Lebrons Cavs vs Jordan’s Bulls

[msgkings322]

AI will always be a top five favorite player for me

Who are the other 4?

I can't make a list with only 5, but here are my top 10 players in terms of watching how they played on the court (personality, team loyalty, etc have nothing to do with this list):

In no order:

Iverson
Shaq
Jordan
Jason Williams
Curry
Kidd
LeBron
Magic
Bird
Nash

Not that original but there's a reason all but one of these were all big time stars and no doubt HOFers

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Who are the other 4?

I can't make a list with only 5, but here are my top 10 players in terms of watching how they played on the court (personality, team loyalty, etc have nothing to do with this list):

In no order:

Iverson
Shaq
Jordan
Jason Williams
Curry
Kidd
LeBron
Magic
Bird
Nash

Not that original but there's a reason all but one of these were all big time stars and no doubt HOFers

Dumars
D Lo (OSU)
Iverson
LeBron
Rip

 

[Stakesarehigh]

It's funny because Evan Turner would make more sense because he was a better overall player for OSU but he's a dickhead

Mark Titus hates that dude.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Which if anyone has not read Mark Titus's stuff he's hilarious

 

[flyerhawk]

Curry is bigger and likely stronger than Iverson, and he actually deals with a lot of physical play in today's NBA. And he hasn't really had injury problems for a while until this freak hand injury.

Curry is taller than Iverson. I doubt he was stronger. And he certainly wasn't tougher or more durable.

I'm not bad mouth Curry in any way. But to pretend that he could just adjust to the most physical era in modern NBA history without a problem is just silly.

 

[Robotech]

Curry is taller than Iverson. I doubt he was stronger. And he certainly wasn't tougher or more durable.

I'm not bad mouth Curry in any way. But to pretend that he could just adjust to the most physical era in modern NBA history without a problem is just silly.

He's got 20-30 lbs on Iverson. And Iverson was notorious for partying all the time. I doubt he lifted weights like Curry.

Iverson has even admitted that Curry has better handles. Sure, all players today would have to adjust, but it's silly to assume Curry couldn't make it and that he wouldn't stay on the floor.

 

[flyerhawk]

He's got 20-30 lbs on Iverson. And Iverson was notorious for partying all the time. I doubt he lifted weights like Curry.

Iverson has even admitted that Curry has better handles. Sure, all players today would have to adjust, but it's silly to
assume Curry couldn't make it and that he wouldn't stay on the floor.

He wouldn't stay on the floor because he would be battered.

Gotta say I was expecting more "Jordan would just wipe the floor with everyone" stans than Curry stans.

 

[Robotech]

He wouldn't stay on the floor because he would be battered.

Gotta say I was expecting more "Jordan would just wipe the floor with everyone" stans than Curry stans.

You're assuming that a great player wouldn't be able to stay on the floor. There were less gifted and smaller guards in the '90s that didn't get battered off the floor.

 

[flyerhawk]

You're assuming that a great player wouldn't be able to stay on the floor. There were less gifted and smaller guards in the '90s that didn't get battered off the floor.

I'm assuming that if you take any player and just throw him into a different era, there would be a huge adjustment.

Would Curry adjust? Almost certainly but if he were just transported to 1992 he would be just shocked at how defenders could basically knock him down and not get called.

And don't get me started on what would happen to Draymond Green as a Center in 1992.

My point here isn't that any of these players are better or worse. My point is that the game was very different back then.

 

[tlance]

I think BJ and Steph are good comparisons. AI is not. Those other 2 didn’t go to the hole like AI did

Curry actually goes to the hole a lot. Not like AI whose game was built on it, but he gets about 4-5 shots a game at the rim off of his drives. That isn’t a small number. There are all time great power forwards like Dirk and Karl Malone who took a lot fewer shots in the paint.

 

[tlance]

You're right that Windhorst said that.

But that bit about "he didn't know until just before he announced it" is bs that they came up with to try to make the suicidal Cavs fans feel better, imo.

That might be true.

I tend to think he was leaning to leaving, but not 100% decided yet. And that he knew all along it was either Cleveland or Miami.

 

[tlance]

I'm assuming that if you take any player and just throw him into a different era, there would be a huge adjustment.

