Cowboys better start scouting college QB’s

[PhillyGreen]

I so want Jerrah to lock down Dak to a 10 year contract soon.

Don't be surprised if that happens. Jerrah hates admitting he is wrong about anything. The man has a serious complex about that.

 

[Hank Kingsley]

I had them pegged for 8-8 to 9-7 initially...I'm not ready to change that for the better or worse yet. But just looking at their roster, I'm not sure why they let Dez go...I don't see the production guys to make up for him.

I think they thought they were going to get Earl Thomas and were freeing up $. Plus they were shelling out for O lineman and Lawrence, etc.

Either way, they have no threat of note outside. Not saying Dez was all that and then some but..........

 

[Hank Kingsley]

Dez wasnt producing either. Dont know why people give him so much credit.
Hell they werent even double covering him.
They would double the speedy Witten & the huge Beasley.
They were afraid of Beasley more than Dez!!! I wish people would stop acting like Dez was a true #1 receiver last year. He sucked! & sure in the fuck not worth 10 mil.

Still not sure why they let Dez go?

Given what they have now, yes.

 

[Manster7588]

but, wait, i thought Dak was so much better than Romo and Cowboys fans were so happy to finally have a 'real' quarterback ?

I for one never said Dak was better than healthy Romo. Now injured Romo that's another story, and fully understand moving on to Dak.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Dez wasnt producing either. Dont know why people give him so much credit.
Hell they werent even double covering him.
They would double the speedy Witten & the huge Beasley.
They were afraid of Beasley more than Dez!!! I wish people would stop acting like Dez was a true #1 receiver last year. He sucked! & sure in the fuck not worth 10 mil.

Still not sure why they let Dez go?

I was with you until he sucked....lol

Not seeing DAL every week, but enough to have an opinion...he'd lost a step, no question, and he wasn't worth his cap hit...but, he still made plays. Looking at the small sample of wk 1, yes, that question is still out there.

 

[shopson67]

I think they thought they were going to get Earl Thomas and were freeing up $. Plus they were shelling out for O lineman and Lawrence, etc.

Either way, they have no threat of note outside. Not saying Dez was all that and then some but..........

They need to get Gallup out there more and see what he can do.

 

[CaptainStubing]

Dak was absolutely, 100% better than Romo at that point. Romo couldn't sneeze without ending up in the hospital. He was no longer fit to be playing in the NFL. Don't try to sell it as fans were saying he was better than Romo in his prime. He was a better choice than Romo in 2016 and by a decent amount. There's a difference.

i'm not trying to 'sell' anything ... the boys fans that i know personally (not here) thought Romo was never going to take the boys anywhere and they wanted him gone long before they even drafted Dak and when Dak exploded onto the scene in his rookie season and they were winning so many games, they were saying that they finally had a good QB again in Dallas ... first time since Aikman.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

They need to get Gallup out there more and see what he can do.

A lot of people think WR1 are not really that important...maybe not when you have a proven triggerman, but Dak could definitely use a legit WR1, else teams should just stack the box and dare them to throw it.

 

[PhillyGreen]

A lot of people think WR1 are not really that important...maybe not when you have a proven triggerman, but Dak could definitely use a legit WR1, else teams should just stack the box and dare them to throw it.

Any QB not named Rodgers or Brady will need to have good weapons. I am one that believes a WR1 is very important to the passing game. If you have a good QB you can get by with a couple of quality WR2 receivers. Right now I believe the Cowboys don't have anything better than a WR3 on their team and there is no way Dak can throw them open.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

A lot of people think WR1 are not really that important...maybe not when you have a proven triggerman, but Dak could definitely use a legit WR1, else teams should just stack the box and dare them to throw it.

Agreed. Some QBs don't need that true #1, maybe it's the QB, maybe it's the style of offense run. Like I can't even imagine the Giants without Beckham. Than I look across town at the Jets and see Enunwa, Kearse, Anderson and Terrel Pryor and think a collection of solid guys may be just fine

 

[handicappers]

If Eli could lead Beckham with throws he'd gain 200 yds a game. Eli should retire.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Any QB not named Rodgers or Brady will need to have good weapons. I am one that believes a WR1 is very important to the passing game. If you have a good QB you can get by with a couple of quality WR2 receivers. Right now I believe the Cowboys don't have anything better than a WR3 on their team and there is no way Dak can throw them open.

I think a legit WR1 is pretty valuable as well...vital to the whole passing game, not just his production, but drawing doubles, forcing 1 on 1 to other positions.

My thing is this...Dak may not ever be a 5000 yd passer, but until he has some legit threats, I wouldn't be actively trying to replace him unless his play really goes to shit....losing Dez and Witten the same season, that's going to hurt most QBs that are not totally established.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Agreed. Some QBs don't need that true #1, maybe it's the QB, maybe it's the style of offense run. Like I can't even imagine the Giants without Beckham. Than I look across town at the Jets and see Enunwa, Kearse, Anderson and Terrel Pryor and think a collection of solid guys may be just fine

Not a true #1, Pryor has some WR1 skills, but you said it...the top QBs make WRs better, and there are only about 4 or 5 of those QBs playing.

