Su'a Cravens

[ehb5]

Yes, I remember hearing "we want football players, guys who love football", it's looking like we drafted a couple who doesn't

It's almost like the draft is a crapshoot

 

[ehb5]

Sucks about sua. Hope he figures it out and hope the team and org helps him out along the way.

At this point I'm gonna expect him not to stick around. If he wants to do something good for him. If he comes back, cool.

 

[gkekoa]

For as much as I want to agree with this ^^^^^the other side of the coin unfortunately will be, no football beyond the 2020 season.

I disagree with this. The players have no other options. The owners do.

 

[Sportster 72]

Fellas, This all falls directly on Bruce Allen and here's why:

1. You don't blame the player for being drafted.

2. Even if Bruce followed SM's board to a tee, unless he's a mindless twit, and that's debatable, he still had to make the decision to do it when the time came.

3. A pure speculative statement follows: True GM's always talk to their guys, listening to concerns, gauging progress towards recovery, doing logistical work in terms of family ticketing etc....etc...etc. So this should NOT have been a surprise to the organization, especially at cut down and setting up PS time. I'm not saying that Bruce didn't do his GM work (again pure speculation on my part) but the timing suggests that his attention was elsewhere. (Maybe more concerns with team President duties??)

I do not know why a lot of you guys put the blame solely on Allen. The FO (Allen and Snyder) got upset with Scot last year at the end of the season when we heard Cravens had some sort of tear, then it was a bruise. He wasn't around so that nullifies point No. 3 there. I am not supporting Allen but I am for assigning blame when it is deserved. I don't see why a guy who has lost 4 jobs is being crowned king.

 

[Stymietee]

I do not know why a lot of you guys put the blame solely on Allen. The FO (Allen and Snyder) got upset with Scot last year at the end of the season when we heard Cravens had some sort of tear, then it was a bruise. He wasn't around so that nullifies point No. 3 there. I am not supporting Allen but I am for assigning blame when it is deserved. I don't see why a guy who has lost 4 jobs is being crowned king.

Interesting that a completely and openly stated opinion can be nullified by another opinion that's completely off base. At what point was or has Bruce NOT been around? Clearly I was referring to him and NOT Scot in point #3.

 

[Sportster 72]

Fellas, This all falls directly on Bruce Allen and here's why:

1. You don't blame the player for being drafted.

2. Even if Bruce followed SM's board to a tee, unless he's a mindless twit, and that's debatable, he still had to make the decision to do it when the time came.

3. A pure speculative statement follows: True GM's always talk to their guys, listening to concerns, gauging progress towards recovery, doing logistical work in terms of family ticketing etc....etc...etc. So this should NOT have been a surprise to the organization, especially at cut down and setting up PS time. I'm not saying that Bruce didn't do his GM work (again pure speculation on my part) but the timing suggests that his attention was elsewhere. (Maybe more concerns with team President duties??)

I'll go with your I am only speculating but not ignoring what your opening line was.

My point remains, we can all agree to some extent about Dan/Bruce. At the same time I see statements like yours or how Bruce screwed up the Cousin's contract when Scot was part of the screw up too. You want to bash Allen, have at it but it is time to stop saying Scot was GM of the year.

 

[Stymietee]

I'll go with your I am only speculating but not ignoring what your opening line was.

My point remains, we can all agree to some extent about Dan/Bruce. At the same time I see statements like yours or how Bruce screwed up the Cousin's contract when Scot was part of the screw up too. You want to bash Allen, have at it but it is time to stop saying Scot was GM of the year.

ONLY Bruce Allen apologists are saying anything close to SM was GM of the year........see what I did there?

BTW: which part of what I said wasn't true, beyond the speculative piece? Keep in mind we're solely talking about Cravens the original topic.

 

[Sportster 72]

ONLY Bruce Allen apologists are saying anything close to SM was GM of the year........see what I did there?

BTW: which part of what I said wasn't true, beyond the speculative piece? Keep in mind we're solely talking about Cravens the original topic.

LOL, I see how you SPUN that Sty. I can assure you I am not a BA apologist. I am not even a BA likigist. I am just not going to turn SM into the crown prince. I knew when SM came here based on his past issues it was going to be short term. In the beginning I hoped for 5 years. It did not last that long and I agree with whoever posted a few days ago that most of the biggest stars still here were Shanahan's picks. Now if you want to SPIN that you can say I said he was great a great personnel guy but his hit percentage was low.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

My issue with the SM firing was not actually firing him but the way that the situation was handled. You want to get rid of him - fine but do it in a professional manner & don't make shit up. Don't spew some BS about his dying grandmother & - oh yeah - label him as a drunk on the way out. I would also like to believe that they would replace SM with an actual GM w/ true power and not just some puppet (all signs point to this not being the case).

