Cardinals eyeing a trade for Alex Smith

[northeastphillyguy]

Alex has always been under rated in my opinion. He is capable of leading his next team.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

I think Smith is 8-12 in QBs personally. Based on preference.

And four of the guys ahead of him are old or on IR.

Or recently retired. Don’t forget about your high regard for Palmer.

 

[Groo]

I would hate to see Smith playing for the Cards

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

I think he is the best veteran guy available

 

[broncosmitty]

Or recently retired. Don’t forget about your high regard for Palmer.

NFL lost its biggest fuckface.

That conversation must've been just weeks after you joined. Which was entire months after I did.

Way back when...

 

[rmilia1]

Arizona would have won the division this year if Alex Smith was their QB

 

[rmilia1]

Any team currently in the market for a QB would be making a massive upgrade by adding Smith. If you want to blame him for pkayoff losses where his teams scored 27 PPG I think you're making a mistake . Guy has done nothing but win for 6 straight years now.

 

[soxfan1468927]

Any team currently in the market for a QB would be making a massive upgrade by adding Smith. If you want to blame him for pkayoff losses where his teams scored 27 PPG I think you're making a mistake . Guy has done nothing but win for 6 straight years now.

4 out the 5 playoff losses they scored 21 or fewer. Averaged 26 points per game, not 27, but they actually scored that many 3 times and went 2-1 in those games. The only loss that they scored enough that they should have won was the game against Indy. The others they lost 20-17, 27-20 (in New England), 18-16, and 22-21.

 

[rmilia1]

4 out the 5 playoff losses they scored 21 or fewer. Averaged 26 points per game, not 27, but they actually scored that many 3 times and went 2-1 in those games. The only loss that they scored enough that they should have won was the game against Indy. The others they lost 20-17, 27-20 (in New England), 18-16, and 22-21.

Sure and they should've won 2 of those games but didn't . Not because of anything Smith related . Not every win and loss is attributed to the QB

 

[Pattersonca65]

Arizona would have won the division this year if Alex Smith was their QB

I think you are overrating Smith. He is a good QB, but saying AZ would have won the division is a bit far. Smith has done well when surrounded by good talent on offense but struggles to elevate play around him. Without a good RB and good pass protection, AZ would not have won the division with ASmith.

 

[rmilia1]

I think you are overrating Smith. He is a good QB, but saying AZ would have won the division is a bit far. Smith has done well when surrounded by good talent on offense but struggles to elevate play around him. Without a good RB and good pass protection, AZ would not have won the division with ASmith.

AZ went 8-8 with steaming horseshit at QB. Thinking they win 11 by adding Smith is not crazy . In fact it's not even a stretch

 

[shopson67]

AZ went 8-8 with steaming horseshit at QB. Thinking they win 11 by adding Smith is not crazy . In fact it's not even a stretch

Assuming

IMO, the only teams that really makes sense (paying the trade price, and the cap hit price) to trade for A Smith would be DEN #1, they are built to win with his skill set. AZ #2...maybe a little further away from a title even with Smith, but add David Johnson, and Fitz back in the fold with those DEF pcs...it's a 10 win team with Smith as the triggerman.

Bills could make some sense as well, as a bridge to whomever they draft to replace Tyrod this spring.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

AZ went 8-8 with steaming horseshit at QB. Thinking they win 11 by adding Smith is not crazy . In fact it's not even a stretch

Not unfair, and lets not forget they will be adding one of the best RB's on the planet next season

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

IMO, the only teams that really makes sense (paying the trade price, and the cap hit price) to trade for A Smith would be DEN #1, they are built to win with his skill set. AZ #2...maybe a little further away from a title even with Smith, but add David Johnson, and Fitz back in the fold with those DEF pcs...it's a 10 win team with Smith as the triggerman.

I assume you exclude Jacksonville because of the cap situation?

Cause to me, thats makes the most sense out of all the teams for Alex Smith

 

[Scooby-Doo]

Not unfair, and lets not forget they will be adding one of the best RB's on the planet next season

Johnson could have come back around Christmas. It was smart to keep him out for the year.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Johnson could have come back around Christmas. It was smart to keep him out for the year.

No Doubt, and complete domination isnt out of the question, considering it was his wrist, and not a lower body injury........

They really need to figure out a way not to waste his prime, especially if Fitz walks away....That front office has work to do

 

[Scooby-Doo]

No Doubt, and complete domination isnt out of the question, considering it was his wrist, and not a lower body injury........

They really need to figure out a way not to waste his prime, especially if Fitz walks away....That front office has work to do

Keim has done a damn good job as GM. This off season is by far his toughest challenge.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Why would Cards fans hate this? Smith is fine until you groom the next QB. This QB class sucks monkey butt and you're drafting late enough anyway it wont matter. Lamar Jackson also looked like a complete pleb in his loss.

Just don't hang onto Smith and ignore picking up a successor until he's 38...

Cards also have a great running game with Johnson (who will hopefully return healthy) and that acquisition would likely make Fitzgerald stick around. Draft a wideout to keep up when Fitz does actually retire and compete for the division.

 

[MHSL82]

You and me both. The Cards got Warner at age 33 so fans are acting like "why not Smith"? It's silly.

Warner played his best on the biggest stages, Smith is just the opposite.

I see Smith as a guy that can look good until the bright lights are on him. Sure he can bridge the gap, but they aren't making a deep playoff push with him. Maybe I am wrong. I just assume you tank for a year or two and stock pile some high draft picks. Give the new coach, whoever that may be, a clean slate.

Most people here seem to think it makes sense. Maybe it does. Who knows.

Doing it for 3-4 games straight is the issue. He's played some of his best football under the bright lights:

Home against the Saints: Scored twice in the last four minutes by rushing bootleg TD and passing TD to Vernon Davis at the end. Saints scored a quick TD in between.
Road against the Colts: 378 Yards, 4 TDs, 0 INTs, a bunch of rushing yards, too.
Home against the Titans: First half - 19/23, 231 Yards, 2 TDs, 0 INTs.
Road against the bad Texans: 30-0. Didn't need him.

The games he has lost:
Indy above. 1 Point - 45-44. Defense gave up 28 point lead - yes, on the offense, too. Everyone got injured that game - two runningbacks, a few defensive players, etc.
NYG champions: 3 Points. Two muffed punts in the 4th and Overtime. 20-17.
Titans: 1 Point loss. Second half was between long burning drives, drops, etc. Still his fault, but others were there, too - including not using the number 1 runningback statistically.
Steelers: 2 Point loss.
New England: 7 Point loss.

Too many losses to have confidence that he'd win 3 or 4 in a row. But just like some others in history, it's happened. Any one of those games just needs one play.

A better QB would help, too. But that's not the question.

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

I think this would be a good move for the Cards.
A) They should have David Johnson back healthy which was their biggest loss, imo.
B) Smith is very capable whether you think he can win the "big game" or not and his mobility is something the Cards were missing with Palmer.
C) They will likely be drafting a QB late and that will require time to get him NFL ready. Smith is a good choice as a veteran that can keep the ship afloat and the kid can learn a few things watching.
D) A solid vet like Smith might be enough to convince Fitz to stay around awhile.
I don't see much of a downside other than his salary.