2019 Offseason Thread

[WiggyRuss]

Also, really?
Heat dumped Whiteside to get asset to dump to get Butler and keep Dragic, who will prob be used to get Westbrook.

what "asset" did they trade Whiteside for? Do you mean the guy they had to attach a first round pick to get rid off that had an expiring contract? LOL for fucksake man open your eyes!

 

[WiggyRuss]

Don't waste your time. He probably thought acquiring james and bosh in 2010 were bad moves also.

oh yah because THATs the same thing- trading Whiteside for a couple crappy players is the same as signing Bosh and LeBron . LOL

I mean think of the lengths you two are going to do defend such as shit bag of a contract and a player.....

a guy that progressively had his playing time cut because the coach knew the simple fact that you guys know just as wlel as me- and Spo---- that the guy is a fucking loser.

Its why he was dealt for 2 guys- one who is useless and will likely barely, if at all see the court, and the other guy that had to have a first round pick attached to him to move his expiring contract.

the pick you traded for Whiteside will be still due 3 years after he has played his last shitty basketball for your team. That is his lasting legacy.

 

[WiggyRuss]

one of the funniest things i just read is that Whiteside purposefully waited until AFTER the draft to pick up his player option because he knew it would be harder to trade him---- and so he couldnt get traded on draft night because he knew that was the likeliest night he was to get traded--- so he waited as long as he could but they still found a way to ship his ass out. lol

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

what "asset" did they trade Whiteside for? Do you mean the guy they had to attach a first round pick to get rid off that had an expiring contract? LOL for fucksake man open your eyes!

You answered your own question.

10 days ago you basically said it was impossible to get Butler.

Can one even imagine your posts if on June 28, we said we could get Butler/Westbrook.

 

[WiggyRuss]

You answered your own question.

10 days ago you basically said it was impossible to get Butler.

Can one even imagine your posts if on June 28, we said we could get Butler/Westbrook.

yah, in order to get a guy that you could have signed in free agency if Riley didnt shit the bed the last few years you had to (i) give up a first round pick, (ii) eat Meyers Leonards contract for 11M this year while he will barely if at all play, and (iii) trade Richardson ona 3 year 30 million dollar contract that is a STEAL in a leauge where Danny Green gets 2 years 30 million--- while making SURE you dont have any cap room this summer or next OR next

I mean, as i said the other day---- you gave up significant assets to trade for a guy you could have just signed if Riley wasnt a moron with his cap space the last couple years! lol....do you not realize how hilarious that is?

that guys like Whiteside, Onlyk, JJohnosn, TJohnson basically won you exactly nothing and caused you to give up assets for a guy you couldve signed for nothing bnut money? And now you have to give him the humongous contract that runs into his mid thirties AND give up assets for him? That is a fucking terrible way to run your team.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

oh yah because THATs the same thing- trading Whiteside for a couple crappy players is the same as signing Bosh and LeBron . LOL

I mean think of the lengths you two are going to do defend such as shit bag of a contract and a player.....

a guy that progressively had his playing time cut because the coach knew the simple fact that you guys know just as wlel as me- and Spo---- that the guy is a fucking loser.

Its why he was dealt for 2 guys- one who is useless and will likely barely, if at all see the court, and the other guy that had to have a first round pick attached to him to move his expiring contract.

the pick you traded for Whiteside will be still due 3 years after he has played his last shitty basketball for your team. That is his lasting legacy.

Nah.
Portland is trying to win and got themselves a quality starter and or backup depending on how it goes.

Bam is hopefully the Heats C for quite some time.

 

[bksballer89]

A lottery protected pick until 2026 and Richardson is significant assets?

 

[WiggyRuss]

basically Whiteside - who's 27M dollar contract is BEYOND toxic, had to be traded for 2 smaller shitty contracts since no one would/could take 27M dollars of a giant poop for a first rounder. Trading one piece of smaller poop (harkless) was a lot easier than trading a gigantic turd like Whiteside----no one takes Whiteside with one first rounder attached to him---- but at least they would take one small poop (Harkless) with a 1st rounder attached to him--- so what if they had to take on Meyers Leonard too who is easily the most worthless player in the deal.

 

[WiggyRuss]

A lottery protected pick until 2026 and Richardson is significant assets?

abso fucking lutely.

the Bucks used their 30th pick to get off of Snell's contract. Richardson is PRECIELY the type of 3 and D guy every team needs, and at 3 years 30M he was a steal in todays market. AND you ahd to take on Meyers Leonard who will be a lumbering paperweight.

all because Riley was an idiot and signed a bunch of mediocre guys to awful contracts.

