Your all time favorite NFL QB

[Rex Racer]

Don't get me wrong brother Brady is fucking clutch, amazing QB but if we are simply talking who's the best "QB" of all time it's Marino by a country mile...

I'm gonna have to circle back to "no".

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

 

[Nosferatu]

I'm gonna have to circle back to "no".

I'm thinking you might feel differently if you were able to look at this not as a Patriots fan. Who knows maybe not though...

 

[Wazmankg]

Tarkenton was one of mine too, but Jurgensen was my guy. He was the best pure passer of his era. The Skins didn't have a running game at all but Jurgensen throwing to Taylor, Mitchell & Smith used to put on a show.

 

[Rex Racer]

I'm thinking you might feel differently if you were able to look at this not as a Patriots fan. Who knows maybe not though...

It has nothing to do with being a Patriot's fan. It has to do with the fact that Marino was a choke artist with a million dollar arm and 10c head while Brady has better stats than Marino in every category to go along with a most impressive trophy case.

 

[Nosferatu]

It has nothing to do with being a Patriot's fan. It has to do with the fact that Marino was a choke artist with a million dollar arm and 10c head while Brady has better stats than Marino in every category to go along with a most impressive trophy case.

lolzzz ok.... Of course it has to do with you being a Patriots fan. Choke artist? How about he had shit around him his entire career and the biggest difference Belichick > Shula. Better stats? Seriously? You do realize the rules are a smidge different now right? I had respected your opinion until this bullshit post...

 

[Rex Racer]

lolzzz ok.... Of course it has to do with you being a Patriots fan. Choke artist? How about he had shit around him his entire career and the biggest difference Belichick > Shula. Better stats? Seriously? You do realize the rules are a smidge different now right? I had respected your opinion until this bullshit post...

Marino played on some great teams, loaded on offense and defense. That you would claim otherwise?.................... well, maybe you missed a few games.

 

[Nosferatu]

Marino played on some great teams, loaded on offense and defense. That you would claim otherwise?.................... well, maybe you missed a few games.

No, no he didn't. If you want me to post some of the stats from those teams I will, i'll make time. The best running back he ever had was Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, not the HOF NBA player the running back oh and he sucked, go look at how many different running backs he had, he made average WR's like Duper and Clayton look good and his defenses were not that good, go look it up, stop posting shit you read on bleacher report and actually take a minute to look shit up before you stick your entire leg in your mouth!

 

[kburjr]

Bart Starr was my home team guy. Drafted in the 17th round. 5 rings in 7 years. Take that Tom Brady.

For my non-home team, Dave Krieg. Undrafted out of a small private school in the small town my wife is from. Played 19 years. One of my HS buddies coached baseball there at the time.

I do like a good rags-to-riches stiry

 

[Inquisitor95]

 

[Cedrique]

I need to change my favorite QB. I somehow forgot Randall Cunningham.

I especially liked his first season when Buddy Ryan would only bring him in on 3rd and long situations lol

 

[obxyankeefan]

Roger Staubach was my favorite.

my favorite that isnt a HOF QB though was Steve Deberg.

that guy had horrible luck. All he was ever replaced by was HOFers right after he gets to his new job pretty much LOL

Denver got Elway
SF got Joe Montana (they actually had posters of Deberg & Walsh saying something about changing the game. Their team wasnt all that back then)
Then went to the hapless Buccs & then they drafted Steve Young.
Finally in KC he got to start for awhile.
I will always remember him playing Football with a pin sticking out of his Pinky, Grimacing just taking the snaps from center. Back when football players were allowed to be football players!

That is my favorite "non favorite team" QB.

you forgot that he was replaced in Kansas City when they traded for Montana. He then went to Miami to back up Marino and finally made the Super Bowl with the 98 Falcons.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

you forgot that he was replaced in Kansas City when they traded for Montana. He then went to Miami to back up Marino and finally made the Super Bowl with the 98 Falcons.

I didnt forget
but he made some mad #'s especially under crazy Rain behind Marino..... which is another HOFer
If I didnt have an HOFer QB for my team I would have loved Steve Deberg as my back up as the dolphins did.
the Falcons............ ehhhh.....

