the mixon video

[cincygrad]

I agree that the video would be an issue which doesn't normally occur in the other cases.

 

[Tubbs1518]

Do you keep up with the news? There are physical and sexual assaults of women at all campuses - And some of our prestigious universities have some of the biggest issues..... You think all these kids are getting tossed out of school?

The kid at what was it Stanford not long ago that got in no trouble for raping a girl?

 

[Tubbs1518]

Pretty anecdotal.

Without knowing the extent of the girls's injury, or if the assault was filmed, I'm not sure if there's much comparison.

The cops saw a cell phone video. All I know was they took her out in an ambulance. I don't know the exact details.

 

[cincygrad]

The kid at what was it Stanford not long ago that got in no trouble for raping a girl?

That's what I'm saying.... Lots of well-off kids getting off the hook for some pretty serious shit.

 

[cincygrad]

 

[futballiscool]

I can tell you, a normal student doesn't have to deal with nearly as much. I knew a guy who was friends with my roomate at college who decked a girl at a frat party. He got put on probation and academic probation. That was it.

Someone in my freshman dorm punched his GF for cheating on him.
I can't say I remember his exact punishment but there wasn't a prison sentence. If culturally we're headed in a direction of less tolerance for that type of behavior, that's great. I'm in favor of it.

But years later people deserve to go on with their lives. I can't imagine this was a pleasant week for the girl in the video either. For what it's worth, they've talked, and she forgave him.

Beyond the football aspect of the story I hope he can lead a productive adult life.

 

[ckhokie]

The kid at what was it Stanford not long ago that got in no trouble for raping a girl?

No trouble?

Yeah he got off easy for RAPING an unconscious woman (much worse than punching one, IMO), but did get kicked out of school, went to jail (for a far too short amount of time), paid a pretty fat fine, and is now a registered sex offender.

'no trouble?' These things aren't even relatable, but yeah, you can and should get kicked out of school for something like that.

I suppose we can listen to more stories about what a guys friend's brother's frat buddies did at NKU.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Yeah he got off easy for RAPING an unconscious woman (much worse than punching one, IMO), but did get kicked out of school, went to jail (for a far too short amount of time), paid a pretty fat fine, and is now a registered sex offender.

All true, plus three years probation.

But, you know, Mixon got fewer millions when he was drafted, so he has it worse.

 

[futballiscool]

All true, plus three years probation.

But, you know, Mixon got fewer millions when he was drafted, so he has it worse.

What do you think is a fair punishment for Mixon?

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

What do you think is a fair punishment for Mixon?

You know, that's a great question, and one I haven't thought about, but I'll give it a try.

First, I'd like to give my read on the video. The broad walks into the shop, visibly agitated and seems like she has gone into the store to decompress from whatever just happened outside. Mixon walks in and his body language clearly demonstrates that he came for confrontation. He goes over to the table and appears to square off against her friend in skinny jeans. I've read that at that point Mixon calls the dude in skinny jeans a faggot. That's the point where she stands up to push him away, he lunges at her, she takes a half-hearted smack at him and he absolutely levels her and then calmly walks out.

The big thing for me is that after whatever transpired outside, she removed herself from the situation and went into the shop almost as a refuge. He followed her in there to confront her, which he admitted in the police report. From a primal perspective, he'd cornered her.

From the University's standpoint, I think he should have been expelled. I know that if I was paying to send my children there, particularly a daughter, or if I was an alumnus that's what I'd want. It a violent and particularly ugly representation of the school that shouldn't be tolerated. I assume that if the AD and school president knew the video would be made public, they'd have done more than they did; then again, maybe not because he's good at running with a football.

From a legal standpoint, I don't really know. I'm not a lawyer, judge nor do I know much about law enforcement. I did read a little about Oklahoma law as it pertains to assault and battery, and there are extra measures of punishment for special victims (law enforcement, paramedics, etc, which she doesn't qualify for), as well as for the amount of damage done (which I think this does qualify). She didn't have a black eye, a bruise or a sore jaw. The side of her face was literally broken.

I don't know exactly what punishment I'd want, but community service and a scholarship just doesn't feel right.

 

[BurrowDeep2Chase]

This is complete revisionist history.

He was a 27 year old perennial probowl player who was coming off of a down year. Another bad season and it's a trend and maybe his career is in jeopardy.

He was suspended until 11/28/14. So if someone was going to gamble on him it would be a 28 year old, who didn't play an entire season after having a major down season where he averaged 3.1 Y/A on 214 attempts.

 

[futballiscool]

He was suspended until 11/28/14. So if someone was going to gamble on him it would be a 28 year old, who didn't play an entire season after having a major down season where he averaged 3.1 Y/A on 214 attempts.

He was 27 at that time. His last down of football was at 26.
If it's not related to the domestic violence case than a probowl running back having one down year at 26 yrs old and never playing another down of football is a strange career trajectory. I've never seen with another player.

Also he attributed the down year to injury.
Ray Rice regrets playing for Ravens through hip injury

 

[Cincyfan78]

He was 27 at that time. His last down of football was at 26.
If it's not related to the domestic violence case than a probowl running back having one down year at 26 yrs old and never playing another down of football is a strange career trajectory. I've never seen with another player.

Also he attributed the down year to injury.
Ray Rice regrets playing for Ravens through hip injury

I'll admit...I thought he was older when this went down. I have to agree, now, that it is weird that he never got another chance considering he wasn't that old, and just one down year. However, maybe you could argue that teams were scared off by his high usage early on his career.

I might be a little off, but from his second season to near his last, he was one of the most used RB's in the NFL (rushes/catches/touches). The wear and tear on that body had to have been significant. Maybe teams thought he was done, or at least close enough to done, that at 27/28 coming off a suspension, a bad year, and injuries....he simply wasn't worth it. Maybe they knew about the hip and thought it wasn't worth the risk adding in the PR issues?

