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Dolphins head coach Brian Flores said the addition of Will Fuller and Jaylen Waddle will be a boon for the team's rushing offense.​

It checks out. Adding two burners to the Miami offense should, theoretically, force defenses to back off the line of scrimmage and potentially open up holes for Myles Gaskin and the rest of the Dolphins backs


Well sure...but first you have to demonstrate that not only will you throw to them, but that you can complete those passes, and that your line gives you the time. Oakland did that, didn't help thier run game. Denver did that, didn't help their run game. Luckily they both have competent RB's that could still get the job done. Safeties, by and large aren't stupid. If you never throw to the guy, or you can never throw it where it can be completed, they're not gonna be nearly as worried about being beat over the top.

Talk about an assbackwards approach to offense. Run the ball for 5 yards 10-15 times a game, Fuller and Waddle will be running free back there, and Gesiki can be George Kittle all over place
 

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Dolphins head coach Brian Flores said the addition of Will Fuller and Jaylen Waddle will be a boon for the team's rushing offense.​

It checks out. Adding two burners to the Miami offense should, theoretically, force defenses to back off the line of scrimmage and potentially open up holes for Myles Gaskin and the rest of the Dolphins backs


Well sure...but first you have to demonstrate that not only will you throw to them, but that you can complete those passes, and that your line gives you the time. Oakland did that, didn't help thier run game. Denver did that, didn't help their run game. Luckily they both have competent RB's that could still get the job done. Safeties, by and large aren't stupid. If you never throw to the guy, or you can never throw it where it can be completed, they're not gonna be nearly as worried about being beat over the top.

Talk about an assbackwards approach to offense. Run the ball for 5 yards 10-15 times a game, Fuller and Waddle will be running free back there
I cant stress the bolded part enough. The intention isnt enough. Tua must take a step for the Dolphins to take a step.
 

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I cant stress the bolded part enough. The intention isnt enough. Tua must take a step for the Dolphins to take a step.
he definitely needs to be better. No doubt but....

I said this on the main board. Tua really i think gets an unfair assessment last year.

injured
Covid/training camps etc

Then they make a very public switch, placing more pressure on him...then yank him in and out of games replacing him with fitz everytime he struggles, and tbh called some crappy games for him.

now im a proponent of ,this is the big leagues, you perform or sit. But with a young potential franchise qb, its a bit different.

was just odd. He was a humble , professional through it all.i really hope he succeeds.
 

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I cant stress the bolded part enough. The intention isnt enough. Tua must take a step for the Dolphins to take a step.
Right?? If you've got Manning, Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Mahommes..etc...they can make those plays work, they don't need to suck the LB's and safeties in to make plays downfield, the fit it into those tight windows regardless, or, they themselves suck the safeties into a bad position. Teams that don't have a QB who can make those kinds of plays, MUST have a strong ground game to help them out. Tau isn't that guy yet, Matt Ryan isn't that guy- Ryan's greatest season , 2016- his only all pro, only MVP, only offensive POY came, with Freeman and Coleman rushing for 1600 and 19 scores- , Kyler Murray isn't quite there yet either..but sure, let's get those passing game weapons to open up the run game...smdh
 

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Side note, i hope im wrong. But unless the steelers with canada at OC make some major changes schematically. Najee is likely gonna have 15-20 carries for 45-60 yards a game
 

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Side note, i hope im wrong. But unless the steelers with canada at OC make some major changes schematically. Najee is likely gonna have 15-20 carries for 45-60 yards a game
You do bring up a great point, but the Steelers are in better shape than other situations these rookies are landing in.
(I do my own offensive ranking combining a few stat categories.)
PIT ranked 12th which isn't bad.
But guys like Etienne, Javonte, Chase and Carter all landed on teams that were in the bottom 6 in terms of offensive production.
That's expecting a lot for these rookies to not only expect tons of touches, but to make a gigantic improvement on their NFL teams.
 

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You do bring up a great point, but the Steelers are in better shape than other situations these rookies are landing in.
(I do my own offensive ranking combining a few stat categories.)
PIT ranked 12th which isn't bad.
But guys like Etienne, Javonte, Chase and Carter all landed on teams that were in the bottom 6 in terms of offensive production.
That's expecting a lot for these rookies to not only expect tons of touches, but to make a gigantic improvement on their NFL teams.
The offense will be fine. It was last year too. Hes in good shape because hes the unquestioned bell cow. But they couldnt run period. the steelers offense was fairly highly ranked despite at best a bottom 5 run game. I dont knw the ranks off the top of my head tbh.

