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Again CLUELESS

I posted several times before you posted that the pacers were a better team , you clearly missed it since you posted after it with ‘ maybe the pacers are a better team. Dementia?
After you repeatedly insisting it is all on Thibs coaching. Maybe it is you that has the dementia forgetting that you posted the Pacers are the better team then blaming Thibs for losing.
You didn’t make any assumptions?

How bout the scrimmages comment you made in how Thibs prepares his players?

Since you’re not at a practice session, that has to be an assumption , remember when you assumption you make an ass of you Wamu tlance and a few others on here…
Do you mean the post that I literally closed with a comment to you about it being satire in case you didn't get it? And you think I am the one with a reading comprehension disorder?
Lastly, what’s changed in the 40 years in baseball. Honestly imo they have lowered the standards by tryin to cheat more. selig ruined the game by turning a blind eye to steroid use in players abusin it cause ya can’t lift and play ball at same time, takes 48 hours for muscle to heal after rippin them.. COMMON SENSE here, also the balls have been messed with and the bats they use today have a shellack finish on them which makes the BALL take off. The jug guns are BS, now everyone is thrown 100 MPH

What happened to BA’s. Can’t blame shift anymore…
We are talking basketball more than baseball. But let's see. With the advent of computers and a lot more video and data collected there is much more to analyze for strategy. Health, nutrition, supplements have all come a long way. There is so much money in pro sports kids start taking the training and metrics much more seriously far earlier. Just about everything about preparation has changed over the last 40 year. Yes, guys still need to go out and play the game, but to think it is close to what it was 40 years ago is naive and you don't even ever need to have played at the professional level to see that. Maybe you have to have played to believe that these guys are still doing the same things that you were.
 

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Open your freekin thick head already

There are similarities

Well I see you took your crazy pills today.

What possible similarities are there between today's NBA and your phoney baloney minor league baseball career?

Did you play for the South Carolina Buzz?
 

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After you repeatedly insisting it is all on Thibs coaching. Maybe it is you that has the dementia forgetting that you posted the Pacers are the better team then blaming Thibs for losing.

Do you mean the post that I literally closed with a comment to you about it being satire in case you didn't get it? And you think I am the one with a reading comprehension disorder?

We are talking basketball more than baseball. But let's see. With the advent of computers and a lot more video and data collected there is much more to analyze for strategy. Health, nutrition, supplements have all come a long way. There is so much money in pro sports kids start taking the training and metrics much more seriously far earlier. Just about everything about preparation has changed over the last 40 year. Yes, guys still need to go out and play the game, but to think it is close to what it was 40 years ago is naive and you don't even ever need to have played at the professional level to see that. Maybe you have to have played to believe that these guys are still doing the same things that you were.


Of course what you have written in the second of your responses is 100% true, but these aren’t actual scientists that are conducting experiments, all this data is being used and implemented by dummies, in a very damaging way to game…

I recently had a long convo with A former minor leaguer, he said he was a line drive hitter, gap hitter, a .300 avg . That used to be the fastest way to the 40 man roster..

But because of what you posted, they talked to him and told him he has to change his approach , to make him a long ball hitter, he quit , did not get released , he quit cause he couldn’t do it.

Btw, the kid was a second baseman
 

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Of course what you have written in the second of your responses is 100% true, but these aren’t actual scientists that are conducting experiments, all this data is being used and implemented by dummies, in a very damaging way to game…

I recently had a long convo with A former minor leaguer, he said he was a line drive hitter, gap hitter, a .300 avg . That used to be the fastest way to the 40 man roster..

But because of what you posted, they talked to him and told him he has to change his approach , to make him a long ball hitter, he quit , did not get released , he quit cause he couldn’t do it.

Btw, the kid was a second baseman
Anecdotal evidence is always the best, most relevant way to make a case.

Especially I heard it from an anonymous guy that these other anonymous professionals thought that they knew better than him with unverifiable stats thrown in.
 

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Anecdotal evidence is always the best, most relevant way to make a case. <----

Especially I heard it from an anonymous guy that these other anonymous professionals thought that they knew better than him with unverifiable stats thrown in.


Love the sarcasm, pasta probably thinks you're being serious.
 

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Of course what you have written in the second of your responses is 100% true, but these aren’t actual scientists that are conducting experiments, all this data is being used and implemented by dummies, in a very damaging way to game…

I recently had a long convo with A former minor leaguer, he said he was a line drive hitter, gap hitter, a .300 avg . That used to be the fastest way to the 40 man roster..

