Series Thread: Rangers play lowly Mariners in Seattle 7/22-7/24

[Kelleyman]

Time to trade?

Perhaps Red Sox who are in pennant race......

Crawler-----would you take Mitch back?

 

[darrylgann]

Put this guy into the rotation!

 

[WastinSomeTime]

Put this guy into the rotation!

And leave him there.

 

[Duane1952]

Another TJ reject.... think via Mets. We do like them NL pitchers

Payano signed as an international free agent in 2012. Montero is the TJ from the Mets.

 

[DT LUNA]

Nine o'clock A.M. comes early. Have a good night and a better tomorrow.

 

[PhantomWarrior]

Wish him well, hope he progresses.

 

[PhantomWarrior]

Hey a W!

 

[Duane1952]

Payano and Montero did well.

 

[Nightcrawler]

Payano and Montero did well.

Best pitched ranger game in over a week for sure.

 

[darrylgann]

According to TR Sulliavn:
Joey Gallo will have an MRI on his sore right wrist: Manager Chris Woodward: He is really sore and said when he tries to hit inside the ball it has been bothering him. I know it bothered him in Houston."

This is a bit concerning and could become chronic

 

[WastinSomeTime]

According to TR Sulliavn:
Joey Gallo will have an MRI on his sore right wrist: Manager Chris Woodward: He is really sore and said when he tries to hit inside the ball it has been bothering him. I know it bothered him in Houston."

This is a bit concerning and could become chronic

Sorry to hear that. I went to bed before the game was over but I noticed in probably his next to last AB that he was not seeing the ball well as he struck out on some really bad pitches and normally he has a very good eye at the plate. So something is also going on mentally with him. But the mental part he will get fixed so just hope the physical issue is also taken care of.

 

[Uncle Siggy]

You are ridiculous. You can't stand it when he does something good.

He could be hitting .400 and would still suck.

 

[saddles]

 

[saddles]

https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/mlb/texas-rangers/article233048377.html

The Astros remain loaded, in the big leagues and in the minors. Meanwhile, while there has been improvement in both areas for the Rangers, this season hasn’t made much of a dent in the overall landscape.

That is the No. 1 reason why the Rangers could trade All-Star starter Mike Minor, who might be making his final start for the Rangers on Wednesday afternoon against the Seattle Mariners.

Of course, the Rangers would seek a package coming back that includes some difference-makers.

No Eddie Butler, in other words.

He was the big-league piece last season in the Cole Hamels trade with the Chicago Cubs. Butler is now pitching in Japan, and another part of the trade, Rollie Lacy, was dealt away in the Jurickson Profar trade.

The third and only remaining player from the Hamels deal is 17-year-old outfielder Alexander Ovalles, currently hitting .377 in the Arizona League.

To part with Minor, the Rangers would want young controllable players already in the majors and/or top prospects knocking on the door.

Reports from around MLB suggest that the trade market has been slow to develop, outside of a few deals. Selling teams, reports suggest, are asking for the moon.

That could lead to last-minute deals next week, as buyers wait to see if the sellers will back off their demands.

The Rangers should not. As one official said, if Minor is their Opening Day starter next season, great, though the team would seemingly be no better than the 2019 version.

But with Minor scheduled to start again Tuesday, teams might want to strike sooner to make sure they get every start they can out of him. That could work to benefit the Rangers.

So could this: Minor is not just some rental. He comes with another year of control at a club-friendly $9.5 million. That what gives the Rangers a better chance at a big deal for Minor, or at least bigger than Hamels last season and Yu Darvish in 2017.

Both of them were headed to free agency. Minor is not.

So far, the teams reported to have interest in Minor are the Philadelphia Phillies, Milwaukee Brewers, Atlanta Braves and New York Yankees. Minor can block a trade to the Yankees, reportedly.

Would he exercise that power? He genuinely likes living in Arlington and playing for the Rangers, despite some comments he made last week about their rush to trade him.

He does not like change, especially when he hasn’t had time to contemplate it.

Then again, he has been on the trading block since the off-season and has had a lot of time to consider what it might be like to be dealt.

Say Minor is traded. Then what?

The Rangers would still have work to do to catch the Astros (and New York Yankees, Los Angeles Dodgers and, probably, the Boston Red Sox). Those clubs are loaded at most positions, and the Astros, Yankees and Dodgers have talent-rich farm systems.

Not the Rangers, whose best prospects are at Double A or lower. The big-league club has questions at three of the four infield positions, behind the plate, in the outfield corners and throughout the pitching staff with the exception of Minor and Lance Lynn.

It might just be Lynn after the trade deadline.

Maybe the Rangers should consider trading Lynn, too.

