More NHL to Vegas talk

[Oldtom]

Battdung grows more desperate and insecure by the daly. Watch me pull a rabbit from out my arse.
Believing Nat Ho League attendance figures from south of the border is akin to believing that people in power tell more than a hint of the truth.

 

[Harry Crack]

Battdung grows more desperate and insecure by the daly. Watch me pull a rabbit from out my arse.
Believing Nat Ho League attendance figures from south of the border is akin to believing that people in power tell more than a hint of the truth.

Now now Tom , he's an idjit , and he's an maniacal ego maniac , .......but he is our idjit maniacal ego maniac

 

[forty_three]

The one guy in Nevada who has heard of hockey speaks out:
http://*********************/making-las-vegas-a-success-a-locals-perspective/

Seems to me he is outlining a lot of reason NOT to do it while trying to make it sound like the NHL should. The NHL has failed in Arizona because they can't get locals engaged. And the guy says here that the entire economy in Vegas is based on transient people. In other words, will there ever be enough locals to make it worthwhile, and will those locals have enough money if people choose somewhere else for vacation?

This part right here makes me want to run screaming from the deal. And the guy makes his point very clearly. Kudos to him. But...

Step #1 Announce Expansion Years in Advance

Let’s be honest if the NHL were to announce a team returning to Quebec one month before the season started you know that city would find a way to make it happen. There is no possible way that would happen in Las Vegas. The NHL needs to give Las Vegas at least TWO-THREE years notice to get everything organized. Without any prep time to build a fan base, gain sponsors, and hire personnel everything will fall apart as it did in Atlanta. This means a potential owner like Foley would have to wait longer before turning any profits but the alternative could be no profits at all.
Step #2 Educate and Engage the Local’s

This is perhaps the most important thing that the league and Foley must do and it is very easy. If an announcement is made two years in advance, then Foley and his team can do the following things. First, supply a couple hundred tickets to LOUD and vocal people maybe college kids to attend Las Vegas Wrangler games, the local ECHL team. This creates more engagement at a lower level of play and will generate discussion of the sport. Second, speak with casinos, bars and other business owners to encourage them to support the NHL either through discussion or showing more games at their establishments. This will create further discussion of the sport and helps build anticipation a very powerful marketing tool. Third, constantly update the Las Vegas media about hockey. The overall idea is to turn Vegas into a place that is talking about hockey before it is even there.

This is what I take from that;
1) Give the fans time to give a shit. And to get them to give a shit, you have to work.
2) Give away tickets, maybe people will show up (Right, Florida?)
3) If the Casinos stop caring, people stop caring.
4) You have to *ask* the local bars and casinos to show the games. By contrast, here, even McDonald's that have TVs show the Blue Jackets or Buckeye Games.


He also mentions Jason Zucker as a person from Nevada who made the NHL. According to his wiki entry, he went to LA when he was 11 to play (Yes, California), and then Michigan when he was 15, eventually going to Denver for college. So the only person Nevada ever put in the NHL didn't really play the game in Nevada (he also wasn't born there). By contrast, Missouri has sent 11 players to the NHL. Hell, Georgia has sent 3.

 

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If Las Vegas is to support an NHL franchise, it won't be on the backs on tourists, according to potential owner Bill Foley, who plans to bring the city its first major sports franchise. "I don't want to see everyone in the stands with a Canucks jersey on," Foley said in an interview with ESPN's Scott Burnside. "I'm not trying to promote the Red Wings."

Those Canucks fans travel well.

 

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You have to *ask* the local bars and casinos to show the games. By contrast, here, even McDonald's that have TVs show the Blue Jackets or Buckeye Games.

And it drives Urban Meyer crazy when they show the Jackets.

 

[forty_three]

And it drives Urban Meyer crazy when they show the Jackets.

He's busy for at least another week.

For once.

 

[DevilishWon]

I'm seeing a 16,000 seat arena INSIDE a new Wynn casino. Video gambling and remote cocktail screens at every seat. Drinks delivered by the always lovely casino waitresses. A full casino wrapping around the seating area.....

What's not to like?

 

[forty_three]

Just heard that the Ownership group in Vegas has brought Gretzky on.

A guy whose wife placed bets on NHL games.



That'll surely quell the concerns about undue influence on NHL games by bookies.

 

[stealth]

at the moment vegas wont work like Daly said the fan base has to be developed but seattle could easily developed theirs.....professional hockey has a history in that city

 

[stealth]

Just heard that the Ownership group in Vegas has brought Gretzky on.

A guy whose wife placed bets on NHL games.



That'll surely quell the concerns about undue influence on NHL games by bookies.

gretzky brings a financial dark cloud wherever he goes

 

[Sgt Brutus]

gretzky fucked phx pretty well

 

[DevilishWon]

at the moment vegas wont work like Daly said the fan base has to be developed but seattle could easily developed theirs.....professional hockey has a history in that city

But Seattle sucks

 

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Owners say NHL expansion fee for Las Vegas franchise should eclipse $450 million - Article - TSN

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Owners say NHL expansion fee for Las Vegas franchise should eclipse $450 million - Article - TSN

Seems low. Wang got $485 million for the Isles.

 

[elocomotive]

Owners say NHL expansion fee for Las Vegas franchise should eclipse $450 million - Article - TSN

That seems crazy. They are going to financially handcuff that organization before they even get off the ground.

The franchise fee shouldn't vastly exceed the valuation of the company, which it likely would in this case.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

That seems crazy. They are going to financially handcuff that organization before they even get off the ground.

The franchise fee shouldn't vastly exceed the valuation of the company, which it likely would in this case.

If a half-billion dollar franchise fee is too much for the location these days, YOU'RE IN THE WRONG LOCATION!

 

[DevilishWon]

Owners say NHL expansion fee for Las Vegas franchise should eclipse $450 million - Article - TSN

Vegas here we come

 

[forty_three]

That seems crazy. They are going to financially handcuff that organization before they even get off the ground.

Either that or the owners think it's a bad idea and tried to come up with a number that makes it a bad idea.

I mean, solidifies that its a bad idea.

 

[detroit_schlegs]

The present NHL seems to be alive and well; let's just leave it well enough alone, shall we?

 

[DevilishWon]

The present NHL seems to be alive and well; let's just leave it well enough alone, shall we?

THAT will not happen