2019 NFL Draft Thread

[BigFin]

We need someone that can get after the QB at #13. A right tackle is a hole-plugger. We can plug OL holes after that. We could come away with 2 good OL starters after R1.

 

[Paolo305613]

Arizona Cardinals take Kyler Murray - so that settles that. Thank you, Arizona.

DE/DL/OL for the Dolphins can now be the ultimate focus for the Fins

 

[BigFin]

Now that Oliver is with BUF and Q is with NYJ, I see a strong possibility of iOL in R1 and maybe even R2 for us.

 

[FanofPelicans]

DT C. Wilkins is the pick. He will be an impact player for the Fins.

 

[Paolo305613]

Christian Wilkins to the Fins it is. A great addition to the defense -- a great value pick for the Fins

 

[FlyerFinFan]

DT C. Wilkins is the pick. He will be an impact player for the Fins.

Agreed they must not like the QBs....or may trade back in if they slide.

 

[FanofPelicans]

Agreed they must not like the QBs....or may trade back in if they slide.

The Fins will get a top 5 QB next year. They will probably get Tua who is a very special talent or one of the other top QBs next year. The Fins could still get a QB later in this draft to develop as a backup or potential starter.

"Fitzmagic" was a good choice to lead the team this year.

 

[BigFin]

I wonder if Ferrell or Gary would've been the pick if either were available. Solid pick, though. I wonder what our 3-4 DLine would look like, Wilkins at DE with Godchaux at the NT?

 

[FlyerFinFan]

I wonder if Ferrell or Gary would've been the pick if either were available. Solid pick, though. I wonder what our 3-4 DLine would look like, Wilkins at DE with Godchaux at the NT?

I was thinking that they will play more 3-4. Otherwise would have went DE...

 

[FanofPelicans]

I wonder if Ferrell or Gary would've been the pick if either were available. Solid pick, though. I wonder what our 3-4 DLine would look like, Wilkins at DE with Godchaux at the NT?

I like Ferrell a lot. He will be a very good DE at the next level. Gary concerns me. He has a ton of potential but not the production that would be expected on the college level. The Fins don't need another Dion Jordan situation. Gary could still do well though.

Godchaux and Wilkins are around 315lbs. Both of these guys are solid DTs. Neither are as big as NTs usually are in a 3-4 defense. The Fins may still get a DE or big NT in this draft.

 

[BigFin]

Hopefully one of Risner, Ford, McCoy, or Taylor falls to us. If not, I wouldn't mind Zach Allen, then OL R3-R5.

 

[Paolo305613]

As expected, there is a lot of talk/disappointment about the Dolphins not selecting/"failing" to go after a QB in the first round.

Time and again I have said it, before and after the Tannehill move -- there was NO need to go after a QB in the first round. There was no one worthy of selecting in the first round at QB considering our other needs.

The Fins didn't "fail" to address the QB position, they simply did the right thing in prioritizing real needs. They got great value for the player they selected.

Now, in day 2 and 3 of the draft, they have a chance of finding the right guy to groom -- if they are convinced one of the remaining QBs fits that role.


Another narrative that must be killed is the whole idea that by the Dolphins not selecting a QB in the first round of this draft - they are essentially tanking to position themselves for one next season. Stop the tanking nonsense -- the team has already said that is not what they are doing -- and they are not.

Some are saying that now the team can focus on positioning themselves for a QB next draft -- far from the truth. After the draft is over, the team will move on to adding some undrafted free-agent players -- more trades and FA signings -- and then its on to preparing for THIS season. The Dolphins will do the right thing and approach this season in the way they should - at seasons end we will see where they are at in preparation for the next draft.

This may be rebuilding team but they are focused on the present -- as they should. Enough with the tanking shit already. For a fan base that complains about losing so much it certainly is a bit anticlimactic to be cheering for losses already. STOP.

Embrace the process.

 

[FlyerFinFan]

Does Harris get moved to 3-4 OLB similar to the Suggs role? They have to do something with the guy to get some value no?

 

[FlyerFinFan]

As expected, there is a lot of talk/disappointment about the Dolphins not selecting/"failing" to go after a QB in the first round.

Time and again I have said it, before and after the Tannehill move -- there was NO need to go after a QB in the first round. There was no one worthy of selecting in the first round at QB considering our other needs.