SM had a mixed bag in terms of his track record w/ the Redskins. However - some of this was just fluky (injury issues & the strange case of Cravens). Regardless of who is running the show let's hope that this team shows something in the next few weeks.

 

[deanpet21]

In a video on Snapchat, Redskins S Su'a Cravens said he decided to leave the team because he needs "to follow what makes me happy."

"I don’t feel like I need to explain myself. I don’t feel like I have to," Cravens said. "I need to follow what makes me happy, get my mental right, my well-being right, my family right." The comments do not necessarily mean he is done with football for good, but he certainly sounds done with it for now. Cravens was placed on the exempt/left squad list over the weekend.


Source: Washington Post
Sep 5 - 9:22 AM

NOt happy making millions. what an ass.

 

[j_y19]

In a video on Snapchat, Redskins S Su'a Cravens said he decided to leave the team because he needs "to follow what makes me happy."

"I don’t feel like I need to explain myself. I don’t feel like I have to," Cravens said. "I need to follow what makes me happy, get my mental right, my well-being right, my family right." The comments do not necessarily mean he is done with football for good, but he certainly sounds done with it for now. Cravens was placed on the exempt/left squad list over the weekend.


Source: Washington Post
Sep 5 - 9:22 AM

NOt happy making millions. what an ass.

Really? you are sorely mistaken if you think money buys you happiness.

The reality is the guy has some issues. May be mental, emotional or physical. Probably a combination of all 3. My bet is he is not done. Especially when he realizes that if he quits, he owes the team back $1M in signing money. He probably doesn't have it. He also probably still owes his agent a big chunk. He probably can't afford to quit right now.

 

[Sportster 72]

Really? you are sorely mistaken if you think money buys you happiness.

The reality is the guy has some issues. May be mental, emotional or physical. Probably a combination of all 3. My bet is he is not done. Especially when he realizes that if he quits, he owes the team back $1M in signing money. He probably doesn't have it. He also probably still owes his agent a big chunk. He probably can't afford to quit right now.

I agree he is probably not done. I would be concerned about his desire though. Great football players want to be great from the time they are young.

 

[skinsdad62]

yeah , he might come back but reliability becomes and issue . once he is on the field he seems to have the goods and the passion . off the field particularly when injured he seems emotionally immature

 

[Sportster 72]

He is young, lets hope he has a little growing up to do.

 

[gkekoa]

Really? you are sorely mistaken if you think money buys you happiness.

The reality is the guy has some issues. May be mental, emotional or physical. Probably a combination of all 3. My bet is he is not done. Especially when he realizes that if he quits, he owes the team back $1M in signing money. He probably doesn't have it. He also probably still owes his agent a big chunk. He probably can't afford to quit right now.

Do they have to pay back the signing bonus?

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Do they have to pay back the signing bonus?

Retirement would cost Su’a Cravens more than $1 million

Yes. Bonus money is an advance & if a player decides to leave he is on the hook to repay the pending portion of the bonus. It is a different matter if the team cuts the player.

 

[ehb5]

In a video on Snapchat, Redskins S Su'a Cravens said he decided to leave the team because he needs "to follow what makes me happy."

"I don’t feel like I need to explain myself. I don’t feel like I have to," Cravens said. "I need to follow what makes me happy, get my mental right, my well-being right, my family right." The comments do not necessarily mean he is done with football for good, but he certainly sounds done with it for now. Cravens was placed on the exempt/left squad list over the weekend.


Source: Washington Post
Sep 5 - 9:22 AM

NOt happy making millions. what an ass.

He doesn't want the same things as you do so you call him in ass?

I'm thinking he might not be the ass here...

 

[Breed]

Maybe Cravens simply doesn't want to be a Washington Redskin.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Maybe Cravens simply doesn't want to be a Washington Redskin.

Well his Mom is a diehard Cowboys fan (& remained so after her son signed w/ the Skins - what a tool). If this is remotely true - fine - do whatever you can do to make sure that he can't play anywhere else for as long as possible.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Shark - I am beginning to think that you have this strange desire to see the Redskins fail. Most of your posts are pretty negative & you seem to like other posters who have anything negative to say about the Skins. Granted Snyder & Allen do things that piss many of us off at times. Still - at the end of the day - I would hope that all fans want to see the team succeed regardless of who is running the show.

Please tell me that I am wrong.