The Seattle Seahawks have traded for Jamaal Adams

[NWPATSFAN]

You wildly biased against the Seahawks. There are some Seahawks homers who are saying that this was a home run trade for the Seahawks. You are the opposite arguing that it was a terrible trade and intentionally frame it as negatively as possible.

Rational people who at least try to be objective will admit that it is too early to tell whether this is a great or terrible trade for either side.

If Jamal Adams is a perennial All-Pro over the next 5-6 years with the Seahawks then this is a hands down for the Seahawks. If he leaves after this contract or regresses as a player then it is a bad trade for the Seahawks. It's that simple. That you can't even accept the possibility that this trade might work for the Seahawks gives the game away about your motives.

Take off the homer glasses. I've said multiple times how much of an upgrade Adams is.

But unlike you and others I'm not going to sugarcoat it.

I see how you and others are changing the criteria on how they'll rate if this was a good trade or not?

With that much draft and monetary capital invested. Fans should call for JS and PC heads if it doesn't result in a SB. They went all in, not to see Adams make PBs.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

He said Top 10 and then spent 13 minutes explaining why. You converted that to Top 5 and then stopped watching the video because you aren't going to listen to anything that goes against your trolling.

I'm not going back to watch it. I'm quite sure he said top 5? If I'm wrong I apoligize. Regardless it's still laughable saying he's top 10.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

It's a first alright. I've noticed how fans from the Seahawks division competitors are vigorously knocking the trade and I smell fear. This trade makes the Seahawks stronger in several ways. Better pass defense, better pass rush and better run defense, so a better defense. Sounds like something ever team would want or should.

it’s our job

 

[flyerhawk]

With that much draft and monetary capital invested. Fans should call for JS and PC heads if it doesn't result in a SB. They went all in, not to see Adams make PBs.

This isn't basketball. One player, outside of QB, doesn't determine whether a team wins a Super Bowl or not.

I didn't say Pro Bowls. I said All-Pros. Why do you constantly change words that are said?

Like I said, you have already decreed that this was a terrible trade for the Seahawks.

 

[flyerhawk]

I'm not going back to watch it. I'm quite sure he said top 5? If I'm wrong I apoligize. Regardless it's still laughable saying he's top 10.

He said Top 10. It's hardly laughable. He was the best player on a bad team last year. And the NFL network put him at 27.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

He said Top 10. It's hardly laughable. He was the best player on a bad team last year. And the NFL network put him at 27.

So 27 is close to 10 in your world?

If it's not laughable you're trying to tell me Adams would be top 10 in the NFL in your opinion? Maybe this is why we differ?

 

[flyerhawk]

So 27 is close to 10 in your world?

If it's not laughable you're trying to tell me Adams would be top 10 in the NFL in your opinion? Maybe this is why we differ?

It's not laughable because whether he is the 9th or the 20th or the 40th best player, he is considered a top tier player. I didn't say he was a Top 10 player. Brett Kolman did. He is an objective football analyst that spends a lot of time watching All-22 film and analyzing players.

Here's Peter King say that he would do this "every day of the week and twice on Sundays" if he was the Seahawks. He said it isn't even a hard decision.


But hey, what do they know? You, a clearly objective and definitely not a dedicated Seahawks hater, seem to know better.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

It's not laughable because whether he is the 9th or the 20th or the 40th best player, he is considered a top tier player. I didn't say he was a Top 10 player. Brett Kolman did. He is an objective football analyst that spends a lot of time watching All-22 film and analyzing players.

Here's Peter King say that he would do this "every day of the week and twice on Sundays" if he was the Seahawks. He said it isn't even a hard decision.


But hey, what do they know? You, a clearly objective and definitely not a dedicated Seahawks hater, seem to know better.

Do you feel better now?

It is laughable when you're using that to justify your stance.

There are way more experts saying Seattle got the short end of this stick.

But hey cherry pick, sugarcoat and continue to change your arguement. It's all good.

