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Is Baker Mayfield a Top 10 QB

Is Baker Mayfield a Top 10 QB


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dtgold88

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Yup he'll never be on the field for the Browns, they'll ask him to stay away and collect his paycheck. So worse case for Mayfield is collecting almost 19 million to stay home then becoming a free agent next season or the Browns trade him for what ever is offered and get this behind them.
Or they realize this is not a season to throw away - and leave emotions out of this - and play him thinking he's better than brissett (if Watson is suspended).
 

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If Watson got a long suspension (8-10 games or so) I agree....but just think there's too much bad blood at this point.
what bad blood? He said he felt disrespected and requested a trade. Big deal. Likely someone can get through to him if it came to that situation and made him understand playing and playing well is best for everyone.
 

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The answer is still absolutely not after all this time. Top 20? That's also a no.
 

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seems like the 2022 Browns will be trying to make a deep run. If Watson is suspended and they think Baker is better than brissett (and still on roster) why wouldn't they play him?

This is not like Houston last season who did not care if they lost games.
Too much has happened and if you can't see that.....I don't know what to tell you.
 

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what bad blood? He said he felt disrespected and requested a trade. Big deal. Likely someone can get through to him if it came to that situation and made him understand playing and playing well is best for everyone.
You think that happens? As brash, arrogant and cocky as he is?

No chance. I will bet he won't ever suit up for them again.
 

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Too much has happened and if you can't see that.....I don't know what to tell you.
You don't know what to tell me because this is overblown. Was there something worse than he said he felt disrespected and requested a trade that would have the Browns not do what gives them the best chance to win in the 2022 season?
 

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You think that happens? As brash, arrogant and cocky as he is?

No chance. I will bet he won't ever suit up for them again.
In fact, yes, I do think it would happen because of how brash, arrogant and cocky as he is. whether true or not, I'm confident he believes if healthy he can play well and this would give him the chance to show everyone.
 

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You think that happens? As brash, arrogant and cocky as he is?

No chance. I will bet he won't ever suit up for them again.
Browns lost their best window to trade Mayfield, because the one thing the Browns had going for them was the QB class this season was poor, but they let the draft come and go and still have Mayfield. I think at this point Mayfield would rather just get released then traded and I see things ramping up Antonio Brown style until he makes it happen.
 

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Browns lost their best window to trade Mayfield, because the one thing the Browns had going for them was the QB class this season was poor, but they let the draft come and go and still have Mayfield. I think at this point Mayfield would rather just get released then traded and I see things ramping up Antonio Brown style until he makes it happen.
I still think Carolina could be interested in Mayfield. They drafted Corral but Rhule's job is on the line.....think Corral is a future pick.

If Darnold doesn't look good in pre-season or if he gets hurt, I could see the Panthers trading a 4th for Mayfield if the Browns eat a portion of his contract. Gives them some insurance for Darnold. And Corral isn't saving Rhule's job.....I like him long term as a solid player but not when Rhule's job is on the line.
 

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I still think Carolina could be interested in Mayfield. They drafted Corral but Rhule's job is on the line.....think Corral is a future pick.

If Darnold doesn't look good in pre-season or if he gets hurt, I could see the Panthers trading a 4th for Mayfield if the Browns eat a portion of his contract. Gives them some insurance for Darnold. And Corral isn't saving Rhule's job.....I like him long term as a solid player but not when Rhule's job is on the line.
Neither is Mayfield. The Browns missed their window of opportunity. Either they were wanting more then was offered or maybe there flat isn't any interest in Mayfield.
 

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Neither is Mayfield. The Browns missed their window of opportunity. Either they were wanting more then was offered or maybe there flat isn't any interest in Mayfield.
Mayfield is a better QB than Darnold and Corral combined.

And Carolina has some weapons in Anderson, Moore, and McCaffrey.
 

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Gonna LOL if Seattle gets him.

Carroll didn't totally rule it out, said you always look to make your team better about a week or so ago.
 

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Mayfield is a better QB than Darnold and Corral combined.

And Carolina has some weapons in Anderson, Moore, and McCaffrey.
Bust is a bust, no point in ranking them. Panthers are stuck with Darnold now ( with a big salary which is one more reason not to trade for Mayfield) and Corral is dirt cheap and brings more anticipation then a retread for the third year in a row.
 

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Gonna LOL if Seattle gets him.

Carroll didn't totally rule it out, said you always look to make your team better about a week or so ago.
From what use to be called rotoworld:

Speaking Thursday, Seahawks coach Pete Carroll claimed the team was unlikely to dip into the veteran quarterback trade market.​

“I don’t see us making a trade for anybody at all. I don’t see that happening," were Carroll's exact words.
 

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Bust is a bust, no point in ranking them. Panthers are stuck with Darnold now ( with a big salary which is one more reason not to trade for Mayfield) and Corral is dirt cheap and brings more anticipation then a retread for the third year in a row.
Mayfield is no bust, You must have missed the 2018 and 2020 seasons. LOL.
 

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The question is really about tiers at this point.

I dont think NFL teams want veteran QBs who arent top 10. If you aren't at least Dak, Carr, Tannehill or Cousins then teams wont give you a franchise contract. And even then, only some teams will be willing to give that tier a shot.

Historically speaking, it makes sense. Brady and Peyton ran the AFC for a long time. The only teams who stood up to them where the Ravens and Steelers with their top defenses filled with Hall of Famers. Those are the two ways of winning. 2nd tier QBs might win you a Super Bowl. Maybe. But its not a reliable thing. Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Justin Herbert, and Joe Burrow are all young and winning. A lot. Nobody wants a 2nd tier QB eating up resources if you have to try and limit those offenses.
 

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Mayfield is no bust, You must have missed the 2018 and 2020 seasons. LOL.
He is a bust otherwise the Browns would of extended him, after all they used the overall first pick in the draft for him. Other then thinking he is a bust there is no reason to do what they did. 2020 Mayfield didn't do shit. From ESPN the 2020 QB rankings:

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See Mayfield right behind Bridgewater and slightly ahead of Daniel Jones?
 

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He is a bust otherwise the Browns would of extended him, after all they used the overall first pick in the draft for him. Other then thinking he is a bust there is no reason to do what they did. 2020 Mayfield didn't do shit. From ESPN the 2020 QB rankings:

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See Mayfield right behind Bridgewater and slightly ahead of Daniel Jones?
The Browns were how close to making the AFC title game after their playoff drought? The defense was at fault for them not making it to the AFC title game.

Stop it.
 

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The Browns were how close to making the AFC title game after their playoff drought? The defense was at fault for them not making it to the AFC title game.

Stop it.
Browns have had a good roster and whatever success they have had was in spite of Mayfield mediocre play.
 

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He is a bust otherwise the Browns would of extended him, after all they used the overall first pick in the draft for him. Other then thinking he is a bust there is no reason to do what they did. 2020 Mayfield didn't do shit. From ESPN the 2020 QB rankings:

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See Mayfield right behind Bridgewater and slightly ahead of Daniel Jones?
If you go back 1 year, the two QBs he is next to are Watson and Kyler Murray. I'm not sure this is the best way to measure a QB tbh.
 
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