Oregon or Utah...don't fuck up.

[michaeljordan_fan]

So was Oregon-FSU!

One of the greatest football gifs I've ever seen:

 

[Deep Creek]

Ohio State-Bama and UGA-Oklahoma are pretty much it

Yep. And last year's final wasn't very competitive either.

 

[Deep Creek]

Dunno what you're talking about, OSU-Oregon was the shit.

OSU-Oregon was a final. He was listing the only two CFP semifinal games that were very competitive.

 

[Across The Field]

OSU-Oregon was a final. He was listing the only two CFP semifinal games that were very competitive.

I know, I was joking. I know you're old, but you're not that old to pick up on sarcasm. Then again, I could've used green font. You know what, my bad.

 

[Olyduck]

Move to San Francisco or Portland.


They love their homeless.

Please I have been everywhere from New York, Florida, Minnesota, St Louis, Vegas, Nebraska, up and down the west coast and over to Hawaii. Homeless are everywhere

 

[Olyduck]

Thanks for making my point for me....

maybe if the other conferences played a tougher schedule while the Pac 12 beats eachother up you might see more parity

 

[ralphiewvu]

I would agree this year, but a pretty credible case can be made that the 4th seed has been better than the 3rd most years. Two champions (14 tOSU and 17 Bama) were 4-seeds, while 3-seeds have a total of 1 CFP game win (17 UGA over OU). I would argue that 15 OU was a tougher semi than MSU, 16 tOSU and Washington were about the same, and 18 OU was certainly more dangerous than ND (though ND had a much better defense).

I’m just looking at the potential 4th seed this year though. As long as they don’t screw themselves you are looking at Oregon/Utah or Oklahoma. Those teams really won’t put the fear of God in any of the top 3 teams currently. Now if they do screw the pooch you are looking at an Alabama team that could be healthy. Yeah, then I’d agree with you this year.

 

[ralphiewvu]

Not gonna lie, Clemson scares me more than any other team in the nation. If we can beat Penn State, michigan, and win the CCG all impressively like we've been winning, I think we end up #1. Let LSU deal with Clemson.

I think you will handle all 3, but I think your main concern really should be how these other 3 finish after ya beat them for the seeding. Obviously UM and PSU should only have the loss to you left. It would more more than beneficial for them to finish 9-3 and 11-1 (which I think they will) But also Minnesota, if they can somehow get to 12-0 when they face you that’ll be huge. Personally I see them going 10-2 and you facing Wisconsin in the B1G champ game. Which won’t help you as much as an undefeated Minnesota. Just my opinion though.

 

[Across The Field]

I think you will handle all 3, but I think your main concern really should be how these other 3 finish after ya beat them for the seeding. Obviously UM and PSU should only have the loss to you left. It would more more than beneficial for them to finish 9-3 and 11-1 (which I think they will) But also Minnesota, if they can somehow get to 12-0 when they face you that’ll be huge. Personally I see them going 10-2 and you facing Wisconsin in the B1G champ game. Which won’t help you as much as an undefeated Minnesota. Just my opinion though.

You might not be wrong, hard to say with any confidence that Minnesota is going to run a gauntlet of Penn State, Iowa, and Wisconsin unbeaten, but they could also be the real deal. My hope is we take care of business and get to Indy and Minnesota is there sitting at 11-1. If that's the case, I see things finishing up as:

Minnesota 11-2 - losing to Wisconsin and then OSU
Penn State 10-2 - Minnesota and OSU
michigan 9-3 - Wisconsin, Penn State, and OSU
Wisconsin 10-2 - Illinois and OSU

Those 4 along are impressive to have on the resume. Indiana is also very likely going to go 8-4. The kicker is the fact that, while we had three G5 teams on our OOC, all three of them are likely going to play for their respective conference titles, meaning they all could end up with 9 or more wins. All in all, OSU could be looking at a 13 game schedule with 8 teams going 8-4 or better.

 

[ralphiewvu]

You might not be wrong, hard to say with any confidence that Minnesota is going to run a gauntlet of Penn State, Iowa, and Wisconsin unbeaten, but they could also be the real deal. My hope is we take care of business and get to Indy and Minnesota is there sitting at 11-1. If that's the case, I see things finishing up as:

Minnesota 11-2 - losing to Wisconsin and then OSU
Penn State 10-2 - Minnesota and OSU
michigan 9-3 - Wisconsin, Penn State, and OSU
Wisconsin 10-2 - Illinois and OSU

Those 4 along are impressive to have on the resume. Indiana is also very likely going to go 8-4. The kicker is the fact that, while we had three G5 teams on our OOC, all three of them are likely going to play for their respective conference titles, meaning they all could end up with 9 or more wins. All in all, OSU could be looking at a 13 game schedule with 8 teams going 8-4 or better.

I meant PSU at 10-2, my bad. Yeah that actually would be better Minny losing to wisky which if they beat Iowa and 1 win NW it won’t matter. Good catch. You know how the rankings go though, it’s what you’ve done for me lately. An if LSU knocks off Georgia big, I’m not sure the committee will look at the whole schedule. Not a dig just my belief. Fair or not.

 

[OregonDucks]

Fairly certain when I flush my toilet it goes to the Mississippi river and floods out into the Gulf.

 

[Across The Field]

I meant PSU at 10-2, my bad. Yeah that actually would be better Minny losing to wisky which if they beat Iowa and 1 win NW it won’t matter. Good catch. You know how the rankings go though, it’s what you’ve done for me lately. An if LSU knocks off Georgia big, I’m not sure the committee will look at the whole schedule. Not a dig just my belief. Fair or not.