 

[scotsman1948]

https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/mlb/texas-rangers/article233048377.html

The Astros remain loaded, in the big leagues and in the minors. Meanwhile, while there has been improvement in both areas for the Rangers, this season hasn’t made much of a dent in the overall landscape.

That is the No. 1 reason why the Rangers could trade All-Star starter Mike Minor, who might be making his final start for the Rangers on Wednesday afternoon against the Seattle Mariners.

Of course, the Rangers would seek a package coming back that includes some difference-makers.

No Eddie Butler, in other words.

He was the big-league piece last season in the Cole Hamels trade with the Chicago Cubs. Butler is now pitching in Japan, and another part of the trade, Rollie Lacy, was dealt away in the Jurickson Profar trade.

The third and only remaining player from the Hamels deal is 17-year-old outfielder Alexander Ovalles, currently hitting .377 in the Arizona League.

To part with Minor, the Rangers would want young controllable players already in the majors and/or top prospects knocking on the door.

Reports from around MLB suggest that the trade market has been slow to develop, outside of a few deals. Selling teams, reports suggest, are asking for the moon.

That could lead to last-minute deals next week, as buyers wait to see if the sellers will back off their demands.

The Rangers should not. As one official said, if Minor is their Opening Day starter next season, great, though the team would seemingly be no better than the 2019 version.

But with Minor scheduled to start again Tuesday, teams might want to strike sooner to make sure they get every start they can out of him. That could work to benefit the Rangers.

So could this: Minor is not just some rental. He comes with another year of control at a club-friendly $9.5 million. That what gives the Rangers a better chance at a big deal for Minor, or at least bigger than Hamels last season and Yu Darvish in 2017.

Both of them were headed to free agency. Minor is not.

So far, the teams reported to have interest in Minor are the Philadelphia Phillies, Milwaukee Brewers, Atlanta Braves and New York Yankees. Minor can block a trade to the Yankees, reportedly.

Would he exercise that power? He genuinely likes living in Arlington and playing for the Rangers, despite some comments he made last week about their rush to trade him.

He does not like change, especially when he hasn’t had time to contemplate it.

Then again, he has been on the trading block since the off-season and has had a lot of time to consider what it might be like to be dealt.

Say Minor is traded. Then what?

The Rangers would still have work to do to catch the Astros (and New York Yankees, Los Angeles Dodgers and, probably, the Boston Red Sox). Those clubs are loaded at most positions, and the Astros, Yankees and Dodgers have talent-rich farm systems.

Not the Rangers, whose best prospects are at Double A or lower. The big-league club has questions at three of the four infield positions, behind the plate, in the outfield corners and throughout the pitching staff with the exception of Minor and Lance Lynn.

It might just be Lynn after the trade deadline.

Maybe the Rangers should consider trading Lynn, too.

To even talk about competing with the Astros right now is a non-subject. Even 2, 3 or 4 years from now we will have trouble competing with them. So trading Minor, Lynn and any other tradable asset now and going into full rebuild mode now and using the rest of the season to find starters for next season now

 

[WastinSomeTime]

To even talk about competing with the Astros right now is a non-subject. Even 2, 3 or 4 years from now we will have trouble competing with them. So trading Minor, Lynn and any other tradable asset now and going into full rebuild mode now and using the rest of the season to find starters for next season now

I agree with not worrying catching anyone. I am up in the air about getting rid of pitching but I guess that would depend on what we can get in return. Those teams listed as possible trade partners for the most part and including the Twins not on that list have problems with pitching. Their offense has been the star of the show for the most part. Based on that we COULD be, not WILL be, in the hunt with a few pieces added in a couple of years.

 

[saddles]

 

[Duane1952]

Early game today.

 

[scotsman1948]

I agree with not worrying catching anyone. I am up in the air about getting rid of pitching but I guess that would depend on what we can get in return. Those teams listed as possible trade partners for the most part and including the Twins not on that list have problems with pitching. Their offense has been the star of the show for the most part. Based on that we COULD be, not WILL be, in the hunt with a few pieces added in a couple of years.

personally I would prefer to see what we have in pitching and not insist on trooping out Minor and Lynn when there's no point. trade them. let's let the kids like Burke, Benjamin, Hernandez, Palumbo, Payano, Herrera, Maness, Phillips, Jurado and Sampson in some form close the season.

 

[WastinSomeTime]

personally I would prefer to see what we have in pitching and not insist on trooping out Minor and Lynn when there's no point. trade them. let's let the kids like Burke, Benjamin, Hernandez, Palumbo, Payano, Herrera, Maness, Phillips, Jurado and Sampson in some form close the season.

I can see your point. If there was a guarantee of a good return then I am really on board.