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2024 New England Patriots - News and Rumors

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Patriots signed former Steelers DT Armon Watts.
Watts started his career in Minnesota, playing three years for the Vikings, before one-year stints with the Bears and Steelers. He has managed 22 starts across 75 appearances in five seasons in the league and should begin his time in New England as a rotational players in sub-packages.
 

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They had a couple of California players on the tube around 2:00 am EST and they both said that they would not play in the North. Some of those guy are just plain stupid. One said, "I can't understand why anyone would want to spend their lives in a constant snow storm, freezing to death."

From listening to them, I swear that they think it's freezing cold year round.

Their agents are probably pushing them away from the Mass. "Millionaires Tax" now that it's in place. That tax is on gross income and not on income after exemptions and write offs.

It won't be long before Boston loses all of it's professional sports teams.
 

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RUMOR....................

Patriots have talked to the Bengals and 49ers.

Bengals initially asked teams for a first round pick for WR Tee Higgins. Nope. Now they're asking for a 2nd round pick and the Patriots are still talking and it's believed that they are offering a 3rd rounder. Problem for the Patriots is that he's in the final year of his contract and will probably not be willing to sign an extension unless it's near $30M per.

49ers don't have the cash to keep the entire team together and Brandon Aiyuk is available. Again, another WR who is in the final year of his contract, but might be more approachable.

Don't expct to hear much until the draft on either.
 

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Patriots have $50M of their cap space remaining. Wolfe is talking to Kraft about rolling over some of it to 2025 which the league allows. They have to set aside money to pay for the drafted players.

IMO, rolling over money and not signing quality veterans will put the Patriots at the bottom of the AFCE again in 2024 and no one knows what 2025 will bring. Another Covid? World War? Depression?

If Wolfe is trying to save his ass at the expense of the team, it might be time to start looking elsewhere for a GM.
 

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Patriots have $50M of their cap space remaining. Wolfe is talking to Kraft about rolling over some of it to 2025 which the league allows. They have to set aside money to pay for the drafted players.

IMO, rolling over money and not signing quality veterans will put the Patriots at the bottom of the AFCE again in 2024 and no one knows what 2025 will bring. Another Covid? World War? Depression?

If Wolfe is trying to save his ass at the expense of the team, it might be time to start looking elsewhere for a GM.
Again, Mayo stated not all the cap money needs to be spend in one year. Perhaps they are looking to next year FA, and as stated building through the draft. Anyone that thinks the Pats were turning into legit contenders this year are delusional. Keep a reasonable cap for rookies, potential vets this year and next makes a lot of sense to me.
 

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4/$92M $50M guaranteed.

Warmer than Foxboro, no state income tax. Patriots would had to offer $100M+ and build a domed stadium.
Hey dude. I know you have a lot of hatred for Boston now that you have moved to Florida but you are getting carried away.
I'm trying to keep track. You hate Boston, Wolfe, our signings, WTF?
Get less negative or get counseling!

(I mean that in a loving way)
 

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If Wolfe is trying to save his ass at the expense of the team, it might be time to start looking elsewhere for a GM.

Jesus Christ dude. Where the hell do you get this anger towards the Patriots from?

You've literally put Wolfe and Mayo in the exact same crosshairs you had Bill Belichick in and haven't even given them a chance to field a team yet.

Wolfe is known for his building through the draft. Maybe we should see how the fucking draft goes?

So far, I'm happy with nearly all their moves.
 

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I don't hate Boston. I certainly don't like the Mass. Legislature.

You all want to wait until the draft? Please tell me how well Elliot Wolfe has previously drafted? His Father was great at it. Name a single team Elliot has built through the draft.

Please show me one statement I've made placing Mayo in my crosshairs.

I haven't shown any anger, yet, against the Patriots. I'm upset that Wolfe is watching every top free agent go elsewhere and not doing anything for the Patriots other than resigning Patriot players. Tyler Boyd is supposedly talking to the Chiefs, Steelers and Jets. Jonah Williams signed a three year $30M deal with the Cardinals. Wolfe couldn't have moved in and offered $12M a year to a starting LT???

