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Durant ijury, the cosequences for the entire league's future..

buckalis

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Yet the Dubs are willing to spend into the luxury tax.
Put it like this...
If they are nly going to reduce the amount into the lux tax to some 10~15M more than the 132M of salaries that will be the lux tax roof next season, IT WILL BE THE DUMBEST THING THEY EVER DID.

By only reducing the tax, they'll still be into the repeater tax, while if they eliminate the tax completely, they'll only need another season to stay below and then they can have a come back FOR 3 MORE SEASONS to re~enter the "forbitten zone", but with:

1. Without paying the (severe) repeaters tax
2. Having the lux tax line set at 22M more as it will be 154M by then...

So no, they won't be reducing the amount... They'll instead move below the lux tax line THIS VERY SEASON... simply because they aren't so dumb as some of the posters here that want them to be "spenders", but CONDEMN THE TEAM'S FUTURE too by their spending... They know better, they'll be doing what has to be done for the best of their team.
 

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Put it like this...
If they are nly going to reduce the amount into the lux tax to some 10~15M more than the 132M of salaries that will be the lux tax roof next season, IT WILL BE THE DUMBEST THING THEY EVER DID.

By only reducing the tax, they'll still be into the repeater tax, while if they eliminate the tax completely, they'll only need another season to stay below and then they can have a come back FOR 3 MORE SEASONS to re~enter the "forbitten zone", but with:

1. Without paying the (severe) repeaters tax
2. Having the lux tax line set at 22M more as it will be 154M by then...

So no, they won't be reducing the amount... They'll instead move below the lux tax line THIS VERY SEASON... simply because they aren't so dumb as some of the posters here that want them to be "spenders", but CONDEMN THE TEAM'S FUTURE too by their spending... They know better, they'll be doing what has to be done for the best of their team.

The next time you correctly predict something here will be the first. Good luck!
 

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As I said... I believe this is the most possible scenario too... But they'll have to dump either Livingston's or Iguodala's contract.
In any case they won't pay lux tax next season.

It won't be Iggy.

Livingston might retire.

But hell, Iggy could retire too.
 

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The next time you correctly predict something here will be the first. Good luck!
Try to have a conversation based on argument for a difference, or shut the fuck up.
 

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math was not a strong subject for you was it?

Very strong actually.

I believe the Warriors would be willing to pay the $300 million in payroll + tax.

Probably moot because KD probably signs elsewhere.

But I really hope he does re-up with the Warriors just to prove you wrong. Again.
 

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Try to have a conversation based on argument for a difference, or shut the fuck up.

Here's an argument: the Warriors have said many times they do not care how much tax they pay to keep this team together. So I'm right and you're wrong, ya deepshit.
 

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Here's an argument: the Warriors have said many times they do not care how much tax they pay to keep this team together. So I'm right and you're wrong, ya deepshit.

Yet, these guys keep saying it is impossible.

They might change course. But I will never say impossible because of what these guys have done for franchise value.

That is what Wiggy and Buck simply don't understand.
 

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Yet, these guys keep saying it is impossible.

They might change course. But I will never say impossible because of what these guys have done for franchise value.

That is what Wiggy and Buck simply don't understand.

It might only be that one more year if KD stays, not so sure they max Draymond if he stays for the 5 year deal
 

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Yep, they'd have one more year with the whole gang together.

Draymond also has the kind of physical game that won't age well

Right

His defense won't stay elite into his mid 30s
 

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It might only be that one more year if KD stays, not so sure they max Draymond if he stays for the 5 year deal

Sure.

But again,

I am not going to say impossible whe the decision makers innthe organiztaion are saying they will pay "whatever it takes".

Maybe they are bluffing assuming that KD is out.

But maybe they aren't. Maybe they are okay giving back their profits from the last few years.
 

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Here's an argument: the Warriors have said many times they do not care how much tax they pay to keep this team together. So I'm right and you're wrong, ya deepshit.

They will keep the core together AND go below the lux tax roof... deepshit! Shut the fuck up now!
 

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Yet, these guys keep saying it is impossible.

They might change course. But I will never say impossible because of what these guys have done for franchise value.

That is what Wiggy and Buck simply don't understand.
your an idiot if you even think it matters. Your simple mind cannot grasp a simple fact that the NBA CBA is designed not to allow it. Its not a matter of motivation or willingness to spend. Your are too stupid. too ignorant, or too stubborn (or maybe a combo of all 3) to grasp that though.
 

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your an idiot if you even think it matters. Your simple mind cannot grasp a simple fact that the NBA CBA is designed not to allow it. Its not a matter of motivation or willingness to spend. Your are too stupid. too ignorant, or too stubborn (or maybe a combo of all 3) to grasp that though.

I will be sure to come back to this post if KD resigns.

One would think you would learn your lesson Mr. 1 nut on Mars. But apparently, you continue to go all in on absolute comments that can 100% be proven wrong.

There is only 1 ignorant person in this exchange, and it isn't me.
 

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they will pay the lux tax....i dont think there is any way around it even if Durant leaves....but they cant keep the big 4 together once Dray is up for his extension/raise. Wont happen.

The most a team has ever spent in a single year in luxury tax is like 70-75M.

If the Warriors brought their same team back they would be spending about 160M+ in luxury tax. Its just the CBA doing what the CBA was designed to do.
They won't pay the lux tax on either of the next two seasons...
This off season they'll give Thompson the max and add cheap pieces, so that they end up just below 132M and then next off season they give Green the max and balance the rest of the roster around Curry/Thompson/Green so that they just below 144M...

Then two seasons later, they'll offer to a free agent All Star who is big body that can play SF a supermax (Paul George perhaps?) and move back into pay the lux tax but without having the repeaters ta x for another three seasons.

The worst scenario for them, is in case KD exercises his team option this off season... because then, they have to find a way to get rid of his contract and because it will cost something, there is a (small) chance that they may be forced to loose Thompson (depending on the manoeuvrability of KD's contract).

As you correctly said... that's what the CBA is designed to achieve.
 

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Here's an argument: the Warriors have said many times they do not care how much tax they pay to keep this team together. So I'm right and you're wrong, ya deepshit.


You’re drunk on Derp if you think this team stays together. Two busted ass players that won’t be the same spells the end for this core group.
 

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The dubs do have some tough decisions to make, but don't count them out just yet from regaining their dominance...even if it takes another year or 2.

Green: 'Not smart' to think Warriors' run over
They'll hit again hard, the 3rd season from now, when they'll be able to go into the lux tax without having to pay the repeaters tax for another three seasons.

Surely though. Tompson's additional to KD's very serious injury, complicates things further for the Warriors...No way they'll go into paying lux tax for the following two seasons.
 

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They'll hit again hard, the 3rd season from now, when they'll be able to go into the lux tax without having to pay the repeaters tax for another three seasons.

Surely though. Tompson's additional to KD's very serious injury, complicates things further for the Warriors...No way they'll go into paying lux tax for the following two seasons.

You place too much emphasis on the luxury tax and not enough on the salary cap.

The problem is, no matter what moves the Warriors make, they are not going below the salary cap threshold.

So, even if they did avoid the luxury tax for a year or two, the won't be able to simply reload because they will be above the cap and stuck with MLE, minimum contracts and trades as a way to improve the roster.

If what you said was true, they won't have any real trade assets aside from their big 3 to work with because they will have gotten rid of all their other meaningful salary. A string of late first round picks doesn't net a whole lot.

In other words, if the Warriors are going to continue to contend, paying needed pieces is the most realistic way to do it. They can't later replace the salary that they shed now.
 
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