Wilson Signs largest contract in NFL History

[Ojb81]

Congratulations to Russell, and good on the Seahawks for not allowing him to get away.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

yeah but thats because Clark doesn't have his deal. Right now the 2020 free agent list looks like this.

Frank Clark
Bobby Wagner
Barkevious Mingo
Jaron Brown
George Fant
Mychal Kendricks
Mike Iupati
Quinton Jefferson
Cassius Marsh
Jarran Reed
Akeem King
Neiko Thorpe
C.J. Prosise
Nick Vannett
Jamie Meder
Nate Orchard
Germain Ifedi

Some of those guys will need to be paid and not cheaply or they will be gone. This is only a list of UFA not the RFA. Hawks have a 5th year option i do believe on Ifedi but i just don't know if they pull the trigger on that. He needs to play better. LOTS better.

Remember Kam is still on the books next year for $14M or something.. so that's a huge savings if we just cut him (if he's never going to play again).

 

[WizardHawk]

He didnt shoot the moon like people thought he was holding out for. His agent said he compromised to stay here and he respected it. It won't be the top deal for long. Someone will beat it next year and it won't be top 5 when it expires.

The idiots hanging on the hot take bait about trades were wrong. He's a hawk for life.

This is the deal that had to happen. It's better to have the guy that can carry a bad team and struggle to get talent around him than have lots of money and no top flight QB.

 

[Myles]

He didnt shoot the moon like people thought he was holding out for.

Highest contract ever and a $65 million signing bonus. I think he shot the moon!

 

[flyerhawk]

This is the deal that had to happen. It's better to have the guy that can carry a bad team and struggle to get talent around him than have lots of money and no top flight QB.

Exactly this.

If you are given a choice between elite QB and little cap space and roll of the dice and lots of cap space you take the former every single time.

 

[Mariners_44]

He didnt shoot the moon like people thought he was holding out for. His agent said he compromised to stay here and he respected it. It won't be the top deal for long. Someone will beat it next year and it won't be top 5 when it expires.

The idiots hanging on the hot take bait about trades were wrong. He's a hawk for life.

This is the deal that had to happen. It's better to have the guy that can carry a bad team and struggle to get talent around him than have lots of money and no top flight QB.

I think he’s a Hawk as long as John and Pete are still around; he goes as they go. His contract is closely tied to theirs, and as soon as they leave it’ll be a crapshoot with what Russ does. Though, he will have been a hawk for 12 years by the time this expires, hard to imagine him leaving at that point. This was the big one that probably cements him here for the rest of his career.

 

[Myles]

Exactly this.

If you are given a choice between elite QB and little cap space and roll of the dice and lots of cap space you take the former every single time.

Maybe true, but it is changing a bit with the rules geared for the offense. The gap between a top QB and an average QB isn't as big as it once was.
Just look at the QB ratings from last season. No Brady, Rodgers or Luck in the top 10. I know the QB rating is a bit of a flawed metric, but it has its merit.

 

[Warden]

Great quarterbacks do not win Superbowls. Only great teams with very good QBS win Superbowls. You give such a large percentage of your cap dollar to one position you become weak at other positions preventing you from being a great team. Wilson will keep us competitive but we will always fall short in building a team around him that is good enough to win it all. Our window has closed.

 

[flyerhawk]

Maybe true, but it is changing a bit with the rules geared for the offense. The gap between a top QB and an average QB isn't as big as it once was.
Just look at the QB ratings from last season. No Brady, Rodgers or Luck in the top 10. I know the QB rating is a bit of a flawed metric, but it has its merit.

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But that isn't really the comparison. The option isn't elite QB at a high price or competent QB at cheap price.

It is elite QB at a high price or a complete roll of the dice. If you hit on that roll then great. But usually you don't. Lots of teams that have been in the QB wilderness for a very long time.

 

[flyerhawk]

Great quarterbacks do not win Superbowls. Only great teams with very good QBS win Superbowls. You give such a large percentage of your cap dollar to one position you become weak at other positions preventing you from being a great team. Wilson will keep us competitive but we will always fall short in building a team around him that is good enough to win it all. Our window has closed.

Drew Brees was a terrible call away from being in the Super Bowl. Tom Brady has won 2 of the past 3.

IMO, Aaron Rodgers was hampered by a really bad coach and some bad personnel decisions.

Our window truly closes when Wilson leaves/retires.

 

[Warden]

Drew Brees was a terrible call away from being in the Super Bowl. Tom Brady has won 2 of the past 3.

IMO, Aaron Rodgers was hampered by a really bad coach and some bad personnel decisions.

Our window truly closes when Wilson leaves/retires.

