could we be the worst team in the NFL ?

[Skins2021]

Does it? So throwing the ball to Randy Moss is less important than playing against Patrick Peterson when Peterson is on the other side of the field?

Not everybody in the SEC is pro level. Why isn’t Terry Bradshaw ever mentioned among the super elites in history? Because people realize he played a part but it was a part quite a few could have played. He was surrounded by what...11 HOFers? When you play with greatness, it can mask your deficiencies.

uhhh.. yeah?

Thats some serious mental gymnastics

SEC has the most talent and league play is closest to the NFL, this isnt really debateable. How would Burrow be less prepared playing with and against better NFL prospects/talent?

You are wrong and your logic is wrong. Get over it

Guess we will see in 5 years between Haskins and Burrow. Basically the polar opposite QBs.

 

[gkekoa]

uhhh.. yeah?

Thats some serious mental gymnastics

SEC has the most talent and league play is closest to the NFL, this isnt really debateable. How would Burrow be less prepared playing with and against better NFL prospects/talent?

You are wrong and your logic is wrong. Get over it

Guess we will see in 5 years between Haskins and Burrow. Basically the polar opposite QBs.

Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Russell Wilson, Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Deshaun Watson...how far down the QB list do we need to go to get to the best SEC QB going against all that competition?

Christian McCaffery, Ezekiel Elliot, and Saquon Barkley are the three best RBs (my opinion obviously), how far do we go until we hit the SEC and all that competition?

How far in the WR category?

You see...it does matter who you play against, but it also matters who you play with. If you have stars around you, they can make you look better or over shadow you.

 

[Skins2021]

Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Russell Wilson, Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Deshaun Watson...how far down the QB list do we need to go to get to the best SEC QB going against all that competition?

Christian McCaffery, Ezekiel Elliot, and Saquon Barkley are the three best RBs (my opinion obviously), how far do we go until we hit the SEC and all that competition?

How far in the WR category?

You see...it does matter who you play against, but it also matters who you play with. If you have stars around you, they can make you look better or over shadow you.

Huh? An argument was never made that you cant be successful outside of the SEC so not sure where you are going with that.

1 side of your mouth you list all of the 1st round players Burrow played with compared to Haskins on the other side of your mouth you say that doesn't matter. So what is it?

There is a reason the SEC dominates the 1st round of the draft year after year. Basically the NFLs Triple A.

How is it not an advantage to play with and against NFL level talent? Probably the biggest recruiting tactic Saban uses.

 

[gkekoa]

Huh? An argument was never made that you cant be successful outside of the SEC so not sure where you are going with that.

1 side of your mouth you list all of the 1st round players Burrow played with compared to Haskins on the other side of your mouth you say that doesn't matter. So what is it?

There is a reason the SEC dominates the 1st round of the draft year after year. Basically the NFLs Triple A.

How is it not an advantage to play with and against NFL level talent? Probably the biggest recruiting tactic Saban uses.

You used the SEC as reasoning for Burrow being a better prospect than Haskins.

Actually, I listed the amount of first round players Burrow had on his team in the first three rounds in comparison to Burrow to help explain the success of LSU, which was used in support of Burrow.

But how does it translate, in particular with QBs? It doesn’t.

You seem to misunderstand the discussion. Playing alongside NFL players and against NFL players will make the transition to the NFL easier...I don’t refute that. I refute any statement that says who you play alongside doesn’t matter, or is insignificant regarding your collegiate success. Burrow had greater talent around him than the teams he played against, as evidenced by this last draft. Of course that will make Burrow look good.

I will make the argument for you. Burrow has a quicker release, better accuracy, and more mobility than Haskins. These are attributes you can back up with evidence. It doesn’t make the statement true, but it can be supported. It also gives you a reasonable argument.

 

[skinsdad62]

You used the SEC as reasoning for Burrow being a better prospect than Haskins.

Actually, I listed the amount of first round players Burrow had on his team in the first three rounds in comparison to Burrow to help explain the success of LSU, which was used in support of Burrow.

But how does it translate, in particular with QBs? It doesn’t.

You seem to misunderstand the discussion. Playing alongside NFL players and against NFL players will make the transition to the NFL easier...I don’t refute that. I refute any statement that says who you play alongside doesn’t matter, or is insignificant regarding your collegiate success. Burrow had greater talent around him than the teams he played against, as evidenced by this last draft. Of course that will make Burrow look good.

I will make the argument for you. Burrow has a quicker release, better accuracy, and more mobility than Haskins. These are attributes you can back up with evidence. It doesn’t make the statement true, but it can be supported. It also gives you a reasonable argument.

His thing is trolling , nothing more ,nothing less . Maybe he should go to the eagles board and talk about his team

 

[Stymietee]

His thing is trolling , nothing more ,nothing less . Maybe he should go to the eagles board and talk about his team

Naw, I like the guy, he's funny... we can use more humor during this time.

 

[tomcat1]

Naw, I like the guy, he's funny... we can use more humor during this time.

Why do you think I like you? It's because you are funny too but you also bring substance to the party.

 

[Skins2021]

His thing is trolling , nothing more ,nothing less . Maybe he should go to the eagles board and talk about his team

outstanding contribution

I think we need another thread about draft grades

 

[Skins2021]

You used the SEC as reasoning for Burrow being a better prospect than Haskins.

