Eagles face tough decisions this offseason

[Iggloo]

Now there are reports Groh and Walch are axed today. Hmm...

Eagles fire OC Mike Groh, WR coach Carson Walch

 

[Guy Incognito]

Sources: Eagles to part ways with OC, WR coach

Edit: shit, ninja'd.

 

[Iggloo]

 

[Orlando Eagles]

I’ll say this....Howie is saying the right things right now. That’s a start. We don’t know just who he has in the personnel dept that could have some talent. It’s just words right now, but I’m hopeful he follows it and leans in good people.

Doug I’m kind of giving a pass on for now. I don’t like Groh as an OC. I think he might be a fine positional coach but not OC. He certainly is being given time to grow into the role, so we will see. I don’t like Walch for anything, still. However, I’ll chalk it up to other issues for now.

See how I was already talking myself into this.....now I don't have to. Nice!

 

[ill]

See how I was already talking myself into this.....now I don't have to. Nice!

I would have been fine keeping them, I will be fine with them getting someone new.

I don't know if the offensive struggles can be thrown on them with all the issues the offense had in 2019, but whatever. They did their best with what they had. Hope they can get new gigs somewhere.

 

[Guy Incognito]

I would have been fine keeping them, I will be fine with them getting someone new.

I don't know if the offensive struggles can be thrown on them with all the issues the offense had in 2019, but whatever. They did their best with what they had. Hope they can get new gigs somewhere.

JJAW and Hollins having issues with lining up right and running the right routes should have gotten Walch the boot.

The offense had at least two plays in the game on Sunday where the team was not sure which play call they were going with. The one pitch play to Sanders that he thought was going to be a handoff is one, and I thought I saw somewhere that the last offensive play they ran failed because some guys were running Play A routes, and some guys were running Play B.

If the film reviews show a lot of that, might have made Pedersen's decision to pull the trigger on canning Groh easier.

 

[Orlando Eagles]

JJAW and Hollins having issues with lining up right and running the right routes should have gotten Walch the boot.

The offense had at least two plays in the game on Sunday where the team was not sure which play call they were going with. The one pitch play to Sanders that he thought was going to be a handoff is one, and I thought I saw somewhere that the last offensive play they ran failed because some guys were running Play A routes, and some guys were running Play B.

If the film reviews show a lot of that, might have made Pedersen's decision to pull the trigger on canning Groh easier.

Yep. And it would be one thing to say the wheel go loose within the first few series of McCown coming in. But the pitch fumble was early with Carson in there, and the last play was the last play.

I don't think it needed to even be film reviews. Way I hear it Doug couldnt meet with Lurie until after the press conference where he gave the vote of confidence....and Lurie has had it set for them to be gone since the start of December. Good job, Mr. Lurie. Now, follow that up by ensuring they are going to do an in depth search and not just promote within.

I think one of the misses is that Groh could never do some of the things that Reich could do (like building the gameplan). We need to find someone, somewhere, that can do what Reich could do.

 

[mcnabb7542]

Here’s an interesting read on if JS moves on. I forgot about the tension in 2017 that got smothered with the SB. Could be a good time for him to move on on that alone.

7 defensive coordinator options for the Eagles if Jim Schwartz isn’t back in 2020

Out of the list here I would like George Edwards most of all. He did some really good things with Zimmer in Minny and has to be hungry to prove he can fully take the reins.

Edwards would be a huge hire if Jimmy leaves, also Kris Richards could be a good choice as well. He’s from the Carroll coaching tree and could bring a nasty D to the field if they give him the players

 

[mcnabb7542]

Now there are reports Groh and Walch are axed today. Hmm...

Eagles fire OC Mike Groh, WR coach Carson Walch

I knew Douggie was lying through his teeth yesterday during the presser!

 

[Guy Incognito]

I knew Douggie was lying through his teeth yesterday during the presser!

As @Orlando Eagles stated, the buzz on the Twitterbox is that Lurie wanted them both fired last month, but didn't want to upset the apple cart down the stretch.

Pedersen may have been honest in wanting to bring them back, but he don't sign the checks.

 

[Iggloo]

I knew Douggie was lying through his teeth yesterday during the presser!

My guess: Dougie didn't make this call, Lurie did.

 

[mall3013]

Thoughts on who may get the OC and WR coaching gigs? Love Deuce, but I kind of want to explore outside the organization. Just my opinion.

 

[mcnabb7542]

As @Orlando Eagles stated, the buzz on the Twitterbox is that Lurie wanted them both fired last month, but didn't want to upset the apple cart down the stretch.

Pedersen may have been honest in wanting to bring them back, but he don't sign the checks.

Lurie must be spending time on message boards get fans imput

 

[Iggloo]

 

[eaglesnut]

Jim Caldwell please NOW!

For the love of God, he's a QBs dream!

Do it!

 

[mall3013]

Jim Caldwell please NOW!

For the love of God, he's a QBs dream!

Do it!

Id be ok with Caldwell. My first choice would be Jay Gruden.

 

[eaglesnut]

Id be ok with Caldwell. My first choice would be Jay Gruden.

I like Gruden too but Caldwell is tops and probably no risk of leaving for a HC gig at age 65.

 

[mall3013]

I like Gruden too but Caldwell is tops and probably no risk of leaving for a HC gig at age 65.

Good point and I never really thought about that. Jay may joining his brother in Vegas anyway.

 

[Iggloo]

Caldwell might be a good one, a wise older coach to help Wentz and maybe temper some of Doug's wilder instincts.

 

[Orlando Eagles]

As @Orlando Eagles stated, the buzz on the Twitterbox is that Lurie wanted them both fired last month, but didn't want to upset the apple cart down the stretch.

Pedersen may have been honest in wanting to bring them back, but he don't sign the checks.

Yep. Word is that Doug didn’t meet Lurie until after the presser.

What Doug’s guilty of here isn’t lying, it’s sucking at walking an ambiguous line. If you don’t believe me watch his presser again.

And FWIW.....some of Howies comments make be believe JJAW was not his pick.