Yeah, lets put aside $35M for 2025 and hope that Wolfe will be in the driver's seat for top free agents to fill the holes that will need filling. Or we can roll it over for 2026 and let him continue to build through the draft.
 

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I don't hate Boston. I certainly don't like the Mass. Legislature.

You all want to wait until the draft? Please tell me how well Elliot Wolfe has previously drafted? His Father was great at it. Name a single team Elliot has built through the draft.

Please show me one statement I've made placing Mayo in my crosshairs.

I haven't shown any anger, yet, against the Patriots. I'm upset that Wolfe is watching every top free agent go elsewhere and not doing anything for the Patriots other than resigning Patriot players. Tyler Boyd is supposedly talking to the Chiefs, Steelers and Jets. Jonah Williams signed a three year $30M deal with the Cardinals. Wolfe couldn't have moved in and offered $12M a year to a starting LT???

Yeah, lets put aside $35M for 2025 and hope that Wolfe will be in the driver's seat for top free agents to fill the holes that will need filling. Or we can roll it over for 2026 and let him continue to build through the draft.
Whether or not you see yourself this way makes no difference, but you come off as a spoiled Pats fan that feels as if the only way to win back your loyalty is to do things the way you think they should be done. You honestly, perhaps inadvertently do come off like that. Wolfe is retaining players he see's as contributors. We will have to see how he works the draft, but I would not expect to see this team near the top for two maybe three years.
 

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I would not expect to see this team near the top for two maybe three years.
Why can't this team be just like the Texans?

3-12-1 in 2022

Huge turn around and playoffs in 2023.

Same circumstances. They had a new coach in 2023 and the GM was finally free of Easterby. Had some cap space. Patriots have the same opportunities and new people and cap space.

I'll be happy if they are 8-9. Right now they seem to be looking at 5-12 or 6-11 unless the owners go to 18 games.
 

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Why can't this team be just like the Texans?

3-12-1 in 2022

Huge turn around and playoffs in 2023.

Same circumstances. They had a new coach in 2023 and the GM was finally free of Easterby. Had some cap space. Patriots have the same opportunities and new people and cap space.

I'll be happy if they are 8-9. Right now they seem to be looking at 5-12 or 6-11 unless the owners go to 18 games.
So your hedging you bets on an anomaly? NFL turn arounds do happen in one year from time to time but that is not the norm. The fact you even bring that up only makes my poiint.
 

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Why can't this team be just like the Texans?

3-12-1 in 2022

Huge turn around and playoffs in 2023.

Same circumstances. They had a new coach in 2023 and the GM was finally free of Easterby. Had some cap space. Patriots have the same opportunities and new people and cap space.

I'll be happy if they are 8-9. Right now they seem to be looking at 5-12 or 6-11 unless the owners go to 18 games.

So your hedging you bets on an anomaly? NFL turn arounds do happen in one year from time to time but that is not the norm. The fact you even bring that up only makes my poiint.
Add in that coming off an terrible season grants an easier schedule the following season. How'd the Texans do in the playoffs?

I won't take anything away from the Texans, they had a great season "for them". But let's not overstate how good it was either. They aren't the new standard.
 

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Why can't this team be just like the Texans?

3-12-1 in 2022

Huge turn around and playoffs in 2023.

Same circumstances. They had a new coach in 2023 and the GM was finally free of Easterby. Had some cap space. Patriots have the same opportunities and new people and cap space.

I'll be happy if they are 8-9. Right now they seem to be looking at 5-12 or 6-11 unless the owners go to 18 games.

Not even similar circumstances. The Pats do not have a Deshaun Watson to trade. The Pats have not been in rebuild mode with early round picks for the last decade. The Texans made a solid choice with their #2 pick so kudo's to them on that. The Pats can do that too with #3 but you've already buried them before the draft.
 

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Not even similar circumstances. The Pats do not have a Deshaun Watson to trade. The Pats have not been in rebuild mode with early round picks for the last two decades. The Texans made a solid choice with their #2 pick so kudo's to them on that. The Pats can do that too with #3 but you've already buried them before the draft.
FIFY

Even that was just one year near the bottom and not at it. It's really prior to the arrival of Bledsoe, Parcels and Kraft.
 
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