The Fins didn't "fail" to address the QB position, they simply did the right thing in prioritizing real needs. They got great value for the player they selected.

Now, in day 2 and 3 of the draft, they have a chance of finding the right guy to groom -- if they are convinced one of the remaining QBs fits that role.


Another narrative that must be killed is the whole idea that by the Dolphins not selecting a QB in the first round of this draft - they are essentially tanking to position themselves for one next season. Stop the tanking nonsense -- the team has already said that is not what they are doing -- and they are not.

Some are saying that now the team can focus on positioning themselves for a QB next draft -- far from the truth. After the draft is over, the team will move on to adding some undrafted free-agent players -- more trades and FA signings -- and then its on to preparing for THIS season. The Dolphins will do the right thing and approach this season in the way they should - at seasons end we will see where they are at in preparation for the next draft.

This may be rebuilding team but they are focused on the present -- as they should. Enough with the tanking shit already. For a fan base that complains about losing so much it certainly is a bit anticlimactic to be cheering for losses already. STOP.

Embrace the process.

Agreed I'd be more disappointed if they took a QB in the first round forced him to play behind a bad oline and ruined him. Best to fix the lines first although if Lock or Grier are taken to learn behind Fitz this year that would be fine if that's who they like. Less pressure and you possibly find your QB this year instead of next. But if they decide to continue to fix the lines I'm cool with that too...

 

[Paolo305613]

Fins engaged in talks with the Cardinals for Rosen - could cost the Dolphins their second round pick as opposed to just swapping spots.

Fins trying to give up less, of course -- Cardinals, the opposite, as expected.

If the Fins are able to do it by just swapping spots in the round, im good with that - if they have to give up picks just for Rosen - its not worth it. Nothing against Rosen, of course - its just the Dolphins have too many needs to sacrifice picks

 

[FanofPelicans]

The rumor is that the Fins will be trading their 2nd round pick for Rosen. A 3rd round pick would have been better because the Fins could have used the 2nd round pick on an Olineman. That said, Rosen could still become a franchise QB. I think the Fins have to have quality starters on the Oline to give Rosen or Fitzpatrick a chance to succeed. Also, The Jets and Bills added very good DTs in the draft.

Has there ever been a player that would have more of a chip on his shoulder than Rosen? I think the Fins will get his best effort. He deserves more of a chance to show what he can do. I understand the Murray selection but it doesn't mean that Rosen can't be an NFL starter with the right teammates and coaching.

 

[Paolo305613]

Does Harris get moved to 3-4 OLB similar to the Suggs role? They have to do something with the guy to get some value no?

Dolphins coaching staff and front office, since the maker-over -- have talked about being diverse/flexible especially in the defensive scheme, so I don't think we should get concerned about where guys will play at this point. This coaching staff, unlike the previous, seems to already be aware of each guys strengths and weaknesses -- and they are prepared to put these guys in the best position for them to succeed.

This is a staff that looks ready to make the pieces work - as opposed to making shit up, throwing guys under the bus and chasing them out like the previous staff did from the moment they got here.

This coaching staff is doing their part -- lets see how each guy responds when the time comes.

 

[Paolo305613]

On Josh Rosen, a lot of talk about how he is handling the Murray selection by the Cardinals -- not the best of looks for a QB -- less so for a team that is rebuilding and try to recreate a positive culture on and off the field. I think all of us who have followed the sport can understand his frustration - but there are better ways to handle the situation.

The draft is about to start - from this moment until the Fins make their selection, I think that kid needs to get his act together -- or else he just won't be worth the potential investment. His attitude may well change on a new team -- but he is certainly not possessing the most positive of traits in this situation.

 

[Paolo305613]

Fins fans, you get your wish: The Fins have made a trade

Fins trade the 48th and 116th overall to the Saints for Picks 62,202 and a 2020 second round pick


The Rosen trade can still happen - the Fins have essentially devalued their original spot and will see if the Cardinals will still make the trade -- it would be a steal for the Fins at this point, at least in terms of value.

 

[Southieinnc]

Agreed I'd be more disappointed if they took a QB in the first round forced him to play behind a bad oline and ruined him. Best to fix the lines first although if Lock or Grier are taken to learn behind Fitz this year that would be fine if that's who they like. Less pressure and you possibly find your QB this year instead of next. But if they decide to continue to fix the lines I'm cool with that too...

There was not a good 1st round QB available. Smart to walk away from that.....