Would Curry adjust? Almost certainly but if he were just transported to 1992 he would be just shocked at how defenders could basically knock him down and not get called.

And don't get me started on what would happen to Draymond Green as a Center in 1992.

My point here isn't that any of these players are better or worse. My point is that the game was very different back then.

I do think Curry would have adjusted if given the leash to become the great player he is. Probably wouldn’t have been an MVP, but still could have been a great player in the 90s if used correctly.

There is also a distinct possibility that he would not have ever made it to the NBA coming up specifically in the 90s era. He may not have been developed the way that he was and he may have simply been viewed as a shooter too small to play the 2. And lots of old school coaches from back then wouldn’t let Curry take some of the shots he does regardless of his efficiency.

A lot off things had to click perfectly between high school and college for Curry to make the NBA. Remember, he was a very lightly recruited diminutive guard who almost went to VA Tech as a walk-on. One thing I would bet on is that he would not have had the same opportunity/investment from coaching staff to develop at Tech that he was afforded at Davidson. And there is a very real possibility he wouldn’t have ever risen to the level where he was a legit NBA prospect had he gone that route.

 

[trojanfan12]

That might be true.

I tend to think he was leaning to leaving, but not 100% decided yet. And that he knew all along it was either Cleveland or Miami.

He may have been holding out hope that the Cavs would pull off some big trade or land an FA who had something more than name recognition left.

But I think the decision was essentially made before the end of game 6 in the Eastern Conference Semi's.

They set the wheels in motion to team up when they were on the Olympic team. Plus, Wade was starting to get older, if there was a time they were going to do it, that was it.

I'm not saying it wasn't a difficult decision, I'm sure it was. Especially since he hadn't won a title there yet.

But it was gonna take something like Gilbert somehow pulling a contending roster out of his ass to stop him going to the Heat.

Here's an interesting question. Suppose he had won a title in Cleveland during his first stint there...

Does he ever return to Cleveland? Or, does he never leave in the first place?

 

[trojanfan12]

Curry is bigger and likely stronger than Iverson, and he actually deals with a lot of physical play in today's NBA. And he hasn't really had injury problems for a while until this freak hand injury.

There is no comparison between physical play today and what they were doing in the 90's.

There was a lot more physical play in the 80's than there is today and it got a lot more physical in the 90's.

Compared to the 80's and today's game, there were times in the 90's when the games looked more like a WWE Last Man Standing Match than a basketball game. lol

 

[trojanfan12]

I do think Curry would have adjusted if given the leash to become the great player he is. Probably wouldn’t have been an MVP, but still could have been a great player in the 90s if used correctly.

I think he could have been a shorter Reggie Miller. Speaking of Reggie, he doesn't get mentioned a lot...

but he's someone from the 90's that I would love to see in today's game.

Would have been a blast to see he and Steph trading 3's when their teams played each other.

 

[Shanemansj13]

It's funny because Evan Turner would make more sense because he was a better overall player for OSU but he's a dickhead

Mark Titus hates that dude.

Well if we are talking about Ohio St...what about Aaron Craft lol. Man I swear he was one of the best defenders I have ever seen at any level for his size and extremely quick feet.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Well if we are talking about Ohio St...what about Aaron Craft lol. Man I swear he was one of the best defenders I have ever seen at any level for his size and extremely quick feet.

I didn't understand why his defense alone didn't get him in the league. Like Delly

Believe he won DPOY in.the NBDL

 

[Shanemansj13]

You're assuming that a great player wouldn't be able to stay on the floor. There were less gifted and smaller guards in the '90s that didn't get battered off the floor.

Mark Price is a pretty good comparison. Curry would be fine...like others have said he might not be a MVP or as great but he would still be a damn good player. Like I have always said, players play to the rules. If Lebron was playing in the 80's...he would be a bruiser

 

[Shanemansj13]

I didn't understand why his defense alone didn't get him in the league. Like Delly

Believe he won DPOY in.the NBDL

Same. I mean he was pretty awful at shooting but he wasn't bad at finishing. I guess when he got to the next level his offensive deficiencies were just too much

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Same. I mean he was pretty awful at shooting but he wasn't bad at finishing. I guess when he got to the next level his offensive deficiencies were just too much

Too bad they couldn't morph his defense and Dieblers shooting