Watson wants the Jets

[DirtDirtDirt]

I actually see the exact opposite. Franchise QB not happy and you can get a boatload for him and start over with that #2 this year....you pull the trigger. I would be shockrd if he isn’t traded

I agree, I think Houston can come out of this looking great, especially if that QB at 2 hits

 

[Schmoopy1000]

I agree, I think Houston can come out of this looking great, especially if that QB at 2 hits

the problem with this is. They often dont hit.
They got a top Qb now, why risk possibly drafting the next Ryan Leaf?

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

the problem with this is. They often dont hit.
They got a top Qb now, why risk possibly drafting the next Ryan Leaf?

I dunno, it’s been a while since a top 5-10 QB drafted hasn’t had success in the league

but I’m with ya, if Houston can keep Watson, that’s the preferable option, but if they get completely boxed in, and it looks like that’s what’s happening, they can come out of it in decent shape considering the compensation they would get back

 

[Ricky Roma]

Reports: Deshaun Watson prefers Jets as trade destination, wants to play for Robert Saleh

Watson reportedly wanted the Texans to interview the new Jets head coach. That didn't happen.

sports.yahoo.com

Yahoo sports? Florio?

No offense....but I'll wait for someone like Schefter or Glazer to even think of adding legitimacy to it.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

I dunno, it’s been a while since a top 5-10 QB drafted hasn’t had success in the league

but I’m with ya, if Houston can keep Watson, that’s the preferable option, but if they get completely boxed in, and it looks like that’s what’s happening, they can come out of it in decent shape considering the compensation they would get back

guess they could end up with a Trubisky instead of a Watson.

Thats the thing. Everyone is acting like this is a thing. I dont see how they can be boxed in? The only way Watson could pull that off is to sabotage his own career.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

guess they could end up with a Trubisky instead of a Watson.

Thats the thing. Everyone is acting like this is a thing. I dont see how they can be boxed in? The only way Watson could pull that off is to sabotage his own career.

The more and more he insists and demands out, it’s in Houston’s best interest to move on. It’s not the position you want your most disgruntled player

technically they don’t have to move him, but the uglier it gets, it’s as much in their interest as Watsons

 

[Schmoopy1000]

The more and more he insists and demands out, it’s in Houston’s best interest to move on. It’s not the position you want your most disgruntled player

technically they don’t have to move him, but the uglier it gets, it’s as much in their interest as Watsons

thats one way to look at it.
the other is if you cater to such demands. You open pandora's box. Setting a precedence the team will cave to demands.

 

[Clayton]

I dunno, it’s been a while since a top 5-10 QB drafted hasn’t had success in the league

I'd have to make a list but with QBs you're certainly more likely to get a fringe starter than a bust or a star.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

thats one way to look at it.
the other is if you cater to such demands. You open pandora's box. Setting a precedence the team will cave to demands.

True but no coincidence these instances seem to always occur with completely dysfunctional franchises. Living in NY, Jamal Adams took an even uglier approach with the Jets, 10x a day tweeting out his garbage

and the Jets absolutely hit the lottery when they moved him

not comparing the importance of those 2 players, just think sometimes getting out from an angry player can benefit the franchise long term

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

I'd have to make a list but with QBs you're certainly more likely to get a fringe starter than a bust or a star.

The 2 that come to mind in the top of Round one, Trubinsky and Rosen

but otherwise, feels like it’s been a pretty good recent run

Now of course people have differing opinions on guys like Darnald and Daniel Jones, but IMO, those are incompletes

 

[Schmoopy1000]

True but no coincidence these instances seem to always occur with completely dysfunctional franchises. Living in NY, Jamal Adams took an even uglier approach with the Jets, 10x a day tweeting out his garbage

and the Jets absolutely hit the lottery when they moved him

not comparing the importance of those 2 players, just think sometimes getting out from an angry player can benefit the franchise long term

Ideally yeah you want to get rid of an angry player.
But also there is difference when a player is near the end of a contract & only a couple months into a new contract. people seems to not even think about this. Cap hits & all of that as well. If you just signed a new deal & excepted your signing bonus & whatever other bonuses. I am making you honor it.
My theory is they dont trade him. If they do, it is because some team put together a package deal for him that is too good to be ignored. Short of that. I believe he will still be contracted under the Texans.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Ideally yeah you want to get rid of an angry player.
But also there is difference when a player is near the end of a contract & only a couple months into a new contract. people seems to not even think about this. Cap hits & all of that as well. If you just signed a new deal & excepted your signing bonus & whatever other bonuses. I am making you honor it.
My theory is they dont trade him. If they do, it is because some team put together a package deal for him that is too good to be ignored. Short of that. I believe he will still be contracted under the Texans.

Dont dis-agree overall, but I do think they end up getting offered a silly package they will need to think long and hard on

 

[jarntt]

I dunno, it’s been a while since a top 5-10 QB drafted hasn’t had success in the league

but I’m with ya, if Houston can keep Watson, that’s the preferable option, but if they get completely boxed in, and it looks like that’s what’s happening, they can come out of it in decent shape considering the compensation they would get back

I guess depends how you define success. Not sure any of these guys teams are loving them right now

2015: Winston #1; Mariotta #2
2016: Wentz #2 - not looking good right now but obviously had a great season
2017: Trubisky #2
2018: Darnold#3; Rosen#10
2019: Jones #6; Haskins#15
2020: a little early

 

[jarntt]

The 2 that come to mind in the top of Round one, Trubinsky and Rosen

but otherwise, feels like it’s been a pretty good recent run

Now of course people have differing opinions on guys like Darnald and Daniel Jones, but IMO, those are incompletes

Didn't see this follow up

 

[DJ]

According to @ducky Watson is worth 10 1st’s or at least half of that lol

LOL.

2 and a 2nd plus a player. Maybe some team offers 3 1sts.

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

I highly doubt it. Why would DW, who wants out of a dysfunctional franchise in the Texans, suddenly want to be a part of a franchise that hasn't exactly been the pillar of stability in the Jets? Because of a minority HC? Isn't the owner a pro Trump guy......something that Watson doesn't sound too keen on. Looks more like clickbait to me.

Honestly Ricky, I think the minority thing is a very small part. Most of it has to do with those guys being winners with winning attitudes. And not Houston just going out to get one of their prayer circle buddies from New England. And I'm pretty sure Watson can see that the Texans are only going to get worse and he'll end up like Stafford, Rivers, Ryan, etc. Aside from Ryan's one time failure, none of them even sniffed a ring. Watson wants to win. Maybe the Jets ain't it either but at least they made a good hire and have the resources to turn it around quickly.

 

[PDay8810]

I actually see the exact opposite. Franchise QB not happy and you can get a boatload for him and start over with that #2 this year....you pull the trigger. I would be shockrd if he isn’t traded

I'd agree if this was the NBA.
Watson has zero leverage IMO

 

[Nasty_Magician]

With no first this year and not much cap room, Watson's value for Houston lies in trading him. Shed cap and stockpile draft capital.

Jets can afford him financially and have the assets to move him. Even after trading for him they're loaded with draft picks so in theory the turnaround for the Jets can be pretty quick.

 

[Dude]

I still don’t see how the Jets are a big upgrade for him if they are forced to hand all their draft capital to the Texans, which is pretty much a lock

Jets and upgrade are incompatible in the same sentence. Isn’t that like a misnomer? Or whatever you call that chit.

 

[PDay8810]

Yahoo sports? Florio?

No offense....but I'll wait for someone like Schefter or Glazer to even think of adding legitimacy to it.

YEP...Florio seeks attention moreso than being factual.

Florio is Skip Bayless light to me