensive as we move to next year and so on.

It's more than $2 mm against the 2013 cap.

 

[dude82]

You mad that ONCE AGAIN I was the only one who was right?

Its amazing how often that happened over the years....

There were others who didn't like the Harvin trade/long-term extension, so saying you were the "only one" is just your ego talking, which is typical of you and considering his contract is a long-term one, you're jumping to conclusions very early, which is also typical of you. You think you're smarter than everyone on every board you go on and you're not afraid to say so which, surprisingly, turns people off to your opinions. Imagine that.

I have nothing to be mad about. Harvin was always a luxury move and the Seahawks wouldn't have done it if they thought it had any chance of impacting their ability to sign any of their core guys long-term. As I said before, it would have been fun to see what Harvin could do in this offense and we'll get to see that when he gets back, but his absence isn't going to sink the offense, so it's not a devastating loss.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

You mad that ONCE AGAIN I was the only one who was right?

Its amazing how often that happened over the years....

I got a couple of thoughts on this post.

A) It's a bit early to declare yourself right.
B) You were not the only one who had some concerns over trading for Harvin.
C) Mostly your just a negative windbag that likes to hear himself speak. I've never considered you a sports fan. You post just so you can proclaim yourself a genius and everyone else an idiot. Really has very little to do with being a sports fan.

Just FYI Briwas, this board isn't anything like Disney forum. Bring down the IQ of the board and you'll be given the boot.

 

[octagondd]

Schneider is one of the top 3 GMs in the NFL when it comes to drafting, but he is one of the 3 worst in the NFL at free agent signings and high-profile trades.

Zach Miller has earned less than half of what he has been paid (highest-paid blocking TE in NFL history BY A LOT).

Sidney Rice has earned less than half his money.

Now with Harvin we lost our 1st round pick and he became our highest paid player and now hes sidelined for 3-4 months.


All you guys from the espn boards LOVED to give me crap when I poo-pooed on our big signings, and yet I was right about them all.


EVERY major signing/trade has been a major mistake by the Hawks.


Just imagine how good we would be if we kept our 1st rounder and used our money on guys who will actually be playing for us.

Of course you did, now back to your little bouncer stool. Maybe you can use the time there to fill out your mensa application.

 

[Tech_God]

Why do I have the feeling that even if the Seahawks won the super bowl, briwas would be taking a dump on "his" team and still proclaiming that he is still right?

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Because he would. He's only interested in beating his chest and declaring himself a genius.

 

[David_son]

I completely disagree with your post.

To start with Zach Miller, at the time a 5 year $36m deal for a 25 year old Pro-Bowl TE was a great move. Obviously his production thus far has not matched is contract, but if the Seahawks did not sign Miller who would be the Seahawks starting TE? John Carlson was on the IR the year we signed Miller. I can't imagine having Anthony McCoy as the Seahawks starting TE instead of Miller.

Miller is a good player, overpaid but still a good player who if he did not spend so much time blocking would have the stats to match his contract.

Sidney Rice: Once again as with Zach Miller you could argue that the Rice signing was bad because of the financials but I have to make the same argument I did with Miller. At the time we were getting an outstanding player player who was not even 26 yet. He had/has injury concerns but can you imagine the WRs the Seahawks would have been throwing out there if not for Sidney Rice? I know there is a lot of love for Golden Tate on these boards suddenly, but by no stretch of the imagination is he a #1 WR.

In the overall scope of things the Sidney Rice signing will likely be looked back as a failure but it was no disaster. Unless he has a huge year this year, he will either have to have his contract restructured or he will be cut. At the time it was the right move, and when he is on the field he provides the Seahawks with an above average WR with good size. Something the Seahawks don't have on the roster currently.

The money the Seahawks spent on those two players likely could not have been spent any better than it was. Obviously the Sidney Rice thing did not work out, and if we could do it differently I assume we would. But the Zach Miller signing was the right signing and continues to be.

As far as the Percy Harvin trade goes I think we need more time to judge it. Honestly my bigger worry is the money committed to him, not the draft picks. Looking at the players selected around the Seahawks 1st rounder we sent to the Vikings, I can't picture that we lost out on anything huge. Once Harvin is out on the field he is one of the most explosive players in the NFL.

I think with the draft if you do look at who was taken Patterson, Woods, (the WR the Texans took) all considered high end talent so you could have gotten anyone of them and probably would have been just as good in the offense at half the price (because Harvin will want a big contract) and about 5 years younger.

 

[David_son]

Also you knock your GM you signed Winfield and Avril for cheap and they will really help out your defense. as previously stated you traded for Lynch he has pretty much built a team for the long haul in about 3 years so you really cant complain.

 

[octagondd]

Also you knock your GM you signed Winfield and Avril for cheap and they will really help out your defense. as previously stated you traded for Lynch he has pretty much built a team for the long haul in about 3 years so you really cant complain.

not to mention the, literally, hundreds of other moves made in PC/JS's first season alone

 

[Stratman72]

I don't care if it's beavis and butthead making the decisions. Bottom line is... we were a terrible team before Pc/Js got here, and in 3 years they have us as legitimate SB contenders. How can any true Hawk fan even question what they have done with our team? They have hit on a lot more signings than they have missed. That's success in my opinion!!! I am in absolute awe of what they have done to our team in such a short period of time!

Go Hawks!!!!

 

[Logicallylethal]

How long until we see Educasian

 

[HaroldSeattle]

How long until we see Educasian

Bite your tongue!

Actually I'm sure he'll check in sooner or later. I was actually hoping to shake some of these losers. Sigh...

 

[Kyle]

Harold we all Respect you for keeping this place a Adult Message Board!!!

 

[yossarian]

I want to be clear, I don't think this was a bad or bonehead decision by Schneider at all --- Harvin has or had world class speed and could score from any point on the field -- but I think it should be recognized that the risk in the move was the combination of draft picks and cap space that the Seahawks had to give up to get him, particularly given his injury history and his history of clashing with otherwise nice people like Leslie Frazier. And while someone earlier was talking about San Francisco giving up their first and 3rd rounder to get Reid, we already had a 3rd round pick in addition, and we got cheap talent to replace Dashon. It's just a lot to give up, and I am trying to think of when a receiver who was a free agent or acquired in a trade pushed a team into the Super Bowl and except for Jerry Rice being in Oakland I can't think of one example.

 

[NinerSickness]

It's just a lot to give up, and I am trying to think of when a receiver who was a free agent or acquired in a trade pushed a team into the Super Bowl and except for Jerry Rice being in Oakland I can't think of one example.

Keyshawn?

Moss?

TO?

 

[NinerSickness]

There you go, I knew my memory was fading. Do you think they really made the difference?

Well yeah. But you could say the same thing about any top players acquired the year of a SB run. Not just WRs.