MrS
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its not easy to get elite players in that range, but it is to get starters especially at positions like G, RT and C.Again, the accepted wisdom is that your typical draft has a top tier of solid first rounders of 15 to 20 players deep. This year is thought to be on the thin side due to other factors. We haven't drafted in that range for years. If Adams was drafted this year he woukd be a top pick and certainly cost you more than two 1sts, even in the #23 range.
sure he is better in space than kam, but not nearly as good as earl was. he feels like a jack of all trades master of none, which is fine i just dont see the trade value adding up.You are also right in that Adams is worse in many categories than Thomas and Kam were. But unfortunately for your comparision Thomas and Kam are 2 seperate players (but Kenny Easley was close to a hybrid of the two!). Adams is as effective in coverage as Kam, just in a different way. Adams is more capable of covering in space (such as a zone), while Kam matched up a bit better with TEs and such.
you said players and coaches, media people are wh*res seeking attention they will say anything.As to your questions:
*All the talking heads on national stations and radio discussed his early HOF track during the trade last year. Literally everyone. Here is an SI article from before last season that proposed him as a top-10 player in the entire NFL! (No, I personally don't think he is a top-10 overall player)
the wins are not from making trades, they are 90% because of russell wilson and good defensive coaching. if you did an analysis of the first round trades I think you would find we got very little value out of them.*The value the Seahawks have received from trades is debatable but I would say that each trade needs to be evaluated individually, and that this regime's success speaks for itself (Please don't make me post the historic W/L numbers again).
I dont think wagner has been elite the past few years, still good but not dominating games anymore.I agree you need elite players. I disagree that we don't have them on D. Wagner is still elite, and so is Adams. I am hoping Dunlap can be a DL difference maker for a couple more years also.
the knock on him in new york was that he was a cancer, if the team starts losing he might turn into one here.Read this article. It speaks on Adams' leadership skills and value in the locker room. It is an aspect we haven't discussed about him. He has been reported to be a great locker room guy. It also has some great breakdowns of his stats.