 

[flyerhawk]

There are way more experts saying Seattle got the short end of this stick.

Like who?

 

[Southieinnc]

Seattle is not done paying.....

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Seattle is not done winning.....

/QUOTE]

Fixed for accuracy.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Like who?

OK, please just stop now. You're entering Eagle homerism level.

 

[flyerhawk]

OK, please just stop now. You're entering Eagle homerism level.

I guarantee I've read more stuff about this trade than you have. I can easily provide a long list of national correspondents that say that this was a no brainer for the Seahawks.

So who are all these national people that are blasting Seattle for the trade? Don't cop out and just say it as if it is a given.

 

[flyerhawk]

Seattle is not done paying.....

I think New England is now paying him.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

I guarantee I've read more stuff about this trade than you have. I can easily provide a long list of national correspondents that say that this was a no brainer for the Seahawks.

So who are all these national people that are blasting Seattle for the trade? Don't cop out and just say it as if it is a given.

You are cute.
You guarentee.

 

[flyerhawk]

You are cute.
You guarentee.

Still waiting on you to back up your claim. You can keep trying to deflect but I'll keep asking you to back up your claim.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Still waiting on you to back up your claim. You can keep trying to deflect but I'll keep asking you to back up your claim.

OK I'll play your childish game. Guess it was too difficult for you to Google with an open mind.

Did the Seahawks give up too much to trade for Jamal Adams?

Reactions to the Seahawks trade for Jamal Adams

How many do you need for justification?

How long before you tell me these aren't credible?

Maybe you haven't read more about this trade than me? Seems like they're saying exactly what I and many outside the 206 have been saying.

 

[Cave_Johnson]

Did the Seahawks give up too much to trade for Jamal Adams?

"This deal is worth it as the Seahawks continue to contend and draft at the end of the first round for the next two years, Adams continues to produce at an All-Pro level and can settle in to a long term contract with Seattle. "

Yeah, sounds like they are really panning the trade. This is neutral at best.

Reactions to the Seahawks trade for Jamal Adams

There are 5 tweets in that article. 3 are NY based accounts talking about how good it could be for the Jets (only one of those even mentions Seattle). Two of them don't like the trade.

So two of those six sources agree with you.

Yup. Sounds like this trade is definitely universally thought of as a bad move for Seattle. Good job.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

"This deal is worth it as the Seahawks continue to contend and draft at the end of the first round for the next two years, Adams continues to produce at an All-Pro level and can settle in to a long term contract with Seattle. "

Yeah, sounds like they are really panning the trade. This is neutral at best.

There are 5 tweets in that article. 3 are NY based accounts talking about how good it could be for the Jets (only one of those even mentions Seattle). Two of them don't like the trade.

So two of those six sources agree with you.

Yup. Sounds like this trade is definitely universally thought of as a bad move for Seattle. Good job.

Did you read this with or without your homer glasses?

Funny how you didn't credit this from the first post. Intentional or not?
John Fraley joins the Field Gulls podcast for an immediate reaction to the deal and thinks perhaps the Seahawks gave up too much for Adams.

There is nothing but negativr WRT Seattle in the second link.

Thanks for proving my point about credibility and justification though.

 

[Cave_Johnson]

Did you read this with or without your homer glasses?

Funny how you didn't credit this from the first post. Intentional or not?
John Fraley joins the Field Gulls podcast for an immediate reaction to the deal and thinks perhaps the Seahawks gave up too much for Adams.

So the article had one negative take and then said it was worth it (positive take) at the end. That's neutral at best. I don't know what the fuck you're reading.

There is nothing but negativr WRT Seattle in the second link.

Thanks for proving my point about credibility and justification though.

Again, there are two opinions there criticizing the trade from Seattle's perspective. Then three are NY based writers/NY Jets accounts calling it good from a Jets perspective. Not exactly overwhelming panning of the trade from experts like you claim.

You said "There are way more experts saying Seattle got the short end of this stick."

Your links do not back this up. You have proven nothing other than different opinions exist.