I agree, though, going to be hard to find a comparison on a career trajectory.

 

[BKBroiler9000]

It's May 2nd, and this thread is 5 pages long.

Can't wait for it to reach 30 by training camp.

 

[BKBroiler9000]

Although, this is the most activity on this board in months. Leave it to the Bengals drafting a controversial player to bring everybody back to SportsHoopla.

 

[Ickey Shuffle]

Can't wait for it to reach 30 by training camp.

Or if he can even leapfrog Hill lol. Because he may be more talented than Hill, but it's the Bengals. Who played Domata Peko over superior talent constantly...

 

[CrashDavisSports]

You know, that's a great question, and one I haven't thought about, but I'll give it a try.

First, I'd like to give my read on the video. The broad walks into the shop, visibly agitated and seems like she has gone into the store to decompress from whatever just happened outside. Mixon walks in and his body language clearly demonstrates that he came for confrontation. He goes over to the table and appears to square off against her friend in skinny jeans. I've read that at that point Mixon calls the dude in skinny jeans a faggot. That's the point where she stands up to push him away, he lunges at her, she takes a half-hearted smack at him and he absolutely levels her and then calmly walks out.

The big thing for me is that after whatever transpired outside, she removed herself from the situation and went into the shop almost as a refuge. He followed her in there to confront her, which he admitted in the police report. From a primal perspective, he'd cornered her.

From the University's standpoint, I think he should have been expelled. I know that if I was paying to send my children there, particularly a daughter, or if I was an alumnus that's what I'd want. It a violent and particularly ugly representation of the school that shouldn't be tolerated. I assume that if the AD and school president knew the video would be made public, they'd have done more than they did; then again, maybe not because he's good at running with a football.

From a legal standpoint, I don't really know. I'm not a lawyer, judge nor do I know much about law enforcement. I did read a little about Oklahoma law as it pertains to assault and battery, and there are extra measures of punishment for special victims (law enforcement, paramedics, etc, which she doesn't qualify for), as well as for the amount of damage done (which I think this does qualify). She didn't have a black eye, a bruise or a sore jaw. The side of her face was literally broken.

I don't know exactly what punishment I'd want, but community service and a scholarship just doesn't feel right.

The entire first part of that is conjecture. You couldn't possibly know any of that. So you are basing his punishment off a totally fabricated point of view of the situation.

Looks just as likely the camera saw some chick walk in, she starts talking to someone at a table, say it is Mixon's friend, because that "guy" sitting at the table she approaches appears to be Mixon's friend to me (also conjecture), but once Mixon decks her, the guy sitting at the table walks out too. Who is to say that Mixon didn't just walk in, stand at the end of the table to converse with his friend, she says something to his friend, he makes some smart ass remark to her comment to his friend, and she gets pissed and gets her drunk ass self in a rage from the comment, and hauls off and hits Mixon and spits on him?

Mine is just as plausible don't you think?

If you are going to define a punishment for someone shouldn't you be aware of the entire situation first?

Jesus still loves you though.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

The entire first part of that is conjecture. You couldn't possibly know any of that. So you are basing his punishment off a totally fabricated point of view of the situation.

Looks just as likely the camera saw some chick walk in, she starts talking to someone at a table, say it is Mixon's friend, because that "guy" sitting at the table she approaches appears to be Mixon's friend to me (also conjecture), but once Mixon decks her, the guy sitting at the table walks out too. Who is to say that Mixon didn't just walk in, stand at the end of the table to converse with his friend, she says something to his friend, he makes some smart ass remark to her comment to his friend, and she gets pissed and gets her drunk ass self in a rage from the comment, and hauls off and hits Mixon and spits on him?

Mine is just as plausible don't you think?

If you are going to define a punishment for someone shouldn't you be aware of the entire situation first?

Jesus still loves you though.

It's not conjecture. He said in the police report that he went into the shop to confront the broad.

Also, if that's your read on the video, you suck at interpreting body language.

It's cool, though. I actually look forward to having someone take the torch from various OU fans to defend a dude that would do that to a chick.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

Once again, I am not condoning what he did. He is obviously a very strong guy, and needs to understand that he can't be laying his hands on a woman like that because he is likely to hurt her badly.

However, even if he did follow her into the coffee shop, and he is starting shit, do you think it is smart of a woman to hit and spit on a guy that is as big as Mixon? Did she expect him to stand there and take his beating from a woman? Mixon should have never hit her, and maybe he shouldn't have followed her into that place, but irregardless, she started the physical altercation, don't you think?

What responsibility is she awarded for this altercation?

Let's say Mixon did everything that was said, because I have not read the police report. Some people don't walk away from arguments very easy and want to continue, perhaps Mixon followed and continued the argument. Should she have started a physical altercation with a guy the size of Mixon? What should Mixon's response of been when she started hitting him and spitting on him? Walk away? Perhaps. But if you are already mad, and you have been fighting with this person, and you are frustrated, and then they haul off and hit you and spit on you. I can see how it is easy to black out for a second and just react. The second he did it, I am sure he regretted it, but you can't travel back in time and change things, otherwise, all of us would have things we would like to go back in time and change. Even you I am sure.

Mixon should have just walked away instead of walking in that shop, but he didn't. He did what he did. He can only move on and try to be a better person. It is going to be hard for the young man to move on and become a good citizen if people keep dragging him back into the mud. Granted, you don't want him to forget, but you don't want to bury him either. Let him bury himself with his ongoing actions if he is going to, or hopefully he has some redeeming choices and things he does to improve his life and others (away from football).

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Mixon should have just walked away instead of walking in that shop, but he didn't.