Tim Brady does not make top ten money, he purposely structures his contracts in a manor where his team can afford to have a supporting cast. Only one team with a player in the top ten highest paid players has won the Superbowls in the last 25 years and that was the Giants. Eli Manning was just made the list being ranked tenth in one of their victories. Say what you want, argue your case all you want, but history says it doesn’t happen. You are banking on the exception

 

[Anointed One]

Yeah definitely don't agree with that.

New CBA agreement will more than likely increase the cap space... Plus, P. Mahomes, D. Watson, J. Goff; C. Wentz getting new agreements in a few years will make RW's contract look like a bargain...

 

[Anointed One]

Our window truly closes when Wilson leaves/retires.

Unless we have an Aaron Rodgers, Steve Young, Tom Brady and a Russell Wilson sitting behind him when his time is up... *Crosses fingers*

 

[Judge Fudge]

Well....

We can breathe a little easier now.

Don't worry about trolls. I'll take care of then

 

[flyerhawk]

Tim Brady does not make top ten money, he purposely structures his contracts in a manor where his team can afford to have a supporting cast. Only one team with a player in the top ten highest paid players has won the Superbowls in the last 25 years and that was the Giants. Eli Manning was just made the list being ranked tenth in one of their victories. Say what you want, argue your case all you want, but history says it doesn’t happen. You are banking on the exception

Not sure where you are getting your data.

According to this...

NFL Rankings

since 2011 3 QBs that won the Super Bowl were in the top 10 cap hits for the year they are playing. Tom Brady last year, Peyton Manning and Eli Manning.

Furthermore, there is a lot of statistical noise here. I had this discussion with @blstoker.

Before you can make an assessment on the impact of QBs salaries on a team's chance to win a Super Bowl, you have to come up with a statistical probability for a team to win a Super Bowl at all.

Now if we were to just do equal odds, that would mean there would be a 3% chance for any one team to win a Super Bowl in any given year. Spread that out over 10 years that is about 26% of any team winning a Super Bowl.

Top 10 QBs represent 31% of the starting QBs. So statistically speaking they should have about a 10% chance of winning a Super Bowl over 10 years.

Now honestly that math doesn't mean all that much since not all teams are equal. But my point here is that you can't really look at one variable like QB salary and compare it to another variable(Super Bowl wins) and get something meaningful. Matt Ryan was a top 5 paid QB but he doesn't count because his team choked a Super Bowl away? Aaron Rodgers had several teams choke away opportunities. That 15-1 Packers team was amazing

Ultimately it boils down to two things.

Does having a top tier QB improve your chances at winning a Super Bowl? I think all evidence points to yes. The odds are still against winning a Super Bowl even with an elite QB because there is only one winner each year.

Is your team a prisoner of the moment with the QB they are signing? Just about everyone thought that Joe Flacco was wildly overpaid from the moment he put ink to paper. Matt Stafford has always been a good but not great QB. Jimmy Garapolo got paid an obscene amount of money for 6 above average performances. Kirk Cousins has been a league average QB that occasionally plays at a Pro Bowl level. I completely understand why teams signed those guys but it seems that spending a boat load of money on a high risk QB is maybe not such a good idea.

 

[WizardHawk]

Highest contract ever and a $65 million signing bonus. I think he shot the moon!

There were a lot of chattering heads claiming it would be closer to $40mil yr. Instead it was a pretty standard deal. It will be surpassed next year by the next guy in line. It wasn't unique.

Drew Brees was a terrible call away from being in the Super Bowl. Tom Brady has won 2 of the past 3.

IMO, Aaron Rodgers was hampered by a really bad coach and some bad personnel decisions.

Our window truly closes when Wilson leaves/retires.

Rodgers was also hampered by bad injuries in two different seasons that probably killed those years. That first collar bone season they were deadly with him and hot garbage without him.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Great quarterbacks do not win Superbowls. Only great teams with very good QBS win Superbowls. You give such a large percentage of your cap dollar to one position you become weak at other positions preventing you from being a great team. Wilson will keep us competitive but we will always fall short in building a team around him that is good enough to win it all. Our window has closed.

Building a team isn't through FA. Yes, a FA here and there is needed but building a team is done through the draft. PC/JS have done a really good job of building championship caliber teams and can focus on areas since the most important position is already in place. As long as RW is upright and healthy, this team will be in the SB conversation.

 

[seattlefan75]

That's great he got his money....but I don't want to hear shit about not having pieces around him on offense he better make it work with DB, Lockett, and our run game

 

[Myles]

There were a lot of chattering heads claiming it would be closer to $40mil yr. Instead it was a pretty standard deal. It will be surpassed next year by the next guy in line. It wasn't unique.

I think the $65 million signing bonus is a nice concession to the $5 million per year difference. Either way, he is currently the highest paid NFL player ever. He is unique in that currently. But you are right, it'll be surpassed in the next year or 2.

 

[flyerhawk]

That's great he got his money....but I don't want to hear shit about not having pieces around him on offense he better make it work with DB, Lockett, and our run game

It's all about the OL.