Gruden is an asshole

[deanpet21]

About as well as the guys we replaced them with.

RJF is out of the league. lol

 

[Sharkinva]

RJF is out of the league. lol

And yet the McBoys as you refer to them as, still havent really out performed him.

 

[Sharkinva]

RJF is out of the league. lol

And actually he is on the Patriots roster... But lets not let fact stand in the way of your reality Dean.

 

[deanpet21]

And yet the McBoys as you refer to them as, still havent really out performed him.

You forget McClains sack last week? That was pretty big. MCgee has had some moments. No one expected these guys to dominate.

 

[deanpet21]

And actually he is on the Patriots roster... But lets not let fact stand in the way of your reality Dean.

he must of just gotten picked up. He has been released from two teams already.

 

[Sharkinva]

You forget McClains sack last week? That was pretty big. MCgee has had some moments. No one expected these guys to dominate.

YOu did... I would not be shocked if you got a Big Mac tramp stamp this past off season.

 

[deanpet21]

YOu did... I would not be shocked if you got a Big Mac tramp stamp this past off season.

lol. I never said dominated. I said they would be better than Baker and RJF and they are.

 

[Sharkinva]

lol. I never said dominated. I said they would be better than Baker and RJF and they are.

BArely if at all. You talked these guys up as if they were future hall of famers. Destined for greatness and major upgrades over what we had.

 

[deanpet21]

BArely if at all. You talked these guys up as if they were future hall of famers. Destined for greatness and major upgrades over what we had.

Not major upgrades but upgrades. Baker has been a colossal bust. RJF has bee released twice. The Mcguys are better and have more upside. With Allen and Ion out they have to play more.

 

[Sharkinva]

Not major upgrades but upgrades. Baker has been a colossal bust. RJF has bee released twice. The Mcguys are better and have more upside. With Allen and Ion out they have to play more.

Baker was a starter for us and did well. Your precious Mcboys are backups pressed into starting. Younger versions of Ziggy Hood.. minus the 1st round draft status.

 

[deanpet21]

Baker was a starter for us and did well. Your precious Mcboys are backups pressed into starting. Younger versions of Ziggy Hood.. minus the 1st round draft status.

Baker was an average player on a bad dline. Mcboys are playing better this year. you cant argue that.

 

[Sharkinva]

Baker was an average player on a bad dline. Mcboys are playing better this year. you cant argue that.

ON what planet do you live Dean?? Since Allen and Ion went out, with the McBoys playing our defense has gotten run over more than a blind possum on LSD. We have had no real pass rush, and for fuck sake we didnt get a single sack on Case Keenum.

 

[deanpet21]

ON what planet do you live Dean?? Since Allen and Ion went out, with the McBoys playing our defense has gotten run over more than a blind possum on LSD. We have had no real pass rush, and for fuck sake we didnt get a single sack on Case Keenum.

MClain made one of the biggest plays on Wilson last week with that sack. Yes they were crap yesterday but you cant argue Baker and RJF are better. That is insane. The pass rush supposed to come from the OLb's. The Mcboys are upgrades over Baker and RJF. Simple as that.

 

[Sharkinva]

MClain made one of the biggest plays on Wilson last week with that sack. Yes they were crap yesterday but you cant argue Baker and RJF are better. That is insane. The pass rush supposed to come from the OLb's. The Mcboys are upgrades over Baker and RJF. Simple as that.

Thats the thing Dean.. Im not saying Baker and RJF are better. Just that the McBoys have been a colossal disappointment save for ONE sack in the Seattle game. Given the choice I would have kept Baker because he was a Redskin, and at some point this team needs to show LOYALTY to the players we brought in to the NFL. I know you are all about that mercenary life and free agency and the shiny new draft pick trumps all. But the real good teams are not the ones flipping rosters every two years while they watch the players they let go do well or even just average else where.

 

[deanpet21]

Thats the thing Dean.. Im not saying Baker and RJF are better. Just that the McBoys have been a colossal disappointment save for ONE sack in the Seattle game. Given the choice I would have kept Baker because he was a Redskin, and at some point this team needs to show LOYALTY to the players we brought in to the NFL. I know you are all about that mercenary life and free agency and the shiny new draft pick trumps all. But the real good teams are not the ones flipping rosters every two years while they watch the players they let go do well or even just average else where.

They have been average but they have upside. They knew Baker wasn't the player that these two guys were so they let him go. Allen was right about RJF. It still an upgrade not a huge upgrade but an upgrade. That is how you have to look at it.

 

[Sharkinva]

They have been average but they have upside. They knew Baker wasn't the player that these two guys were so they let him go. Allen was right about RJF. It still an upgrade not a huge upgrade but an upgrade. That is how you have to look at it.

Dean.. .for all their upside combined they have exactly 7 more tackles than Baker has on his own.

So we got two guys who have accounted for exactly 7 more tackles and even at a stretch have 2 sacks to Bakers 20 tackles. Massive upgrade there.

 

[deanpet21]

Dean.. .for all their upside combined they have exactly 7 more tackles than Baker has on his own.

So we got two guys who have accounted for exactly 7 more tackles and even at a stretch have 2 sacks to Bakers 20 tackles. Massive upgrade there.

still an upgrade. Tomsula saw something in these two guys. Could they be better absolutely.

 

[Sharkinva]

still an upgrade. Tomsula saw something in these two guys. Could they be better absolutely.

More like bruce saw something in these guys and RJF made the mistake of speaking against da fuhrer.

 

[deanpet21]

More like bruce saw something in these guys and RJF made the mistake of speaking against da fuhrer.

lol. Tomsula had some input. RJF is a talent issue. He got released by two teams.

 

[chillerdab]

If you can't see how the "McBoys" are a gigantic upgrade from RJF and Baker, sharkinva, than you're a fucking moron.

It's night and day.

Check out last year's run stats, dumby, then get back to me when you're ready to apologize for being a clown.