Perhaps najee gets major boosts from the td side and receptions. Buy the run lanes just wont be there. We opted to throw 50 times a game last year
 

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We opted to throw 50 times a game last year
Still think that's a good situation for a rookie to be in. An offense that moves the ball (period) is more likely to have some fruitful redzone opportunities compared to a team that has trouble not going 3-and-out, and struggles to march the offense down field.
 

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Still think that's a good situation for a rookie to be in. An offense that moves the ball (period) is more likely to have some fruitful redzone opportunities compared to a team that has trouble not going 3-and-out, and struggles to march the offense down field.
In gonna circle back to this later with some cringeworthy stats, for fun.
 

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In gonna circle back to this later with some cringeworthy stats, for fun.
Yeah Steelers were a bad run blocking team last year, but the Steelers are not the kind of team to let that stand. They'll fix that OL and I think lots of changes being made to it.
 

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Yeah Steelers were a bad run blocking team last year, but the Steelers are not the kind of team to let that stand. They'll fix that OL and I think lots of changes being made to it.
But, nothing theyve done thus far suggests that...
 

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But, nothing theyve done thus far suggests that...
You go 11-0, and then go to absolute shit and get bounced right away, I can't imagine Tomlin is gonna just allow status quo, he'll be on that OC to change some stuff up. Maybe they didn't get that many personal changes, but scheme wise, perhaps a few tweaks can cover up some things. Thankfully they've got a QB who can handle tweaks without falling apart
 

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You go 11-0, and then go to absolute shit and get bounced right away, I can't imagine Tomlin is gonna just allow status quo, he'll be on that OC to change some stuff up. Maybe they didn't get that many personal changes, but scheme wise, perhaps a few tweaks can cover up some things. Thankfully they've got a QB who can handle tweaks without falling apart
LoL. You don't know how tomlin and pittsburgh rolls, or their plan for this year.
 

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Well I know he's been around a long damned time and isn't about to be embarrassed because of coaching, his or his staff's
Tht shows that you dont follow the staff lol.

look theyre duck taping it together. Theyre praying they can do more this year, with less, and get lucky. That things just fall there way this year. They have no other choice. Even canada is from within. Some semi new concepts, but yeah. Nothing ground breaking. Well See.
 

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Tht shows that you dont follow the staff lol.

look theyre duck taping it together. Theyre praying they can do more this year, with less, and get lucky. That things just fall there way this year. They have no other choice. Even canada is from within. Some semi new concepts, but yeah. Nothing ground breaking. Well See.
Well if that's the case, and Tomlin is just allowing it to happen, my respect for him just took a huge hit
 

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Well if that's the case, and Tomlin is just allowing it to happen, my respect for him just took a huge hit
Well.Its a credit and a fault. He generally never makes drastic changes. To his credit, alot of times everyone thougt big changes needed to happen , he held pat and righted things.

other times hes way too slow. He knows what he wants to do and he has had great success with it. But hes stubborn. As far as the offense goes, we almost always promote within, reasons for that, consistency.

i wont be shocked if they duck tape it and make it work or even excel. But they didnt add pieces and arent changing things majorly schematically. The biggest run game upgrade is going to be having the big ol TE they drafted as an h back in canadas system. None of our running backs were the issue last year. Not even close.
 

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Tht shows that you dont follow the staff lol.

look theyre duck taping it together. Theyre praying they can do more this year, with less, and get lucky. That things just fall there way this year. They have no other choice. Even canada is from within. Some semi new concepts, but yeah. Nothing ground breaking. Well See.
Maybe as a fan, that's how you see it. Believe me, I can relate. But I think I am in Treff's corner in that from my perspective, Tomlin does tend to motivate these guys in the right direction. I wish my coach could take duct tape and get a 12-4 season out of it.
 

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Other teams (J.E.T.S. Jets, Jets, Jets!) would kill to have a coach like Tomlin.
@SteelersPride as a fan, consider yourself lucky to have watched a great run that Tomlin's Steelers have had.
Just my opinion, bro. :)
 

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Other teams (J.E.T.S. Jets, Jets, Jets!) would kill to have a coach like Tomlin.
@SteelersPride as a fan, consider yourself lucky to have watched a great run that Tomlin's Steelers have had.
Just my opinion, bro. :)
17 years hasn't it been?? And before that Cowher, and Knoll??? Steelers fans have been awfully spoiled with quality, consistent, and reliable head coaching for like 4 decades straight
 
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