I mean, even if you only wanted ot trade a first rounder and Richardson for another player- thats not that different than what the Sixers gave up Butler or Harris, ---- the Bucks gave up LESS than a first rounder to get Mirotic, -- Richardson, a first rounder, and taking on an 11 million dollar shitty contract is a combination for trading for a big time piece to bring into next to Butler--- it could EASILY be what you trade for RW plus a couple more expirings except for the fact that you ahd to give it up for Butler since you had no cap space since Riley went on a ridiculously stupid spending spree that got you precisely NO WHERE.

 

[WiggyRuss]

i mean, think of what you just basically said @bksballer89 .....we traded Ricahrdson and a first for Butler! thats awesome

-but, how "significant" of assets are Richardson and a first? Not that significant....lol

I mean, it cant be BOTH. lol....

an offer of Richardson, a first rounder, and a couple expiring contracts is exactly the basis for an RW trade without having to give up anything else of significant, but instead you spent that on Butler because Riley thought it would be a good idea to give tyler johnson and jjohnson and olnyk and whiteside and waiters a ton of money to miss the playoffs 2 out of 3 years and get curb stomped in the first round the other year.

this is not rocket science.

 

[WiggyRuss]

A lottery protected pick until 2026 and Richardson is significant assets?

i mean it brought you "the Great Jimmy Butler" right?

 

[WiggyRuss]

baseball really needs to start up

this is literally the worst sports day of the year.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Once again according to Wiggy, EVERY MOVE the heat make is bad lol

I mean Riley USED to be good, and is a deserving hall of famer, but i mean, the record and the contracts speak for themselves- post Lebron he has done a positively pitiful job. He wont take the time to do it the right way since hes outta the door soon enough.

I mean can you honestly say you think the Heat have been well managed the last 3 years? I dont know how you could possibly say such a thing.

 

[Mecca]

I'm sure it did.

He's lost in his feels. He's had 2 very bad off-seasons.

1 of the teams he hates most in he world took one of his nuts and Lebron from him and is now considered a contender for next year.

And the other team he hates most in the world is likely going to make the playoffs next year by getting one of the players he hates the most and possibly pairing him with one of the players he loves the most.

Meanwhile, his Cavs are already planning their next lottery party.

We may be in for another epic meltdown.

Like I hate y'all too, in theory.

But, that doesn't have to completely override my objectivity.

Mcgee exceeded expectations last year.

These are facts.

I was wrong about the guy.

Period.

 

[Mecca]

here is an opinion- i bet you Garland makes him look like a fool and becomes a much muhc better pro.

I think Garland will be so good that you trade Sexton.

 

[Mecca]

Which is exactly why the Lakers wont win shit

Hollis-Jefferson for the minimum was a steal.

Like Johnson, his offense never developed.

But, he can defend.

 

[Mecca]

ehhh...when you get fired from the Orlando Magic and the Magic get better its typically not a great sign.

I actually do like Vogel to some extent, but i have serious doubts if he is made out to be a coach in this type of market with this type of scrutiny. He seems like a small market/defensive/rah rah type of guy that is more x's and o's.

He just doesnt seem like a guy who is going to able to manage these type of personalities and this type of pressure coaching for hte Los Angeles Lakers. Its why I thought Lue would have been the right hire-- he would have broguht Vogel in to be his assistant and run the D while he would have managed the personalities, the pressure, the media, management and their idiocy, etc.....Lue would have done a good job juggling a lot of those variables. I think that the pressure and the media and the personalities and the whims of management are just things that Vogel is not well prepared for. ESPECIALLY if they get off to a slow start.

I'm actually going to have to agree with you on Vogel.

Kidd will be first chair by Season's end.

With Lonzo gone, why else would J Kidd be there?

The Lakers knew they would have to part with him in any superstar trade.

So, why hire Kidd?

 

[Mecca]

you obviously

Uhhhh, I'm just responding.

I'm not arguing nor trying to convince you.

 

[WiggyRuss]

I think Garland will be so good that you trade Sexton.

that would be fine with me as long as they get value

right now and for the next 2 years its all about finding out who can play and who cant and acquiring more assets.....

Sexton sure looked like he could play though- especially after he got his legs under him.

and ESPECIALLY considering the circumstances, a fired coach, tons of turnover, tons of injuries, etc....

it doesnt surprised me he scored the points he did considering hte opportunities,

it DOES suprise me that he shot 40% from 3, and 43% from the field....especially after a slow start and went for like 42% from 3, 45% from the field and 20+ points a game the last 3 months.

 

[Mecca]

2 years, 8 million

the market doesnt lie

Cauley-Stein - Minimum

Kanter - 2/10

Kaminski 2/10

Boban 2/7


...and yes...

I did post this right after I said I wasn't trying to sway you....lol