Texas Rangers 2018-2019 Offseason Thread

[Kelleyman]

Might keep an eye on this guy

 

[saddles]

Might keep an eye on this guy

He came over after the trade and did nothing but impress.

Arias, Terry, and Apostel all hit great for Spokane.

 

[saddles]

It will be interesting to see how many levels he makes it through next year. Him and Barlow both.

 

[scotsman1948]

Pitch selection and location could be on a catcher as well. How many times at the MLB level have you observed his work in detail? After 45 starts in AAA he should have little problems with your concerns but if he does, he needs to be right where he is. I doubt seriously that location and selection is a major concern that can't be resolved at the MLB level. As far as evaluation goes, can't be at a better place.

When he is missing the target and ending up out over the plate it is a major concern. I understand you don't agree so we'll just have to see what the new staff thinks.

 

[scotsman1948]

Are you sure you just haven't made up your mind that you would rather see a FA pitcher in the slot that he would take up? As far as how he looked up here this year and how much upper level experience he has it would be hard to find someone from the all of the minor leagues who is more ready than he is to be given a shot. His ERA and WHIP this year rivaled any starter that we threw out there including Minor. He was just barely below Minor in both categories. If he isn't ready to be considered he never will be.

Nope I just don't think he is ready foa full season yet. Are you sure that you aren't so desperate to rush these guys out there? If he isn't ready then yeah I would bring in a FA on a 1+1 with the intent of bring him up around the allstar game or a bit later if the FA falters. What would you do if you start him on the roster on opening day and he can't perform send him back down andwhat

 

[saddles]

One thing to keep in mind when discussing next year's roster with someone is how they view teh final record next year. If it doesn't make much difference to someone if the Rangers win 74 or 84 then they are going to view how the roster is made up next year one way. If someone who really wants us to finish slightly above .500 versus only winning 75 or less, then they are going to view how the roster is made up next year in a completely different way. The differences we have as far as how the roster is made up is just an extension of how we view what the record needs to be next year. To me it doesn't matter if we finish with 75 wins or 85 wins. Next year is about development to me.

 

[saddles]

Nope I just don't think he is ready foa full season yet. Are you sure that you aren't so desperate to rush these guys out there? If he isn't ready then yeah I would bring in a FA on a 1+1 with the intent of bring him up around the allstar game or a bit later if the FA falters. What would you do if you start him on the roster on opening day and he can't perform send him back down andwhat

The word "rush" is not even in the mix for someone with 45 AAA starts. That is why I asked you that. You are using an argument against him that simply doesn't fit. When you say he would be rushed it is like you have nothing else to use as an argument except that your mind is already made up.

How many AAA starts is enough for starting pitching prospects if 45 isn't nearly enough?

If he can't perform you do the same thing you do if you have an injury or if someone like Matt Moore can't perform. You do the same as you do every year. You do the same thing that you would do if any of the FA pitchers you want to bring in fails to perform. You call upon your minor league depth.

 

[saddles]

 

[saddles]

 

[scotsman1948]

The word "rush" is not even in the mix for someone with 45 AAA starts. That is why I asked you that. You are using an argument against him that simply doesn't fit. When you say he would be rushed it is like you have nothing else to use as an argument except that your mind is already made up.

How many AAA starts is enough for starting pitching prospects if 45 isn't nearly enough?

If he can't perform you do the same thing you do if you have an injury or if someone like Matt Moore can't perform. You do the same as you do every year. You do the same thing that you would do if any of the FA pitchers you want to bring in fails to perform. You call upon your minor league depth.

45 or a dozen if he hasn't gotten the control issue resolved then it needs to be worked on. But again if the management staff thinks he's ready they put him on the opening day staff then I support their decision if they think he needs more time at AAA to hone his control then I'll support that decision.

 

[DT LUNA]

When he is missing the target and ending up out over the plate it is a major concern. I understand you don't agree so we'll just have to see what the new staff thinks.

You talk like he misses the target and it's a major concern. Again , how many games have you viewed in detail that would make you think he is a major concern? One, two or three maybe. He has not been up at MLB level long so I doubt seriously the numbers bare you out. Never seen a pitcher that doesn't have a bad night. Red Sox was a example of that last night.

 

[saddles]

You talk like he misses the target and it's a major concern. Again , how many games have you viewed in detail that would make you think he is a major concern? One, two or three maybe. He has not been up at MLB level long so I doubt seriously the numbers bare you out. Never seen a pitcher that doesn't have a bad night. Red Sox was a example of that last night.

His next to last start was a rough one. I think he gave up 3 HR. That is probably what he is remembering the most. Every pitcher has those kinds of games at times though.

 

[DT LUNA]

His next to last start was a rough one. I think he gave up 3 HR. That is probably what he is remembering the most. Every pitcher has those kinds of games at times though.

Of course they do but in this case it's a very small sample size.

 

[DT LUNA]

His next to last start was a rough one. I think he gave up 3 HR. That is probably what he is remembering the most. Every pitcher has those kinds of games at times though.

Forgot to mention Chris Sale with a bad outing last night. It happens.

 

[Kelleyman]

I think Sampson and Mendez start with the club. Jurardo probably not. Volquez maybe. Yes we will pursue pitching and yes it is a year of development otherwise these guys would not get these chances. They have had time. It is time to perform. Lucky for them

 

[Kelleyman]

No word on Visquel or Alomar. It makes me think they aren't interested. Bringing in the Ray guys is interesting. They always overperfrom in my opinion

 

[Kelleyman]

Forgot to mention Chris Sale with a bad outing last night. It happens.

Not to mention Price and his millions

 

[scotsman1948]

Of course they do but in this case it's a very small sample size.

I just remember others like him. I've already said it is just a feeling I have that he might not be ready but it's not my call. If management thinks he is then I support that decision if they don't think he is ready and send him to AAA then I will support that decision.

 

[scotsman1948]

Forgot to mention Chris Sale with a bad outing last night. It happens.

Sorry I expressed an opinion that seems to call for ridicule I will stop.

 

[saddles]

Sorry I expressed an opinion that seems to call for ridicule I will stop.

Don't do that. If we all agreed it would get very boring in here.