Worst organizations at developing starting pitchers

[kburjr]

Brewers in a landslide.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

Johan Santana, Brad Radke...I guess Jim Kaat was more than 50 years ago. I'd have to think about it. But I've followed the Phillies for years and all I've got is Hamels, Nola, I guess Ruthven was a good No.2-3 starter and a bunch of marginal number 5 starters (speaking of which, Charles Hudson, Randy Lerch)

Santana was obviously great but that’s about it. I’d take Brad Radkes any day but that isn’t a sign you can develop pitching unless you’re getting 15 of those guys.

We’ve had nothing for a decade. When we cranked out division titles we relied on the likes of Scott Baker. It’s been bad

Shit, Berríos has yet to develop

 

[Chewbaccer]

Yankees aren’t the worst, but you’d think they’d have more in the way of home grown starting pitching.

 

[Gopherfan84]

Johan Santana, Brad Radke...I guess Jim Kaat was more than 50 years ago. I'd have to think about it. But I've followed the Phillies for years and all I've got is Hamels, Nola, I guess Ruthven was a good No.2-3 starter and a bunch of marginal number 5 starters (speaking of which, Charles Hudson, Randy Lerch)

We'll have to give you Radke, but Santana was a Rule 5 pick up from Houston so most of his development was done there. We just sent him down to the minors for a couple of months to perfect his change-up.

 

[YourFriendGannon]

Brewers in a landslide.

And in terms of the futility of a general manager's charge, Doug Melvin has gotta be up there. In the 2+ decades that Melvin was a GM, there were like 2 good starting pitchers to come out of his team's farm systems.

 

[Mistaken4193]

I don’t think the Braves are the best at it. Name 1 pitcher post Glavine/Smoltz we have developed and has become a true ace? Soroka May be the 1st.

 

[Cedrique]

I'd argue that Myers and Happ were at least adequate. Kevin Gross and Randy Wolf weren't great, but they weren't atrocious. Ryan Madson wouldn't hit the starter qualifier, but he was a pitcher the Phillies had from the minors on up, and he was an effective pitcher at multiple stops.

I forgot about Randy Wolf and Happ. Definitely legit middle of the rotation major league pitchers. And I guess I blocked out the time period in the mid to late 80's when we had that home grown rotation of Gross, Ruffin, Don Carman, Marvin Freeman. But man, those were some bad teams.

 

[Cedrique]

Yankees aren’t the worst, but you’d think they’d have more in the way of home grown starting pitching.

Yeah, it could be that they make so many big free agent signings that they never have the good draft picks or they trade a lot of prospects in deadline deals. They did make that great 1st overall selection of Brien Taylor that one year........

 

[Cedrique]

Brewers in a landslide.

Wow, you could be right. They did develop Moose Haas, but that was 40 years ago.

 

[Cedrique]

I don’t think the Braves are the best at it. Name 1 pitcher post Glavine/Smoltz we have developed and has become a true ace? Soroka May be the 1st.

Yeah, but I took them out of the running for worst because they seem to have enough mid rotation or serviceable guys to go with a couple aces. Steve Avery, Jason Schmidt, Tommy Greene had a couple good years. Julio Teheran is at least a good major leaguer.

 

[DayDrinkinginDurham]

Orioles, no doubt. Seemingly every pitching prospect they've traded immediately transform into top tier pitchers the minute they get out of Baltimore.

 

[Sir Robin Of Camelot]

Any list with this theme title that doesn’t include my little Rangers is an utterly bogus list. Not only do we not develop them, we insure over half of them have Tommy John surgery before they ever sniff the big.

 

[Cedrique]

Orioles, no doubt. Seemingly every pitching prospect they've traded immediately transform into top tier pitchers the minute they get out of Baltimore.

Yeah, I was giving them credit for some guys that probably went past my 50 year window. If you go back like 60 years they have had some very good starters. Palmer, Mussina, McNally, MacGregor. Schilling played most of his minor league ball in the Orioles system too, although he didn't really break out until after he was traded a couple times.

 

[Chewbaccer]

Orioles, no doubt. Seemingly every pitching prospect they've traded immediately transform into top tier pitchers the minute they get out of Baltimore.

I think that was mostly an Arrieta thing. Gausman and Chen still suck

 

[nynasty]

Yankees aren’t the worst, but you’d think they’d have more in the way of home grown starting pitching.

It was a long time between Andy Pettitte and Luis Severino is all I'm saying.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

At least that's one thing Detroit has done relatively well.

Minus the whole keeping them part. So....yea.

 

[Cedrique]

It was a long time between Andy Pettitte and Luis Severino is all I'm saying.

Guidry had a good run, but I guess it was a long time between him and Andy Pettitte...

 

[Chewbaccer]

Guidry had a good run, but I guess it was a long time between him and Andy Pettitte...

Long time between Whitey Ford and Guidry and a long time between Lefty Gomez and Whitey Ford too

 

[RobToxin]

Have the Rangers ever developed a starting pitcher since 1972?

 

[nynasty]

Guidry had a good run, but I guess it was a long time between him and Andy Pettitte...

After Guidry, we had Righetti. After Righetti? A vast wasteland of could be's and almost was's