But because of what you posted, they talked to him and told him he has to change his approach , to make him a long ball hitter, he quit , did not get released , he quit cause he couldn’t do it.

Btw, the kid was a second baseman
I am sure this is what you understood of what he told you.

But if he could hit .300 in the majors hitting liners to the gap, play solid 2nd base, and run the bases they would not be telling him to become a long ball hitter. Everyone still needs lead off and follow up hitters to move runners and for the long ball hitters to drive in.

I'd love to hear the coaches' side. My guess is he wasn't going to make it to the bigs with the skills he had and they were telling him a way that he may have a path. That is a hard pill to swallow and admit to yourself.
 

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I am sure this is what you understood of what he told you.

But if he could hit .300 in the majors hitting liners to the gap, play solid 2nd base, and run the bases they would not be telling him to become a long ball hitter. Everyone still needs lead off and follow up hitters to move runners and for the long ball hitters to drive in.

I'd love to hear the coaches' side. My guess is he wasn't going to make it to the bigs with the skills he had and they were telling him a way that he may have a path. That is a hard pill to swallow and admit to yourself.


Is that why Judge was and Ohtanie is a lead off hitter?

Cmon man you’re over thinking this
 
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Is that why Judge was and Ohtanie is a lead off hitter?

Cmon man you’re over thinking this
C’mon man your believing a one sided anecdote that supports the narrative you want to believe.
 

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Your problem is that you think what minor league baseball players did in the 80s is the same as what NBA players do today.

It is not comparable.
 

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What?

I know what they aren’t.

Work ethic, preparation, etc.

Not the same.


All major sports today , the players prepare the same way , run lift and diet ,

Years ago they didn’t all prepare this way, but now they do , so to me it’s the same,

What’s different, they lift as much, run as much, and watch their diets

What am I missing here
 

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Your problem is that you think what minor league baseball players did in the 80s is the same as what NBA players do today.

It is not comparable.


You’re right

We worked our asses off, I had to lift my legs off the bed to walk to facility. If ya got caught gettin a ride or even a bike , you were sent packin . You think that happens at the big boy level?

Today they do what they want and it shows..
 

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Is that why Judge was and Ohtanie is a lead off hitter?

Cmon man you’re over thinking this
I would assume that is due to their high on base percentage. You are under thinking it.
 

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You’re right

We worked our asses off, I had to lift my legs off the bed to walk to facility. If ya got caught gettin a ride or even a bike , you were sent packin . You think that happens at the big boy level?

Today they do what they want and it shows..

Players today have to work a lot harder.

You had to work to get to the top. You didn’t make it.

Today guys at the top have to work to keep their spots. It is pretty obvious the guys who don’t. They are the exception, not the rule.
 

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I would assume that is due to their high on base percentage. You are under thinking it.


More at bats

It is beyond dumb

A home run hitter leading the game off with no one on base

The game has evolved
 

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Players today have to work a lot harder.

You had to work to get to the top. You didn’t make it.

Today guys at the top have to work to keep their spots. It is pretty obvious the guys who don’t. They are the exception, not the rule.


That’s a fukin insult

You have no idea what you are talkin about

We ran the the perimeter of the 4 fields to start the day off

We ran 100 yard sprints , and every 50 ft you did sqaut thrusts up and down with jumpin jacks , bout 10 of em…

Then we ran in a huge circle with glove in hand and line drives were fongo’d at our heads…

Mixed in limited fielding and hitting and a couple of game situations, ya know Like the pitchers coverin the bag and bunting, lol , the fundamentals which are clearly not worked on enough

Then we end the day with about 10 laps around 4 field perimeter…
 
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What you wrote was absolutely ridiculous

He wasn’t in the show
I never said he was in the show. I said they were showing him a path he could take to get to the show because his other skills may have been falling short. It’s right there if you actually read.
More at bats

It is beyond dumb

A home run hitter leading the game off with no one on base

The game has evolved
What is their on base percentage? Not every hit a home run hitter get is a home run. C’mon man, let those neurons do their job
 

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That’s a fukin insult

You have no idea what you are talkin about

We ran the the perimeter of the 4 fields to start the day off

We ran 100 yard sprints , and every 50 ft you did sqaut thrusts up and down with jumpin jacks , bout 10 of em…

Then we ran in a huge circle with glove in hand and line drives were fongo’d at our heads…

Mixed in limited fielding and hitting and a couple of game situations, ya know Like the pitchers coverin the bag and bunting, lol , the fundamentals which are clearly not worked on enough

Then we end the day with about 10 laps around 4 field perimeter…
Sorry, that sounds like what a high school team does.
 
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