NBA OFF TOPIC THREAD

[dtgold88]

Guardians are basically remaking the whole team on the fly while competing. To be in the market they are and to do so is pretty impressive.

all starts with the pitching development. No one produces home grown pitching better. Sucks their best pitching prospect in nearly 2 decades is injured--- but Bibee, Williams, and Allen are going to be good, cheap pitchers for them for a while.

It's a credit to the FO for sure.......but others in our same market like MN, Milwaukee and even Cinci are willing spenders when they can compete.

 

[dtgold88]

Not hard to 'compete' in that division this year.

No disagreement there....last season there were a couple divisions who were about the same or just a little better. Not this year. ALC is beyond bad.

Good for us.

 

[dtgold88]

Then so are the White Sox only 6 games back despite being 13 games under .500. Yet again, it’s the worst division in baseball and it not close.

And they’re 40-42. Nobody does it better. That’s the best 40-42 team I’ve ever seen.

about the same last year and won 90+. Win 90 and take division or 80 is fine by me.

 

[dtgold88]

nobody develops pitching better that is for sure. They do a great job drafting, and targeting under valued guys in trades. Bauer, Clevinger, Kluber were all trade guys.

If I was another team and the Guardians asked for pitching I would mark that guy as a guy not to trade.

they just trade elite pitching and dont lose a step. They have dealt guys like Bauer, Kluber, Clevinger, Lee, Sabathia (going back some time now of course)- and just keep getting new guys.

Bieber is prob. next to be traded but next year they put out McKenzie, Civale, Quintrell, Bibee, Allen, Williams- and maybe Espino- and still have some decent other minor league guys like Cantillo and Beytonfield for depth.

the thing is- most times paying starting pitching long term back fires too. Sabathia and Lee had some great years after being traded but Clevinger, Kluber were done- Bauer had a great short year in Cincy- and then was okay for one year in LAD.

Guardians just cant pay guys like Wheeler and Nola a combined 50M or whatever. I think Nola is up after this year too and will get a big raise if he stays healthy.

Phils actually have a couple good pitching prospects for the first time in a while in Painter and Abel--- but Painter has some injury issues. That is the thing about young pitching- if you have 4-5 guys that are really good- maybe 1 fails, 1 or 2 get hurt, and you get 2-3 good cheap starters that are controllable- which is probably the best asset in baseball.

Yep....cannot stand the Dolan model for overall spending, but no issue at all not paying pitchers megadeals as those rarely work out for teams for very long into the deal.

And as you say, this FO has been exceptional getting a good return in these deals.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Damn. I always liked Pat Fitzgerald.

Hmmmmmm.....

 

[dtgold88]

Because, he does not play for the Guardians.

You're welcome.

yet Trojan kind of agreed with him.

 

[bksballer89]

 

[Wamu]

75 years ago today Cleveland signed Satchel Paige. Two days later he made his MLB debut.

 

[msgkings322]

75 years ago today Cleveland signed Satchel Paige. Two days later he made his MLB debut.

That year he and Larry Doby became the first black players to be on a World Series winning team

And they haven't won another since....

 

[Wamu]

That year he and Larry Doby became the first black players to be on a World Series winning team

And they haven't won another since....

Doby was the first black player in the AL. Three months after Jackie.

The end of your comment made me laugh. Thanks Mr. Obvious!

 

[dtgold88]

That year he and Larry Doby became the first black players to be on a World Series winning team

And they haven't won another since....

so we've got that going for us?

 

[msgkings322]

Doby was the first black player in the AL. Three months after Jackie.

The end of your comment made me laugh. Thanks Mr. Obvious!

Longest drought left

 

[Sportsguy9695]

75 years ago today Cleveland signed Satchel Paige. Two days later he made his MLB debut.

Did you read the interesting article on andscape about this? I did it well worth it

 

[dtgold88]

Longest drought left

in baseball or all of sports?

 

[msgkings322]

in baseball or all of sports?

Baseball for sure, and longer than any NFL team if we are going by Super Bowls only. Longer than any NBA team I guess that's been around since 1948.

 

[DJ Fieri]

How many hits could you get off Ohtani in 100 pitches?

 

[DJ Fieri]

I am going with none.

Might get 5-6 foul balls.

 

[trojanfan12]

Worst robber ever...

 

[DJ Fieri]

Worst robber ever...

LOL.

 

[Mebert]

How many hits could you get off Ohtani in 100 pitches?

I would strike out 34 times, which is technically impossible.