 

[packerzrule]

old school - Starr, Unitas, Dawson and Gabriel

middle school - Montana, Staubach, Stabler and Kelly

new school - Brady, Manning and Favre

most recent - Wilson, Watson, Rodgers and Prescott

 

[Mebert]

Steve Young

 

[soxfan1468927]

lolzzz ok.... Of course it has to do with you being a Patriots fan. Choke artist? How about he had shit around him his entire career and the biggest difference Belichick > Shula. Better stats? Seriously? You do realize the rules are a smidge different now right? I had respected your opinion until this bullshit post...

Well a couple things:

1. Marino threw multiple picks in 10 out of his 18 playoff games and the Dolphins went 1-9. In the 8 games he threw 1 or fewer picks, they went 7-1.

2. Even adjusting for era, Brady throws more TDs and fewer INTs per game than Marino did. TDs is close, Brady has thrown about 37.1% more TDs per game than the league average since 2001 while Marino threw 34.5% more than the league average from 1983-1999. INTs aren't close. Brady has thrown 34.8% fewer INTs per game than the league average since 2001 while Marino threw 13.7% fewer than league average from 1983-1999. Marino has the edge in yards, 24.9% better than league average to Brady's 19.8% better.

 

[NEPatsfan]

I'm thinking you might feel differently if you were able to look at this not as a Patriots fan. Who knows maybe not though...

That's just stupid talk.


Brady is not just the QB G.O.A.T., he is on a path to be the NFL G.O.A.T.

Marino isn't even in the discussion any longer.

 

[soxfan1468927]

No, no he didn't. If you want me to post some of the stats from those teams I will, i'll make time. The best running back he ever had was Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, not the HOF NBA player the running back oh and he sucked, go look at how many different running backs he had, he made average WR's like Duper and Clayton look good and his defenses were not that good, go look it up, stop posting shit you read on bleacher report and actually take a minute to look shit up before you stick your entire leg in your mouth!

And he certainly made Duper and Clayton better, but having both of those guys for 10 seasons is a luxury that Brady never had.

And it's really splitting hairs on the running backs. In Brady's career the Pats average ranking in yards per rushing attempt has been 20.3 out of 32 teams, and the Dolphins during Marino's career average ranking was 19.8 out of 28 team. So while he may not have had any great running backs, he had some decent running games, including 3 times in the top 10. Brady's 5 Super Bowls were all won without a running game in the top half of the league, including one where they were 30th in yards per attempt.

I agree on the defense and coaching, Brady has obviously benefited greater than Marino did. But as you can see, I'm not weighing team accomplishments too heavily. I look at how a QB performed in a playoff run. Brady has had two championship runs where he didn't have to lean on his defense to bail him out, 2004 and 2014. Marino didn't have any.

 

[Rex Racer]

And he certainly made Duper and Clayton better, but having both of those guys for 10 seasons is a luxury that Brady never had.

And it's really splitting hairs on the running backs. In Brady's career the Pats average ranking in yards per rushing attempt has been 20.3 out of 32 teams, and the Dolphins during Marino's career average ranking was 19.8 out of 28 team. So while he may not have had any great running backs, he had some decent running games, including 3 times in the top 10. Brady's 5 Super Bowls were all won without a running game in the top half of the league, including one where they were 30th in yards per attempt.

I agree on the defense and coaching, Brady has obviously benefited greater than Marino did. But as you can see, I'm not weighing team accomplishments too heavily. I look at how a QB performed in a playoff run. Brady has had two championship runs where he didn't have to lean on his defense to bail him out, 2004 and 2014. Marino didn't have any.

I don't agree on the defense or the coaching. Miami had some great defenses when Marino played, and they were typically the class of the AFC. Also I think it's a stretch to say that Belichick is a huge advantage over Don Shula who was considered one of the best coaches in the game when Marina was playing.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

That's just stupid talk.


Brady is not just the QB G.O.A.T., he is on a path to be the NFL G.O.A.T.

Marino isn't even in the discussion any longer.

Thanks for your objective take on the subject