Actually, I listed the amount of first round players Burrow had on his team in the first three rounds in comparison to Burrow to help explain the success of LSU, which was used in support of Burrow.

But how does it translate, in particular with QBs? It doesn’t.

You seem to misunderstand the discussion. Playing alongside NFL players and against NFL players will make the transition to the NFL easier...I don’t refute that. I refute any statement that says who you play alongside doesn’t matter, or is insignificant regarding your collegiate success. Burrow had greater talent around him than the teams he played against, as evidenced by this last draft. Of course that will make Burrow look good.

I will make the argument for you. Burrow has a quicker release, better accuracy, and more mobility than Haskins. These are attributes you can back up with evidence. It doesn’t make the statement true, but it can be supported. It also gives you a reasonable argument.

If playing in the SEC makes the transition to the NFL easier how is that not a + when comparing prospects?

actually one of the very few knocks on Burrow is his release.

he is one of the most cerebral qbs to come out in a long time. Being able to make adjustments at the line, reading coverages, and pocket awareness/mobility inside and outside pocket is >>>>>>>> arm strength

 

[gkekoa]

If playing in the SEC makes the transition to the NFL easier how is that not a + when comparing prospects?

actually one of the very few knocks on Burrow is his release.

he is one of the most cerebral qbs to come out in a long time. Being able to make adjustments at the line, reading coverages, and pocket awareness/mobility inside and outside pocket is >>>>>>>> arm strength

I think you need to reread his release stats.

I agree those things are better than arm strength. That is why I said he can still be very successful. Can you not keep up?

I didn’t say playing in the SEC wasn’t a positive. I basically said it is stupid to look at that as a reason to rank somebody higher, especially at QB.

 

[skinsdad62]

outstanding contribution

I think we need another thread about draft grades

I think you could be heading for a vacation

 

[Skins2021]

I think you could be heading for a vacation

Because I share an opinion that many many people around the league also share? That Haskins sucks and early results don't look positive?

That is what I was banned for after all

 

[Skins2021]

I think you need to reread his release stats.

I agree those things are better than arm strength. That is why I said he can still be very successful. Can you not keep up?

I didn’t say playing in the SEC wasn’t a positive. I basically said it is stupid to look at that as a reason to rank somebody higher, especially at QB.

This is directly from NFL.com

Weaknesses

• Polar opposite seasons in 2018 and 2019
• A level of scheme fit is necessary
• Below-average arm strength and average release quickness

But we know... you know everything

How tall are you if you don't mind me asking?

If all things are equal with a QB prospect and 1 plays in the SEC and the other plays in the Big10 the SEC guy gets the nod. It would just be one more +

How can you not comprehend this?

 

[skinsdad62]

Because I share an opinion that many many people around the league also share? That Haskins sucks and early results don't look positive?

That is what I was banned for after all

Nope you weren’t banned for that . You can have all the opinions you want .
Now if you think you were treated unfairly you can always post somewhere else where your supposed opinion can be heard and the mean old dictator mod wont bother you

. I mean you are claiming victim hood here aren’t you ? Yet you rushed back to be unfairly targeted again ? Doesn’t make sense at all now does it ? Unless of course your motives aren’t as pure as the driven snow .

There are many other forums on SportsHoopla you can go post on yet you choose the 5th rate guys here to hang your hat on? Those were your words right ?

Since you came back i have left your posts alone and are giving you a fair chance to play nicely but if you wish to do more of the same stuff that got you sent packing I can assure you that can and will be taken care of .

I say let it go but the choice is yours

 

[Skins2021]

Nope you weren’t banned for that . You can have all the opinions you want .
Now if you think you were treated unfairly you can always post somewhere else where your supposed opinion can be heard and the mean old dictator mod wont bother you

. I mean you are claiming victim hood here aren’t you ? Yet you rushed back to be unfairly targeted again ? Doesn’t make sense at all now does it ? Unless of course your motives aren’t as pure as the driven snow .

There are many other forums on SportsHoopla you can go post on yet you choose the 5th rate guys here to hang your hat on? Those were your words right ?

Since you came back i have left your posts alone and are giving you a fair chance to play nicely but if you wish to do more of the same stuff that got you sent packing I can assure you that can and will be taken care of .

I say let it go but the choice is yours

this reads about as clearly as a ted Kaczynski manifesto.

 

[Skins2021]

my postion hasnt changed. my ban was uplifted a long time ago I just chose to post after the draft bc I think its actually a great thing that the skins may be in position to get Lawrence or Fields in 2021 hence my handle

but like i said my positions remain the same
1) haskins wont work out
2) its unneccessary for a mod on a message board with this much traffic and a mod that behaves like you
3) Lawrence could truly turn this organization around
4) Ron Rivera was an outstanding hire​

 

[skinsdad62]

this reads about as clearly as a ted Kaczynski manifesto.

well perhaps you better decipher it

 

[chillerdab]

For the record, number 2 doesnt make sense.
WHAT is unnecessary for a mod on a message board with this much traffic?

your number two is, well.......shit.

 

[Skins2021]

For the record, number 2 doesnt make sense.
WHAT is unnecessary for a mod on a message board with this much traffic?

your number two is, well.......shit.

this little

 

[chillerdab]

Should anybody be surprised that your two word fix - “this little” - doesnt make your moronic points any clearer, pony boy?

No, they shouldn’t.

I think you’re lost, dumbdumb: the ealges board is elsewhere.