I don't see LSU knocking them off big. LSU, for as good as their resume is, hasn't been dominant against anyone of note to this point. Texas, Auburn, and Bama were all close wins, and Florida was completely back-and-forth all game until the 4th. Bama is obviously a good team, and I think Auburn can be when they're playing with their heads not up their ass, but IMO Florida and Texas really aren't that great and both of them played right with LSU. Georgia has the horses to keep it close with LSU's defensive issues.

 

[Deep Creek]

I’m just looking at the potential 4th seed this year though. As long as they don’t screw themselves you are looking at Oregon/Utah or Oklahoma. Those teams really won’t put the fear of God in any of the top 3 teams currently. Now if they do screw the pooch you are looking at an Alabama team that could be healthy. Yeah, then I’d agree with you this year.

I'm not so sure. Maybe not Ohio State or Clem, but LSU ain't THAT far in front of two of 'em...at least using common opponents.

While better than transitive, common opponents can still be flawed. But, LSU provides some indication. Auburn is common to LSU (23-20) and Oregon (21-27). Texas is common to LSU (45-38) and Oklahoma (34-27). While there are factors, those are weren't routs at all.

Got nuttin' for Utah.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

Fairly certain when I flush my toilet it goes to the Mississippi river and floods out into the Gulf.

You should probably research the Continental Divide.

 

[Across The Field]

I'm not so sure. Maybe not Ohio State or Clem, but LSU ain't THAT far in front of two of 'em...at least using common opponents.

While better than transitive, common opponents can still be flawed. But, LSU provides some indication. Auburn is common to LSU (23-20) and Oregon (21-27). Texas is common to LSU (45-38) and Oklahoma (34-27). While there are factors, those are weren't routs at all.

Got nuttin' for Utah.

I've gotta be honest, I'm starting to think OSU and Clemson are better than LSU this year. Just looking at the games played and how they've turned out. OSU has demolished everyone, and while the UNC game looks bad, Clemson looks like they're maybe starting to round into typical late season Clemson. The biggest problem for LSU is their defense is not set up at all to stop an elite offensive team. Oklahoma-LSU would be interesting in that you're looking at two highly explosive offenses and two suspect defenses. OSU and Clemson, when playing at their best, are the two most complete teams in the nation.

 

[Deep Creek]

I'm not so sure. Maybe not Ohio State or Clem, but LSU ain't THAT far in front of two of 'em...at least using common opponents.

While better than transitive, common opponents can still be flawed. But, LSU provides some indication. Auburn is common to LSU (23-20) and Oregon (21-27). Texas is common to LSU (45-38) and Oklahoma (34-27). While there are factors, those are weren't routs at all.

Got nuttin' for Utah.

Damn my grammaratization/preafrooding skills suck sometimes. "are weren't"? WTH?

 

[ralphiewvu]

I don't see LSU knocking them off big. LSU, for as good as their resume is, hasn't been dominant against anyone of note to this point. Texas, Auburn, and Bama were all close wins, and Florida was completely back-and-forth all game until the 4th. Bama is obviously a good team, and I think Auburn can be when they're playing with their heads not up their ass, but IMO Florida and Texas really aren't that great and both of them played right with LSU. Georgia has the horses to keep it close with LSU's defensive issues.

I understand what you are saying but still that resume is great. I still think OSU is better but their resume compared LSUs won’t be. Add in they are an SEC team and I think it will be LSU at #1.

 

[Across The Field]

I understand what you are saying but still that resume is great. I still think OSU is better but their resume compared LSUs won’t be. Add in they are an SEC team and I think it will be LSU at #1.

I don't see how being in the SEC is a benefit. The B1G has more top 25 teams in the CFP right now. Plus it's all about timing. LSU finishes the year with two unranked teams that they should beat easily and then a top 5 UGA team (assuming they win out). OSU finishes the season with three straight top 15 teams. Recency bias definitely can make an impact, especially if OSU wins their games impressively while LSU keeps winning close.

 

[ralphiewvu]

I'm not so sure. Maybe not Ohio State or Clem, but LSU ain't THAT far in front of two of 'em...at least using common opponents.

While better than transitive, common opponents can still be flawed. But, LSU provides some indication. Auburn is common to LSU (23-20) and Oregon (21-27). Texas is common to LSU (45-38) and Oklahoma (34-27). While there are factors, those are weren't routs at all.

Got nuttin' for Utah.

They still played all of those teams and beat them. An to be fair, Auburn they were winning by double digits the whole game (they didn’t cover) an same with Texas. They won’t at Texas too and gumpville. I get what you mean as auburn should have never beat Oregon and LSU didn’t destroy them. But LSU probably has the best resume in the country. I can’t see them getting jumped unless they lose.

 

[ralphiewvu]

I don't see how being in the SEC is a benefit. The B1G has more top 25 teams in the CFP right now. Plus it's all about timing. LSU finishes the year with two unranked teams that they should beat easily and then a top 5 UGA team (assuming they win out). OSU finishes the season with three straight top 15 teams. Recency bias definitely can make an impact, especially if OSU wins their games impressively while LSU keeps winning close.

It shouldn’t be but they will always have the benefit of the doubt.
An at least one of those teams won’t be top 15 (Michigan) maybe even two or all 3 after they play OSU. An if LSU does blow Georgia out, which certainly isn’t out of the question as Georgia’s offense has struggled then it might not matter what OSU does to their B1G west opponent.