The superstar WR1 hasn't proven to be a need to win the SB, but over the 16 week season, most QBs need that guy.

 

[ROMOTOOWENS]

I think a legit WR1 is pretty valuable as well...vital to the whole passing game, not just his production, but drawing doubles, forcing 1 on 1 to other positions.

My thing is this...Dak may not ever be a 5000 yd passer, but until he has some legit threats, I wouldn't be actively trying to replace him unless his play really goes to shit....losing Dez and Witten the same season, that's going to hurt most QBs that are not totally established.

That’s going to be the thing- can a game manager get it done. They showed the NFC North QBs the other night. Rodgers - 40 mill a year. Cousins- 27 millions yr ( 26-30 record). Stafford - 25 million yr (60-65 record). Daks likely going to have a better record but a lot of that can be attributed to the team, whereas if you take Stafford and Cousins off their teams they might not be close to .500. I’m already seeing Mariotta and 25 million/ yr. being discussed. Dak is going to have some nice games and a couple of bad ones just like any QB. The thing is he will probably never have one as bad as Stafford did Monday. In turn he will probably never have one as good as Fitzpatrick did on Sunday. I always looked at Alex Smith as the game manager type. I think he is better than that now. Maybe Dak can improve. I do know if Will Grier is sitting there when we pick, which right now it looks like he will be, it will be tough to pass on him.

 

[PhillyGreen]

My thing is this...Dak may not ever be a 5000 yd passer, but until he has some legit threats, I wouldn't be actively trying to replace him unless his play really goes to shit....losing Dez and Witten the same season, that's going to hurt most QBs that are not totally established.

Right now based on what I see Dak will never be elite because he is not the type of player that can take a game over when they absolutely need him to. He could never do what Rodgers did against the Bears. With that said.....how many can. I think all too often we as fans set the bar way too high. Expecting these young players to perform like Brady and Rodgers. It would be nice to have a QB that can do that but they are very, very rare.

Dak has been screwed from the onset because of his inept coaching staff and an owner that will not stay out of what the teams is doing. Dak had a poor year from the QB perspective and that carried over into this year because he was just bad on Sunday. He had absolutely zero pocket presence and looked completely lost out there. I think a big culprit is not enough reps with the starters. He did not get near enough play time in the pre-season and it shows. He should gradually improve but it may cost the Cowboys their season. They could be 0-4 before at the end of September. I think it is unlikely though because the Lions are just bad but losses to the Giants and Seahawks would not be surprising.

 

[jarntt]

I was with you until he sucked....lol

Not seeing DAL every week, but enough to have an opinion...he'd lost a step, no question, and he wasn't worth his cap hit...but, he still made plays. Looking at the small sample of wk 1, yes, that question is still out there.

Hit didn't really make plays. I mean every player "makes" plays from time to time but it took him 133 targets last year to compile 69 catches and 838 yards. That's what you expect from Cole Beasley this year in 30 less targets sans the whining and distractions. Last year week 1 Dez had two catches. That's not what the Cowboys need and based on the fact that he is still a FA it isn't what other teams think they need either. There is only one way to word it and last year Dez sucked. Hopefully whenever he signs he'll be better. I hope for the best for him.

 

[jarntt]

They need to get Gallup out there more and see what he can do.

He looks good. If there is a #1 on that team it is him.

 

[Manster7588]

i'm not trying to 'sell' anything ... the boys fans that i know personally (not here) thought Romo was never going to take the boys anywhere and they wanted him gone long before they even drafted Dak and when Dak exploded onto the scene in his rookie season and they were winning so many games, they were saying that they finally had a good QB again in Dallas ... first time since Aikman.

I know some of those same fans. They wanted Romo gone no matter who his replacement would be.

 

[ROMOTOOWENS]

I know some of those same fans. They wanted Romo home no matter who his replacement would be.

Sounds like some idiots

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Right now based on what I see Dak will never be elite because he is not the type of player that can take a game over when they absolutely need him to. He could never do what Rodgers did against the Bears. With that said.....how many can. I think all too often we as fans set the bar way too high. Expecting these young players to perform like Brady and Rodgers. It would be nice to have a QB that can do that but they are very, very rare.

Dak has been screwed from the onset because of his inept coaching staff and an owner that will not stay out of what the teams is doing. Dak had a poor year from the QB perspective and that carried over into this year because he was just bad on Sunday. He had absolutely zero pocket presence and looked completely lost out there. I think a big culprit is not enough reps with the starters. He did not get near enough play time in the pre-season and it shows. He should gradually improve but it may cost the Cowboys their season. They could be 0-4 before at the end of September. I think it is unlikely though because the Lions are just bad but losses to the Giants and Seahawks would not be surprising.

I didn't see the game aside from some highlights so I can't comment on his week 1 performance, but as said earlier, I've seen enough of Dak's game.

There are only maybe 2 or 3 QBs in the league on a level with Rodgers, and Brady so that's not the NFL standard. The Cowboys season has been shaped since the offseason. DEF was supposed to be better and OFC gets Zeke back hopefully for the duration of the season...maybe 9 wins...I saw some projections of .500.